Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Kharthas]

How long do you guys think this Kimetsu boost will go on for? I'm just amazed that the series is gaining nearly 50k new readers every week. Surely the influx of new fans must stop at some points?

 

[pamuchi]

I just checked on Amazon that both physical and digital version for Volume 18 are now in top 50 in best sellers and in Rakuten is n6 (only physical). Only a month away for its release and they are already pre ordering them that soon? I know these are not a real measure but wow.

 

[Ryuusei]

With known numbers for KnY, it's currently ahead of One Piece by 200k copies

Kimetsu no Yaiba - 9,994,120 copies sold
One Piece - 9,771,454 copies sold

Ay, I placed my money on the right bet. It's amazing seeing something remarkable as this happening. Gotouge must still be in disbelief with all that is happening.

Also, @animeexpert about that sock...

Kimetsu hype is at an all-time high right now, I really dont think the franchise is gonna see something like this again. It's inevitable that sales will decline, but where will they stabilize? Kimetsu can very well do 700k a month now, maybe 750k. That's still really high, and essentially guarantees it being a mainstay in the Top 5. Well... if the series itself continues.

As an aside, I'm pretty sure up to a good half of these series in the Top 10 will most likely end in the next year.

I would be VERY surprised if KNY isn't at least top 5 next year. Unless we get a huge anime (which we have not seem so far given how bland winter 2020 is), KNY has a safe spot. But also, now I'm wondering which series will be in the top 10 once HQ, TPN and KNY end.

you guys jest but the movie could add another 500k/volume lol. Don't count your eggs before they hatch.

With a backlog boost this strong, it's hard imagining it happening. But, who knows.

 

[Jovan]

Current Amazon sales rankings

#22 Haikyuu!! 40
#150 Dr. Stone 13
#162 We Never Learn 14
#653 Mato Seihei no Slave 3 (Jump+)
#803 Tokedase! Mizore-chan 4 (Jump+)

#1012 Haikyuu-bu 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#1055 Hidarikiki no Eren 10 (Jump+)
#1148 Koi Goku no Toshi 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#2043 Heart Gear 2 (Jump+)
#4039 Hachurui-chan wa Natsukanai 1 (NEW, Jump+)

#4829 Moon Land 4 (Jump+)
#5696 Omukae ni Agarimashita 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#5977 Hina Change 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#6660 Saigo no Saiyuuki 3
#7713 Kaibutsu Shoujo wa Hatsukoi no Yumewomiru ka? 1 (NEW, Jump+)

#11425 Beast Children 2
#13243 Tokyo Shinobi Squad 2
#19366 Double Taisei 2
#30096 Kako no Anata wo Yuukai Shimashita 3 (Jump+)
#30456 Kako no Anata wo Yuukai Shimashita 4 (Jump+)

 

[Newkerzy]

Ay, I placed my money on the right bet. It's amazing seeing something remarkable as this happening. Gotouge must still be in disbelief with all that is happening.

Also, @animeexpert about that sock...



I would be VERY surprised if KNY isn't at least top 5 next year. Unless we get a huge anime (which we have not seem so far given how bland winter 2020 is), KNY has a safe spot. But also, now I'm wondering which series will be in the top 10 once HQ, TPN and KNY end.



With a backlog boost this strong, it's hard imagining it happening. But, who knows.

Gator-sensei drowning in sake brought by Horikoshi, meanwhile Nakano is facing big-wigs questioning how in the world they undersold KnY and overprint S8 and is currently facing very possible dismissal.

 

[Thundercat27]

Stop bothering God Nakano.
He is studying alchemy to transform each unsold S8 volume into a newly printed Kny volume.

 

[iamnightwing]

I just checked on Amazon that both physical and digital version for Volume 18 are now in top 50 in best sellers and in Rakuten is n6 (only physical). Only a month away for its release and they are already pre ordering them that soon? I know these are not a real measure but wow.

Wow, is it the only one in the December releases? How bout MHA 25?

