Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[OtterBrigade]

I mean you could argue that nobody(at least people in the West) care about any of the gag series

Doesn't it rely a lot on knowledge of Japan too? You need to be able to understand gags for them to be funny in the first place

 

[ShenGao]

Kimetsu no Yaiba: 4.5 million in print

 

[TyVip]

Kimetsu no Yaiba: 4.5 million in print

does that mean 4.5 mil right now (14 volumes, print +digital?), or 4.5 mil in print when volume 15 comes out in April?

 

[westabyss]

Amazing-Great Tier:
One Piece (Wano Arc is really fun right now)
Jujutsu Kaisen (Best new series but i feel like it still didn't reach its full potential)
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Hunter X Hunter (Would be higher but even though i like the new arc, the last 10 or so chapter, the progress was really slow)

Good-Mid Tier:
Act Age
My Hero Academia (its on a free fall right now)
Chainsawman
Hinomaru Zumou (waaay behind on this one)

Mid-Bad Tier
Black Clover (its borderline good tier now)
We Never Learn (even bigger quality fall than MHA)
Dr. Stone
The Promised Neverland
Yuragi (stopped reading somewhere around ch.100)
Boruto

 

[TxxT]

1. Haikyu!! (enjoying the most by far)


My Hero Academia
Act-Age
Jujutsu Kaisen
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Dr STONE
One Piece (Wano and 90% of post ts has been boring for me)
TPN (losing interest)
BC (losing interest)
Boruto (losing interest)
Soma (dropped)

Everything else is on hold / haven't read yet

 

[Newkerzy]

My Hero Academia (its on a free fall right now)

People really hate the school arcs, huh? Look, I get the criticism about the last arc, and some valid points were made about it, but comments like this one up here is why I think a lot of the criticism about the last arc were overblown. If you're gonna talk about a "fall from grace", then the trash fire that is Souma would be a much better example.

A series doesn't have to have perfect arcs all the time. You can have mediocre arcs in between the amazing ones. Even OP & Naruto had some mediocre arcs inbetween.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

1. Black Clover: this arc is the most amazing and crazy arc we've had in a Jump manga in a while (I'm amazed about the very little credit this arc is having when I see the ranks of last two pages of this thread).
2. Act-age
3. My Hero Academia
4. Promised Neverland
5. Jujutsu Kaisen
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba
7. One Piece
8. David-kun
9. Dr.Stone
10. Haikyuu
11. WNL
12. Chainsawman

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Dead last. Shokugeki

 

[westabyss]

My issue against MHA is bigger than the school arc. Yeah, it was just meh but one 'meh' arc doesn't mean it fell off. MHA could never really connect with me after the tournament arc (except the All Might fight). Even though nothing interesting is happening in MHA most of the times, i still give it a free pass because the characters are so likeable. The problem is, MHA always feels like its building up to something big but never really delivers on anything. It just meanders around in the story part without really reaching anything. The villains aren't that interesting either which doesn't help.

Let's not even talk about Soma, i forgot its even running in Jump. That needs its own tier.

 

[Serinox]

People really hate the school arcs, huh? Look, I get the criticism about the last arc, and some valid points were made about it, but comments like this one up here is why I think a lot of the criticism about the last arc were overblown. If you're gonna talk about a "fall from grace", then the trash fire that is Souma would be a much better example.

Also, like the Overhaul Arc, it kinda was an arc that didn't read well on a chapter to chapter basis, but gains quality once you are able to go back and read it in bigger chunks. The Overhaul Arc was disliked as well at the time of its release, but these days, when talking about the upcoming aspects of it for the anime, manga readers seem much nicer and appreciative of the arc in retrospect.

Shokugeki is a gigantic fall from grace, yes. Series quality, reader reception and sales performance - if you wanna talk about a free fall, there you've got a real one. Shokugeki will 99% be one of the series that will end in the serialization round that launches Kishimoto's & Okubo's series.

 

[Unok]

After reading Kamio Yui, I have to say it's kinda meh for me. It kinda reminded me of Beelzebub, but neither as funny and neither as interesting. Will continue to read it and hope it gets better. I was hoping they would adapt the exorcist oneshot from last year Ishie no Horobimon (or something). It was much more fun read and it felt more like Nurarihyon and what Shiibashi was good.

Saigo no Saiyuki ch2 was also meh, felt kinda slow.

Gokutei Higuma: it seems the main enemy from Higuma no Te is appearing:

Spoiler

so guess this confirms Higuma no Te isn't prequel to Gokutei Higuma, and the series don't have connections.

 

[Obitooooo]

1. Black Clover
2. Jujutsu Kaisen
3. Promised Neverland
4. MHA
5. Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. Chainsaw Man

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

How would you guys rank all current Jump series (that you read) by your enjoyment of each series at its current point in time?


