Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Rejuvenation]

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Even worse that we are approaching 2010 as well. Those series will have it rough too. The only other older series that even looks like it will end is Naruto and that is still at least a year off at the absolute minimum if not two or more.

 

[Drmke]

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New series have really always had it rough. Unless one can gain popularity almost immediately, they will fail. Even the worse off ones like Psyren and Sket Dance still didn't do that bad during their early stages.

2008 was the same. Those series just gained more popularity than other years like '07 and '09. Plently that year failed as well. The name of the game is whether or not a series can survive long enough for something else to fail.

 

[wingman32x]

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Well, Ane Doki's in the bottom 5...again. This sucks. I kind of expected it because chapters 4-10 were all ecchi and very little plot imo. Good news is that it gets so much better starting from chapter 11, so lets hope it hits the middle at least twice during those ecchi chapters.

 

[Kaiten]

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Despite the bottom five finish, Kuroko is doing well. Volume sales keep increasing, in the same manner that Mago's kept increasing. While sports series seem to have a lower ceiling Kuroko seems to be on track to be a hit. Bottom five doesn't mean much to me; Beelzebub and Bakuman yo - yo between the middle and bottom just as often. If Jump wants to promote their only sports series more power to them.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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New series have really always had it rough. Unless one can gain popularity almost immediately, they will fail. Even the worse off ones like Psyren and Sket Dance still didn't do that bad during their early stages.

2008 was the same. Those series just gained more popularity than other years like '07 and '09. Plently that year failed as well. The name of the game is whether or not a series can survive long enough for something else to fail.

I think Psyren and Sket Dance are safe because there isn't much considerable hits during 2005~2007 to threat Sket's and Psyren's place.

2005 hit=Neuro
2006 hit=To Love-Ru, Mx0
2007 hit=Sket Dance, Hatsukoi

Comapre to 2004 and 2008, the 2005~2007 series don't have lots of series to keep, so there is lots of space for newer series to came in. Also in winter of 2004, a massive year for Jump, there was no series got axed and one new series came in.

 

[Kaiten]

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The new series have been helped by the number of established series that ended or moved over the last two years. Prince of Tennis and D. Gray Man switching to SQ, Muhyo to Rojii, Eyeshield, Neuro, Mx0, and To Love Ru ending. 2004 and 2005 were similar; Buso Renkin, Ichigo 100%, Black Cat, and Shaman King all came to end during that time. Every one of those series ended in place of a new series.

 

[pandaaqueen]

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#47 (19/10) :
One Piece (Absent)

Updated preview :I

 

[TitaniumChloride]

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^ Darn. Well, at least the odd One Piece breaks will stop after the Strong World movie is done right?

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I'm beginning to feel wonder why Medaka is not in the ranking of Jbook for about two days, while Akaboshi still able to hang up on top 50.

Is Medaka's first stock ard sold out or is below top 50?

Also, does anyone knows if first stock is sold, how long does it take to get another stock?

 

[Josl]

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^ Darn. Well, at least the odd One Piece breaks will stop after the Strong World movie is done right?

I wouldn't be so sure. He has now a daughter and this is his usual workflow:

Spoiler

Oda-sensei's workflow for a week:

Monday - Comic creation

Tuesday - Comic creation -> Finishing manuscript!

Wednesday - Staff meeting (usually by phone), Color illustrations, Anime related things, etc.

Thursday - Color illustrations, Anime related things, etc.

Friday - Sketches, Arrival of assistants ("I make them come early so that I get into a situation where I can't escape. (laugh)" --Oda-sensei)

Saturday - Sketches

Sunday - Comic creation

Edit:

Is Medaka's first stock ard sold out or is below top 50

If something is sold out on Amazon it usually is signalised somewhere. I don't know how it is like on jbook but shouldn't it be also somewhere signalised?

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

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Updated preview :I

Well...that only means that OP is going to have something major happen this week. Breaks tend to happen after major plot points, so I can't wait to see what's gonna happen! ^^

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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ナルト(表紙&巻頭)
鰤
ワンピ
銀玉
スケット
いぬっ
べるぜ
リボン(C)
亀
トリコ
保険
サイレン
ぬらり
わじま
いぬ
めだか
バクマン
あねっ
黒子
赤星
鍵人
ジャガー

Naruto (Cover & Colour Page)
Bleach
One Piece
Gintama
Sket Dance
Inumaru
Beelzebub
Reborn (Colour Page)
Kochikame
Toriko
Hokenshitsu
Psyren
Nurarihyon
Wajimania
Lilienthal
Medaka
Bakuman
Ane Dokii
Kuroko
Akaboshi
Kagijin
Jaguar

 

[Googlez_kun]

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Bleach over OP?
either the one piece chapter was terrible or that was some editor action...

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Bleach beats One Piece? That is just so wrong. At least Naruto is more understandable when it happens.

Nice to see Sket in the top 5 and Beelzebub is in a pretty nice spot at 6. Toriko, Psyren, and Mago following behind it.

Only 2 more weeks for Shinigami to be ranked. Will we have fodder or a potential hit? I'm still leaning towards the former.

I'm happy Medaka escaped the bottom 5 but Ane Doki being there is bitter sweet.

 

[SameOld]

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Hmm... Lilienthal at 15/22, three weeks before being officially ranked... I smell a Hoop Men. Houkenshitsu doesn't give any early signs of tanking, but we never know. And... WAIT WAIT WAIT, Bleach is above OP? How many centuries has it been since that last happened?

 

[ruggia]

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Lilienthal is dropping pretty quick... hmm well, I guess it might not mean anything if we look at how Waji dropped at first but now, seem to be in the low-middle range. I really wonder what the WSJ want with Lilienthal and Waji.

Psyren is in a good place, so I'm happy

and what is up with OP. First Naruto, then Bleach. Strange circumstances.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I have no idea how Hokenshitus and Lilienthal will be do after they started to get ranked. It didn't got worse since chapter 1, but I, personally, think didn't got better either.

Also, looks like everyone is shocked about Bleach beating One Piece, so I checked which chapter are ranked for both.

Bleach=Chapter 370 (conclusion of vs. Barragan)
One Piece=Chapter 553 (beginning of WB Pirate and his alliance pirates vs. Marine and Shichibukai)

 

[Kaiten]

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I don't think it's fair to judge Lilienthal considering it is unranked.

How come the TOC is out so early?

 

[[Cross]]

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Bleach=Chapter 370 (conclusion of vs. Barragan)
One Piece=Chapter 553 (beginning of WB Pirate and his alliance pirates vs. Marine and Shichibukai)

Could this foreshadow something? Could Japan just not care about the war? The conclusion vs Barragan was pretty decent, but still...

 

[Kaiten]

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Maybe Japan doesn't like 4 double page splashes per chapter and no dialog? I'd expect One Piece down, second or third, for a few weeks. Those were not great chapters. By the end of the Barragan fight Bleach had recovered a lot of the attitude it lost when Hueco Mundo/Vaizard Gaiden ended. Maybe not deserving of first place, but for a week Naruto gets placed, Bleach deserved first over OP.