 

[Thores]

Current Amazon sales rankings

#22 Haikyuu!! 40
#150 Dr. Stone 13
#162 We Never Learn 14
#653 Mato Seihei no Slave 3 (Jump+)
#803 Tokedase! Mizore-chan 4 (Jump+)

#1012 Haikyuu-bu 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#1055 Hidarikiki no Eren 10 (Jump+)
#1148 Koi Goku no Toshi 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#2043 Heart Gear 2 (Jump+)
#4039 Hachurui-chan wa Natsukanai 1 (NEW, Jump+)

#4829 Moon Land 4 (Jump+)
#5696 Omukae ni Agarimashita 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#5977 Hina Change 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#6660 Saigo no Saiyuuki 3
#7713 Kaibutsu Shoujo wa Hatsukoi no Yumewomiru ka? 1 (NEW, Jump+)

#11425 Beast Children 2
#13243 Tokyo Shinobi Squad 2
#19366 Double Taisei 2
#30096 Kako no Anata wo Yuukai Shimashita 3 (Jump+)
#30456 Kako no Anata wo Yuukai Shimashita 4 (Jump+)

Oh.... I've been saying that I anticipated one of Beast/Taisei/TSS surviving through the next batch, and that it'd probably be TSS that survived.

... what if Beast Children survived instead? It's now selling the best out of the three (so at least the Rugby Cup gave it some kind of boost, I guess) and we know it's going to have some kind of development in #50, even though its latest arc is ending in #49. It'd be kind of a wild development, considering what a bumpy ride the series has had thus far, but maybe WSJ is actually playing the patient game this time? Keeping BC around until the Olympics, when Rugby Sevens will be a featured event, would make sense on some level.

 

[tirakai]

I feel like Beast Children's survival might depend on what's happening with Haikyuu.

If this 'final arc' is really more of a short epilogue and will end quick I figure they might keep BC for a while, since otherwise they'd have no sports series in the magazine. An unpopular series can still adding variety after all.

I don't mind what ends first really, I don't especially like any of them. Double Taisei does at least have some nice gags but the actual core of the series (the drama and mahjong) doesn't catch my attention at all.

 

[NeeNeen]

Double Taisei does at least have some nice gags but the actual core of the series (the drama and mahjong) doesn't catch my attention at all.

It's shogi.

And this illustrates nicely just how important that part of the series really is...

 

[tirakai]

With Christmas coming up in a couple months and the seasonal group covers with it, I'm curious who's going to be at the front and in what order. Haikyuu is probably finally off the top 3 at any rate.

I wonder how prominent Samurai 8 will be too, if they'll still try to push it hard or resign to it being a failure.

 

[Stivie]

do you think jump editors are waiting for the end of TPN to cancel Beast children, TSS and Double taisei ?

 

[Ryuusei]

With Christmas coming up in a couple months and the seasonal group covers with it, I'm curious who's going to be at the front and in what order. Haikyuu is probably finally off the top 3 at any rate.

I wonder how prominent Samurai 8 will be too, if they'll still try to push it hard or resign to it being a failure.

I think it should be OP, KNY, MHA, TPN and HQ up front then BC, JJK, AA, Stone and WNL in the middle then S8, CSM, Yuuna and Yui in the upper back and the rest in the lower back. Yui might be in the upper back out of pure seniority but it could be way back there too.

 

[Magister Xehanort]

Even if KNY exceeds One Piece sales, we can't forget that it sells less than a few years ago. Here is the Oricon sales of 2013:

2013 Manga Sales Ranking Top 30 (series)

1. One Piece (18,151,599)
2. Attack on Titan (15,933,801)
3. Kuroko's Basketball (8,761,081)
4. Magi (7,151,001)
5. Naruto (5,553,933)
6. Silver Spoon (4,858,699)
7. Assassination Classroom (4,595,820)
8. Hunter x Hunter (4,231,475)
9. FAIRY TAIL (3,790,151)
10. TERRA FORMARS (3,602,630)
11. Kimi ni Todoke (3,428,352)
12. Gintama (2,864,734)
13. Toriko (2,844,248)
14. Kingdom (2,805,945)
15. Bleach (2,752,588)
16. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (2,588,910)
17. Space Brothers (2,543,140)
18. Saint Young Men (2,487,751)
19. Blue Exorcist (2,329,721)
20. Chihayafuru (2,311,857)
21. AO--HARU--RIDE (2,106,452)
22. Haikyu!! (2,056,241)
23. Ace of Diamond (2,010,045)
24. Detective Conan (1,966,206)
25. SKET DANCE (1,783,098)
26. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: bunko (pocket-size) version (1,684,749)
27. Tokyo Ghoul (1,666,348)
28. Black Butler (1,562,863)
29. To Love-Ru Darkness (1,558,973)
30. Nisekoi (1,542,417)


