Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[SharkBait]

#12 ToC:
Haikyuu!! (Cover & Lead CP)
Dr. Stone
One Piece
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Boku no Hero Academia
Yakusoku no Neverland (CP)
Hinomaru Zumou
Act-Age
Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
FANTASIES (Oneshot, CP)
Jimoto ga Japan
Jujutsu Kaisen
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Chainsawman
Shokugeki no Soma
Gokutei Higuma
ne0;lation
Shishunki Renaissance! David-kun

#13:
Cover & Lead CP: Dr. Stone
CP: Boruto, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Maken Kaji-shi Handago (Oneshot by Nakano Shinobu)

BLack Clover is missing?

 

[CuriousReborn]

#12 ToC:
Haikyuu!! (Cover & Lead CP)
Dr. Stone
One Piece
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Boku no Hero Academia
Yakusoku no Neverland (CP)
Hinomaru Zumou
Act-Age
Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
FANTASIES (Oneshot, CP)
Jimoto ga Japan
Jujutsu Kaisen
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Chainsawman
Shokugeki no Soma
Gokutei Higuma
ne0;lation
Shishunki Renaissance! David-kun

#13:
Cover & Lead CP: Dr. Stone
CP: Boruto, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Maken Kaji-shi Handago (Oneshot by Nakano Shinobu)

You forgot BC above Japan, also lol at the new series all at the bottom 5

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Japan out on April.
Lead seiyuu is Minami Takayama

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Geez I feel like im gonna keep updating as it goes on, next issue hiatus for MHA

 

[LuckyJim]

Bye Bye to both Higuma and Neo lation
Chainsaw man may be survived????????

It might survive this round, but after that it's pretty unlikely. Even if it's not at the very bottom, this low isn't a good sign, unless it can pull and Act-Age or something, but that was probably an exception.

 

[Tamil]

Not preferring their work =\= Getting bothered by an outsider. Nobody sane says they feel bothered by Boichi working in Jump. You're trying extremely hard to excuse his behavior.

How would you feel if I said I don't prefer Indian directors or actors working in Hollywood because it bothers me? Admittedly, it doesn't bother me when I see a Chinese or middle eastern actors but I get bothered by Indians. It's just a personal preference.

I told you multiple times that I like the idea of Japan being homogeneous as much as possible. I like their style of work/ethic/culture and want to preserve it as much as possible. It's a preference of mine. So when I see some French animator ofc its going to bother me a bit. You'd be surprised how many Japanese feel more or less the same way about me. I don't even feel this way only towards Japan either but most asian countries. I clearly stated this in my first post and it's very clear that I want this industry to keep its identity. (maybe you can say I said it in a mean way but idrc)

I dont want to see the manga industry to be infested with non-Japanese and/or non-asian artist.

That example isn't relevantly similar, very weak. America is far more diverse than India, India is much more homogeneous, similar to the likes Japan (there are more complexities but I'd digress). Which is why I like the bollywood analogy as it is relevantly similar to the Japanese animation scenario. It's part of their cultural identity so why would they want foreigners, especially far out of asia working on it? With indian films, on the rare occasion, If they want a foreigner they try getting one that's close to Asia as possible. Let me give you an example, I know for some upcoming south indian film, they are trying to get Bae Suzy (kpop/south korean actress) on board this indian film as a big role. It would be highly unlikely they would want some white or black actor/actresses. You can also bet that if she does end up playing that big role that some indians will complain that they didn't get another top indian actress to play that role. It's not like they hate koreans, they just want preserve their culture/identity as much as possible.

You can think of this mindset as a traditional way of thinking, but there's totally nothing wrong with wanting to preserve/protect an industry that's deeply rooted in said country's culture. With Japan it's animation/manga and India would be films/dramas/music(?). It's not poor wording on my end, everyone else here understand its not racism aside from you. Quit reaching so much to frame me as a racist.

 

[Franz]

Geez I feel like im gonna keep updating as it goes on, next issue hiatus for MHA

Source ?

 

[Mammo]

"Dark Heroes era"

-Nak the hack

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

>Dr.Stone again

I hope we don't get like 5-6 Dr.Stone covers until anime like last year.

 

[Tarot]

I like their style of work/ethic/culture and want to preserve it as much as possible. It's a preference of mine.So when I see some French animator ofc its going to bother me a bit.

First of all, what is your obsession with French people? There are Americans or Russians working in the industry too. Second, you're literally implying outsiders are inferior and can't replicate their style of work or ethic (hence you wanting to preserve it) when there's already examples of many outside animators such as Bahi JD (top animator at studio Trigger) able to keep up with their production. Stop flip flopping so much. Third, why do you think outsiders working in anime industry will ruin their culture? Foreign animators have been working in the anime industry for more than a decade.

You'd be surprised how many Japanese feel more or less the same way about me.

Nah, I'm going to call bullshit on this unless you have someone from the anime industry with these opinion. The fact that an old fashioned and strict company like Toei allowed French animators like Ken Arto or Mehdi Aouichaoui to work on Dragon Ball Super Broly movie clearly indicates the opposite of what you're saying.

I clearly stated this in my first post and it's very clear that I want this industry to keep its identity. (maybe you can say I said it in a mean way but idrc)

It pisses me off how you use vague words and terms to dodge the issue. What identity are you talking about?

