Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[MangAniMY]

Surely you meant to say its one of those with digital sales that are at least 10 million. I cant see how BLack Clover isnt one of those series.

10M yen...

you can do the calculations yourself right

 

[Ryuusei]

Err almost all the current series except for the newbies are bigger than bc. I would put jjk and act age in a different group tho. I don't know about Dr stone if it has the same amount of copies or less.

Dr. Stone is still below Black Clover, probably won't ever surpass it.

I think the most recent one that got an all color chapter was Naruto for its final chapter? Maybe it will happen again. But who knows.

I find it possible, to be honest and it would be something really nice to see.

Its an ongoing recent series that is highly profitable for all parties involved. All signs and symptoms point to it as being one of the series in that group. Volumes charting in end of the year lists, posted even today, further solidifies BLack Clover's placement in this group as well. I can't think of anything that would suggest or strongly imply that BLack Clover is not a highly digitally selling manga. Can you? If so I would like to know since it would be great to have misconceptions and presuppositions clarified.

Black Clover's volumes never showed up in Oricon's yearly charts and the ebook chart posted by Rakuten is by series total, showing it's behind KNY, OP, TPN, HQ, MHA, Dr. Stone and HXH. If anything BC's in the middle, not in the upper end.

 

[MangAniMY]

Dr. Stone is still below Black Clover, probably won't ever surpass it.



I find it possible, to be honest and it would be something really nice to see.



Black Clover's volumes never showed up in Oricon's yearly charts and the ebook chart posted by Rakuten is by series total, showing it's behind KNY, OP, TPN, HQ, MHA, Dr. Stone and HXH. If anything BC's in the middle, not on the upper end.

edit, misread, 2nd points stays

at least on rakuten. I do need to point out that there are more sites.


though rakuten is basically the biggest online company from Japan, and one of the top online stores in Japan

 

[shoyoboyo]

I can't think of anything that would suggest or strongly imply that BLack Clover is not a highly digitally selling manga.

I think you meant to say "highly suggest or strongly imply".

 

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Interesting. I wasn't aware that they were previously on Jump+. The more I read through Mitama, the more I find myself enjoying it. The spirits are hands-down the best part of the series, and him going through and starting to give some of them distinct personalities as side characters was an excellent writing move. I was worried at first thinking it would just be a "spirit of the week" type series, but those worries are now completely gone. After this past chapter, I hope we won't end up getting a sad Ta and Pi story after that little comment.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

>Shueisha: Kimetsu no Yaiba has 25 million copies printed on November!

>Also the same Shueisha: Kimetsu no Yaiba sold 10 million copies until November!

Err almost all the current series except for the newbies are bigger than bc. I would put jjk and act age in a different group tho. I don't know about Dr stone if it has the same amount of copies or less.

Talk about extrapolation, Black Clover is a pretty big series for Shonen Jump, the only mangas above are the obvious ones, One Piece, Haikyuu, BNHA, Neverland and now Yaiba after the anime phenomenon, and 3 of them are already ending, with Jujutsu Kaisen the future will tell, also most vetereans that ended in the last two years were also under BC volume sales.

 

[pamuchi]

>Shueisha: Kimetsu no Yaiba has 25 million copies printed on November!

>Also the same Shueisha: Kimetsu no Yaiba sold 10 million copies until November!



Talk about extrapolation, Black Clover is a pretty big series for Shonen Jump, the only mangas above are the obvious ones, One Piece, Haikyuu, BNHA, Neverland and now Yaiba after the anime phenomenon, and 3 of them are already ending, with Jujutsu Kaisen the future will tell, also most vetereans that ended in the last two years were also under BC volume sales.

There's a before and after, before bc for sure was way more ahead of them, specially KnY.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I noticed now that Kimetsu no Yaiba twitter didn't posted the article about the manga being in 2nd with 10 million copies sold, interesting, can you imagine the awkwardness if they post the Oricon link instead and commemorate the manga being in first? kkkkkk

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 26, 2019, Original Post Date: Nov 26, 2019 ---

There's a before and after, before bc for sure was way more ahead of them, specially KnY.

Your point is that almost everything in the magazine is above Black Clover, but isn't, just the typical big hits that were already bigger from the beginning and now Yaiba that is a abomination.

 

[pamuchi]

I think they only post things from Oricon. Last time they posted something from it was that the first BD volume ranked first back in August, thanking its audience. Also they used to report how many copies in print have achieved, the last time was 12M thing.

At the end who's behind those Twitter accounts? People from shueshia?

