Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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Man why is every time Shimabu the author or Toriko itself being mention in this thread, 2 things happened

> Shimabu past action
> Toei shaft the adaption and no sales

The stuff with Shimabu happened like 19 years ago, people can change. Except Watsuki, fuck him.

I know it's dead week but still talk about something else, read new series or something.
 

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Trivia (If it's off topic, feel free to delete):
What are the best and the worst anime adaptations from WSJ mangas?
For me the best are Haikyuu and Gintama and the worst are Nura, Medaka Box and Hinomaru Zumou.
World Trigger is pretty bad too, but at least had an impact on manga sales.
 
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Best : JJBA > Haikyuu > HxH 1999/Pre-TS OP > HxH 2011 > Kimetsu

Worst : HZ/Hoshin Engi...there's more bad ones but both HZ/Hoshin are in their own tier of shit adaptations.
 

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At this point, I can't even tell if you're supporting me or defending him.

Shark's logic is as follows; (made up example below)
Movie industry saw growth of 20% more boxoffice returns month on month from last year. Shark's logic implies that every movie released during the time frame made 20% more because he's using a market wide growth percentage when in reality it could have been just one movie that contributed to the whole growth while everything else failed.
Translation - He uses a generalized market number for a series when that series could be selling just a 100 copies a volume.

Whoever posted the comment about Jujutsu was optimistic based on daily rankings from a site that has always provided a vague idea where a volume stands. But that said, it always provided a basic idea of how good or bad a series is doing. Sure, the first 4 series might sell monumental and this might sell peanuts in comparison (which is why I mentioned their choice of word of "impressive" might be too much).
Going by a ranking that has given us a decent level of idea where something stands (when using it to compare to actual numbers we get) is far better than what Shark seems to be doing, which is push out numbers from wherever possible with nothing in hand.
I'm not defending anyone. I'm talking about your logic. You are completely talking about anything else, except the things you said. So much dodge...
Why are you explaining me Shark's logic? I know how he baits. I know how he exaggerates. The question is why did you too? And you are dodging it by talking about thing that I didn't even comment on. The released info on "sales" from couple of websites has actually no sales data, no numbers, just mentions some titles. We are completely unaware of which how much it sold on that website and on ALL websites at all. You cannot make a statement in digital sales from that info, yet you made. Don't go talking about what's Shark's logic, how someone was optimistic on Jujutsu's daily rankings. YOU are the one that brought up the digital "SALES" from websites "based on actual available best seller lists." No numbers, NOT all websites, NOT shueisha site. Get the issue? Drawing conclusions from such info is beyond wrong and inaccurate. Because if we use that best sellers list: One Punch is only 1-2 positions before Black Clover, so they sell almost equally? On that site, yes. On all sites altogether, unlikely. That's the issue I'm talking about and that's why basing argument on that data is beyond flawed.



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About this sex crimes. People will never stop talking about them XD For Shimabukuro it was like 20 years ago. A bit different time, with some law about child prostitution in Japan starting to change during that time. Move on already. There is a bit difference in being attracted to 16 or 8 years old. Doing something is a crime, sure, but the 16 years old offering the service is also at fault (also often they hide their age). While 8 years old child pornography is usually only one side at fault, as those children are not offering it as service. Anyway, it's a crime, it was 20 years ago, move on.

"Shimabu trying to sleep with a 16 year old is basically child marriage, without the marriage." rofl -> so sleeping with women is like marriage, but without marriage HAHAHAH Good one! Guess logic is missing today.
 

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For me the best are Haikyuu and Gintama and the worst are Nura, Medaka Box and Hinomaru Zumou.
World Trigger is pretty bad too, but at least had an impact on manga sales.
Ehh, Nurarihyon no Mago one of the worst? You're being a bit contradictory when you say this and say that WT was bad but at least had a impact in the sales when Nura anime not only was way better produced but gave a great boost sales to the manga, it was selling over 300k in the peak and the last volume two years after the 2nd season ended was still selling over 220k in the top 50.
 