Which is why I like the bollywood analogy as it is relevantly similar to the Japanese animation scenario.It's part of their cultural identity so why would they want foreigners, especially far out of asia working on it?

The bollywood analogy was wrong to begin because there are already foreigners in the Indian film industry such as Katrina Kaif who is one of the most top paid actress in India. Also, no, it's fucking not similar. Unlike in live action where race, skin, language, gender actually plays a huge role in deciding the casting, none of those matter in the animation medium. All you need is a pair of hands, good drawing skill and understanding of the animation medium.

You can think of this mindset as a traditional way of thinking, but there's totally nothing wrong with wanting to preserve/protect an industry that's deeply rooted in said country's culture. With Japan it's animation/manga and India would be films/dramas/music(?). It's not poor wording on my end, everyone else here understand its not racism aside from you. Quit reaching so much to frame me as a racist.

It's not a traditional mindset but backwards thinking you bellend. You've been consistently avoiding to explain WHAT you want the animation industry protected from by using vague terms like "culture" and "identity" and without elaborating how an outside animator would have any side effects on those two. If you can't explain why you get bothered without bringing up their race then you shouldn't be surprised by being called a racist because you're discriminating.

 

[Franz]

A break for My Hero is fine, counting that the last one dates back to 4 months ago.
I guess I want to take time to think about the new arc.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

>Dr.Stone again

I hope we don't get like 5-6 Dr.Stone covers until anime like last year.

I believe this is for the 2nd anniversary, so it's natural to get a cover

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

I believe this is for the 2nd anniversary, so it's natural to get a cover

Anniversary would be in Issue 14. I was expecting for Black Clover (anniversary in Issue 12) or Kimetsu (anniversary in Issue 11), but Dr.Stone milking continues as strong as ever.

 

[CuriousReborn]

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Anniversary would be in Issue 14. I was expecting for Black Clover (anniversary in Issue 12) or Kimetsu (anniversary in Issue 11), but Dr.Stone milking continues as strong as ever.

You know that there's no exact "issue number" to these things right? the first anniversary last year was celebrated in issue #20 while Yaiba 2nd was on #27! This time they're actually celebrating closer to the real dates.

 

[WyldViolet]

Why are people who know very little about Japanese culture trying to argue about it?

If anything it's further reason why you shouldn't be making something if you don't have an existing background in it. Just makes you look silly to people who actually know what they're talking about.

I can't believe that now people are trying to spin Japan off as some super progressive hotbed of diversity.

 

[tirakai]

It's weird to see such a sudden jump up for Hinomaru (and after a recent colour page), I know it's a big rematch getting ranked but even so it's weird seeing it jump up to the top 5 after months in the bottom 3 (and last week it was dead last even). Is there a big sumo event right now that they're tie-ing it into or something?

also can we please take the racism somewhere else? I come to this topic to talk about the magazine, not to hear your justifications for why you think only Japanese people should be allowed in Japan.

 

[Lizard_Boots]

You forgot BC above Japan, also lol at the new series all at the bottom 5

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Japan out on April.
Lead seiyuu is Minami Takayama

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 14, 2019 ---

Geez I feel like im gonna keep updating as it goes on, next issue hiatus for MHA

Detective Conan's VA as the main character? They really wanna make Jimoto work as an anime...

 

[Tarot]

Why are people who know very little about Japanese culture trying to argue about it?

Speak for yourself bozo.

If anything it's further reason why you shouldn't be making something if you don't have an existing background in it.Just makes you look silly to people who actually know what they're talking about.

You don't need a special background to be an animator in Japan. In fact if you bothered to do a little research, Japanese animation studios include overseas animators in their application during hiring process.

I can't believe that now people are trying to spin Japan off as some super progressive hotbed of diversity.

Lol fuck off. Nobody is arguing here that Japan is a leading example of diversity. The topic was about some guy getting upset about foreigners working in the animation industry which has been the norm for over a decade.

 

[WyldViolet]

Speak for yourself bozo.

You don't need a special background to be an animator in Japan. In fact if you bothered to do a little research, Japanese animation studios include overseas animators in their application during hiring process.

Lol fuck off. Nobody is arguing here that Japan is a leading example of diversity. The topic was about some guy getting upset about foreigners working in the animation industry which has been the norm for over a decade.

Lol no need for name calling buddy.
Also, I'm speaking more about East Asian/Western culture differences so you're rattling about nothing.
Regardless, bringing up animation outsourcing for an existing ip is a lousy argument and shows a lack of comprehending what we're saying.
Working in Japan as a manga artist is quite different than working on an outsourced animation project.
Stop misconstruing things.

 

[Jovan]

Gokutei Higuma and Ne0 seem to be in danger. I will not be surprised if David joins them and ALL of Hinomaru, Yuuna or Soma survive this round. Though it is still early-ish to say something considering both of the newbies havent even gotten to Chapter 10.

also can we please take the racism somewhere else? I come to this topic to talk about the magazine, not to hear your justifications for why you think only Japanese people should be allowed in Japan.

Freaking amen! The sad thing is that those people are still doing an off-topic on a Magazine related topic even after your post.

 

[MangAniMY]

Gintama 77 has gone from originally scheduled to be released in April then delayed to May and now is delayed again to June.


As expected of Gorilla sensei