I noticed now that Kimetsu no Yaiba twitter didn't posted the article about the manga being in 2nd with 10 million copies sold, interesting, can you imagine the awkwardness if they post the Oricon link instead and commemorate the manga being in first? kkkkkk

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 26, 2019, Original Post Date: Nov 26, 2019 ---

Your point is that almost everything in the magazine is above Black Clover, but isn't, just the typical big hits that were already bigger from the beginning and now Yaiba that is a abomination.

I didn't consider it when i sent my reply, sorry you're right.

 

[Rain Spectre]

At the end who's behind those Twitter accounts? People from shueshia?

I think it's dedicated marketing departments?

 

[Nemesis]

And of those studios, which is free next year?

None. Be it from announced projects or not.

Seems like this narrows down the studio to most likely being
Bones
Production IG
White Fox
A1

Very doubtful that will be A-1 considering that they like Cloverworks basically works with Aniplex, since both are a subsidiary of them.

 

[SharkBait]

I want someone to do Jujutsu Kaisen like BLack Clover. The wealth of art styles in it and pumpin rocking music has been on point. Also I love having anime as a weekly part of my life instead of waiting every so often, its pretty annoying to wait half a year or in HQ's case, years for more content.

 

[Minsel]

i think jujutsu is gonna be by White fox, mark my words.

 

[NyanPower]

I’m gonna bet on Bones, it feels like one of their works

 

[pamuchi]

Some folks on 5ch were saying that it would be Platinum vision a week ago. Is this studio linked with Toho?

They are the ones who are working Koto oto tomare (a jump series).

 

[OtterBrigade]

Some folks on 5ch were saying that it would be Platinum vision a week ago. Is this studio linked with Toho?

they seem to be fairly new and not really tied to anyone in particular. Never done anything with Toho before though.

 

[Ryuusei]

>Shueisha: Kimetsu no Yaiba has 25 million copies printed on November!

>Also the same Shueisha: Kimetsu no Yaiba sold 10 million copies until November!



Talk about extrapolation, Black Clover is a pretty big series for Shonen Jump, the only mangas above are the obvious ones, One Piece, Haikyuu, BNHA, Neverland and now Yaiba after the anime phenomenon, and 3 of them are already ending, with Jujutsu Kaisen the future will tell, also most vetereans that ended in the last two years were also under BC volume sales.

To be fair, the 25 million statement didn't come from Shueisha, it came from the news site itself, Comic Natalie.

None. Be it from announced projects or not.



Very doubtful that will be A-1 considering that they like Cloverworks basically works with Aniplex, since both are a subsidiary of them.

BONES only has MHA and the new Eureka Seven in the works now and that's Studio C and E, respectively. They have nothing else due next year.

I want someone to do Jujutsu Kaisen like BLack Clover. The wealth of art styles in it and pumpin rocking music has been on point. Also I love having anime as a weekly part of my life instead of waiting every so often, its pretty annoying to wait half a year or in HQ's case, years for more content.

God please no, we already avoided Pierrot, having a long running anime for JJK show would only be a let down. BC's anime has been a disaster for the most part. Long running shows require a tighter schedule and more dedication from it's production team. This kind of anime is super unhealthy and has been cast aside more and more in recent years, giving space for shorter seasonal productions with higher production values. This also means studios will avoid them. Besides that, long running animes air in daytime and JJK is a pretty violent show, I highly doubt they would let it be a long running show airing in daytime.

i think jujutsu is gonna be by White fox, mark my words.

I would be concerned, to be honest. Goblin Slayer was bad and Arifureta was one of the biggest trainwrecks of 2019.

 

[SharkBait]

This also means studios will avoid them. Besides that, long running animes air in daytime and JJK is a pretty violent show, I highly doubt they would let it be a long running show airing in daytime.

its not more violent than Naruto, or BLack Clover, or even HxH which ran in the daytime. Theres no need to fear.

 

[animeexpert]

its not more violent than Naruto, or BLack Clover, or even HxH which ran in the daytime. Theres no need to fear.

Black clover more violent than jjk?... are we reading the same manga?, haahhahaa

 

[Ryuusei]

Kimetsu no Yaiba's growth per volume when compared to One Piece, Naruto, Bleach and My Hero Academia.

List of manga series that have had a 1st print of a million copies at one point. WSJ has 21 series (22 now with Kimetsu no Yaiba) to reach that milestone.

WSJ's Series List: One Piece, Slam Dunk, Dr. Slump, Dragon Ball, Yuu Yuu Hakushou, Naruto, Kinnikuman, Hunter x Hunter, Rurouni Kenshin, Bleach, Death Note, Prince of Tennis, Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken, Bastard!!, Hokuto no Ken, Saint Seiya, Video Girl Ai, Rokudenashi Blues, Kuroko no Basket, Assassination Classroom.