Chainsaw Man
Hiatus x Hiatus
One Piece
Jujutsu Kaisen
The Last Saiyuuki
The Promised Neverland
Yui Kamui
Neo:lation
Black Clover
My Hero Academia
Hinomaru Sumo
Kimetsu no Yaiba
David
Yuragi
Dr. Stone
Hell Warden Higuma

Boku no Hero Academia
Black Clover
Jujutsu Kaisen
Dr.Stone
Yuragi-Sou
Kamio Yui
We Never Learn
David-kun
Neverland
Act-Age
Haikyuu!
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Shokugeki no Souma
Hinomaru Zumou
Ne0
Chainsaw
Saiyuki
Boruto

 

[Tamil]

Kimetsu is a bit weird for me, it's been pretty good but those translations are pretty painful at times. When they use terms like hashira or kizuki, its pretty annoying at times. I don't get why they can't user pillars/upper moon demon. I can never, ever get used to those translations and nitpicks aside, it's honestly weird how they translate it, especially with the latest chapter. I know Viz took away term like "pig assault", stuff like that keeps me away from buying the volumes. I would rather much import the vols from Japan than buy the English volumes.

Kimetsu's final arc feels like it's going to be more on the asspull side. Kinda hard to believe with all the training/growth/powerups he went through that Tanjirou is able to fight against an upper moon like Akaza. Rengoku was depicted as being the strongest pillar and he had trouble keeping up.

Honestly, nothing that I'm reading weekly in WSJ is "enjoyable". I feel like a break from the magazine would help. That or catch up on the series I've placed on hold.

 

[supercow297]

Keep in mind that recency is a bias here. In descending order.

Tier 1 - Wait until I'm home on my computer to read
Chainsawman. Black Clover. We Never Learn. Kimetsu no Yaiba. Act Age. Jujutsu Kaisen.

Tier 2 - Prefer reading on computer
Hunter x Hunter. Haikyuu. One Piece. Dr. Stone. Hinomaru Zumou. Promised Neverland. Boku no Hero.

Tier 3 - Read on my phone when bored
David. Boruto. Saiyuki. Kamio Yui. Higuma. Jimoto. Yuuna. Neolation. Shokugeki.

Gintama and World Trigger would be at the top.

 

[Nemesis]

Currently my list probably would be like that

Bokuben
Act-Age
Yuragi-Sou no Yuna-san
The Last Sayuuki
Black Clover
Chainsaw Man
Neverland
David-kun
My Hero Academia
Dr. Stone
Jujutsu Kaisen
Kimetsu no Yaiba
One Piece

I dropped Soma in chapter 30 in 2012 and Boruto in the beginning of the manga. Still need to begin Haikyuu which is the other one from current titles that interest me.

 

[Jovan]

Shoseki 7 day sales for new volumes, Chainsaw Man got around 25k start, David Kun Volume 2 around 4k (from what I know, worse than Volume 1).

#1 One Piece Volume 92
#2 The Promised Neverland Volume 13
#4 Jujutsu Kaisen Volume 4
#28 Chainsaw Man Volume 1
#258 Shinshunki Renaissance David Kun Volume 2

30位25000/50位17300/100位11000/200位5200/300位3450/400位2500/500位1950

 

[SharkBait]

Doesnt seem chainsawnan did as spectacular as some people made it seem.

 

[Jovan]

Shoseki 7 day sales for new volumes of Shonen Jump+ manga. Bolded are MangaPlus serialized manga and new ones. There are 6 manga that sold less than 1,950 copies!!


#5 World's End Harem Volume 8
#12 Jigokuraku Volume 5
#74 Saotome Shimai wa Manga no Tame nara!? Volume 3
#96 Karadagasagashi Kai Volume 5
#109: Mato Seihei no Slave Volume 1 (NEW)
#173 Bokuyaku Battery Volume 3
#263 Hidarikiki no Eren Volume 7
#366 Psycho Against Volume 2
#Out of Top 500: Tomogui Kyoushitsu Volume 4
#Out of Top 500: 8LDK Volume 3
#Out of Top 500: Nano Hazard Volume 3
#Out of Top 500: LAND LOCK Volume 2
#Out of Top 500: Moon Land Volume 1 (NEW)
#Out of Top 500: MIST GEAR BLAST Volume 1 (NEW)

30位25000/50位17300/100位11000/200位5200/300位3450/400位2500/500位1950

 

[tirakai]

Figures a bunch of the ones they picked for Manga+ are the least selling. I wonder what their logic for the choices was, Abyss Rage, Blue Flag and a couple others I get but why Moon Land of all things? or Land Lock/Nano Hazard/8LDK which they already knew were doing horribly?

 

[Jovan]

Figures a bunch of the ones they picked for Manga+ are the least selling. I wonder what their logic for the choices was, Abyss Rage, Blue Flag and a couple others I get but why Moon Land of all things? or Land Lock/Nano Hazard/8LDK which they already knew were doing horribly?

And ironically they didnt pick up Slave which showed some actual potential to stay lol.

Doesnt seem chainsawnan did as spectacular as some people made it seem.

Maybe not spectacular as you say, but Chainsaw did right on the money in my prediction before Shoseki Day 1 even landed (20-25k, Charts on Oricon). Decent start, but hopefully grows.

David Kun is dead, dead, dead, dead. Unless it gets an anime somehow or it moves to SJ+. These sales are horrific for WSJ standards and the fact it dropped in Volume 2 tells it has no potential to grow. Too bad as I like the manga, but it was rejected in Japan.