2013 Manga Sales Ranking Top 30 (volume)

1. One Piece 69 (3,147,224)
2. One Piece 70 (3,039,487)
3. One Piece 71 (2,890,263)
4. One Piece 72 (2,354,005)
5. Attack on Titan 9 (1,950,807)
6. Attack on Titan 10 (1,915,976)
7. Attack on Titan 11 (1,453,879)
8. Attack on Titan 8 (1,339,845)
9. Attack on Titan 1 (1,299,048)
10. Attack on Titan 2 (1,267,129)
11. Attack on Titan 7 (1,261,251)
12. Attack on Titan 3 (1,250,663)
13. Attack on Titan 6 (1,248,339)
14. Attack on Titan 5 (1,247,333)
15. Attack on Titan 4 (1,241,299)
16. Naruto 63 (1,205,558)
17. Hunter x Hunter 31 (1,193,383)
18. Hunter x Hunter 32 (1,186,245)
19. Naruto 64 (1,088,464)
20. Kimi ni Todoke 18 (1,152,347)
21. Naruto 65 (1,088,464)
22. Kimi ni Todoke 19 (1,069,793)
23. Naruto 66 (1,054,934)
24. Saint Young Men 8 (946,531)
25. Silver Spoon 6 (941,090)
26. Assassination Classroom 2 (910,006)
27. Sakamoro Desuga? 1 (896,968)
28. Kuroko's Basketball 20 (884,432)
29. Kimi ni Todoke 20 (847,264)
30. Blue Exorcist 10 (844,790)

 

[Jovan]

New Jump+ round

 

[OtterBrigade]

Only two this time and one is adapting an anime that's over a year old? Maybe Jump is just having issues with no one submitting anything worth serializing, even on Jump+.

 

[MangAniMY]

gridman on jump+ was announced ages ago

 

[OtterBrigade]

gridman on jump+ was announced ages ago

that makes it even worse, only one of these would have been a recent thing then

 

[TxxT]

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue 50 Preview

Cover/LCP: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Color Page: Chainsaw Man, The Red Pledge (oneshot)

 

[Koni]

Current Amazon sales rankings

#22 Haikyuu!! 40
#150 Dr. Stone 13
#162 We Never Learn 14
#653 Mato Seihei no Slave 3 (Jump+)
#803 Tokedase! Mizore-chan 4 (Jump+)

#1012 Haikyuu-bu 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#1055 Hidarikiki no Eren 10 (Jump+)
#1148 Koi Goku no Toshi 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#2043 Heart Gear 2 (Jump+)
#4039 Hachurui-chan wa Natsukanai 1 (NEW, Jump+)

#4829 Moon Land 4 (Jump+)
#5696 Omukae ni Agarimashita 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#5977 Hina Change 1 (NEW, Jump+)
#6660 Saigo no Saiyuuki 3
#7713 Kaibutsu Shoujo wa Hatsukoi no Yumewomiru ka? 1 (NEW, Jump+)

#11425 Beast Children 2
#13243 Tokyo Shinobi Squad 2
#19366 Double Taisei 2
#30096 Kako no Anata wo Yuukai Shimashita 3 (Jump+)
#30456 Kako no Anata wo Yuukai Shimashita 4 (Jump+)

Goddamn... I got a little worried and thought Mato Seihei might not be doing alright compared to others... then I scrolled down.

I'm not exactly sure how well or how badly each of the new Jump+ series are doing, but they seem to be ranking much, much higher than the Jump flops. I guess I'll have to wait for Shoseki or Book-rank numbers.