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Shimabukuro picking Takeshi over Toriko again
What are the best and the worst anime adaptations from WSJ mangas?
For me the best are Haikyuu and Gintama and the worst are Nura, Medaka Box and Hinomaru Zumou.
World Trigger is pretty bad too, but at least had an impact on manga sales.
Nura and Medaka weren’t even that bad.
Hoshin Engi’s latest adaptation is definitely the worse. Imagine if HZ tried to cover the entire manga, and not just part one, plus it had a solid story throughout, because that’s what HE did.
BC is inconsistent as hell, looking like ass most of the time but being quite impressive here and there. At its worse, it’s probably similar to WT.
Watching Yu Gi Oh rn and its quite interesting. Its pretty much entirely still images, and they change a ton of small things. Still fun though.

Most people are gonna have similar opinions on what’s best, so something a little different from me - Saiki. The animation was as poor as anything, but through fabulous directing, an amazing voice cast, and perfect format for a comedy of this kind, it works far better than it has any right to, and is easily one of my favourites.
 

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Nura and Medaka weren’t even that bad.
Hoshin Engi’s latest adaptation is definitely the worse. Imagine if HZ tried to cover the entire manga, and not just part one, plus it had a solid story throughout, because that’s what HE did.
BC is inconsistent as hell, looking like ass most of the time but being quite impressive here and there. At its worse, it’s probably similar to WT.
Watching Yu Gi Oh rn and its quite interesting. Its pretty much entirely still images, and they change a ton of small things. Still fun though.

Most people are gonna have similar opinions on what’s best, so something a little different from me - Saiki. The animation was as poor as anything, but through fabulous directing, an amazing voice cast, and perfect format for a comedy of this kind, it works far better than it has any right to, and is easily one of my favourites.
Which yu gi oh? The first adaptation by Toei or the one that was later adapted in the early 2000s
 

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Which yu gi oh? The first adaptation by Toei or the one that was later adapted in the early 2000s
Duel Monsters. I didn’t watch “Season 0” as people like to call it, I read it instead, so can’t say about that.
 

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Ehh, Nurarihyon no Mago one of the worst? You're being a bit contradictory when you say this and say that WT was bad but at least had a impact in the sales when Nura anime not only was way better produced but gave a great boost sales to the manga, it was selling over 300k in the peak and the last volume two years after the 2nd season ended was still selling over 220k in the top 50.
Whoa. I didn't follow Nura sales so I wasn't aware the anime had such a great impact.
Great for Shibashi. (And now I feel bad for him. Kamio Yui is such a waste of time and effort)
 

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Any confirmation of Higuma ending?
 

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4 Days

255103 *255103 MHA
*83006 **83006 Jujutsu
*54353 **54353 ActAge. Previous Dr. Stone volume which was also 4 days: 49856
*34434 **34434 Franxx
*26382 **26382 Chainsaw
*20829 1895859 One Piece
*19803 **19803 DBS Broly anime book
*19301 *535789 Haikyuu
*17218 **17218 Sumo
*16151 *214609 KnY 15
*15899 **15899 DBS heroes
*15633 *293568 KnY2
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*15054 *308736 KnY 1
*14838 *285314 KnY 3
*14264 *238713 DBS
*14103 **14103 早 Idk what this is Saotome Sister
*13998 *278989 KnY 4
*13259 *276097 KnY 5
*12991 *229538 KnY 14
*12928 *517731 Neverland 13
*12758 *253158 KnY 11
*12712 *245231 KnY 13
*12690 *248143 KnY 12
*12250 *273559 KnY 6
*12224 *228924 BC 20
*11811 *688598 Neverland 12
*11719 *258874 KnY 7
*11424 *257481 KnY 8
 
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How many days was MHA? It's quite a steep drop
 

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How many days was MHA? It's quite a steep drop
4 Days, previous volume had 7 days so we cant really tell anything concrete yet
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At least we know that ActAge surpassed Dr. Stone :derp
 
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