Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

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Poor Meister. I thought it was the best of the new series. Oh well, you can't always win. Eyeshield helps Mago convinces Mago it'll take one for the team. Inumaru Dashi is in the top five (Probably editor love). Psyren is given another chance since it's new arc is catching on and Sket is in a slump.
 

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what?!? why is meister ending?i thought the last chapters were getting really interesting!shame on you,japanese readers:shakefist
 

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1. Naruto
2. Toriko
3. Bleach
4. Reborn
5. Inumaru
6. Bakuman
7. Gintama
8. Psyren
9. Bokkesan
10. Sket
11. Nurari
12. Es21
13. ToLove
14. Meister(End)

so inumaru surprises us all by elevating itself into the top 5 (and after som slight yoyoing too. kid's got legs.... but still no pants) lowering bakuman just outside it. and bleach... ugh i hate the voters. and bokke-san being above sket dance is an atrocity. hopefully the awesomeness of the sket bangaihen will help it in the coming weeks
 

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My question is why do the Japanese still enjoy Reborn! the series went down the tubes months ago. At least it shouldn't be anywhere near the top, hell it should be closer to the bottom.
 

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because fanservice sells. i dunno they must still enjoy it for a reason. it's not always bad at the moment, just realy flawed.

it certianly doesn't deserve #4 this week
 

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I still like reborn a lot. But yeah all the genkishi chapters should have been rated lower than they are rated now... Love to see psyren close to the middle. Nice
 

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1. Naruto
2. Toriko
3. Bleach
4. Reborn
5. Inumaru
6. Bakuman
7. Gintama
8. Psyren
9. Bokkesan
10. Sket
11. Nurari
12. Es21
13. ToLove
14. Meister(End)
1. Naruto
2. Toriko
3. Bleach
4. Reborn
5. Inumaru
6. Bakuman
7. Gintama
8. Psyren
9. Bokkesan
10. Sket
11. Nurari
12. Es21
13. Neuro
14. ToLove
15. Meister(End)

Neuro was left off the TOC this week. All versions, not just Noodles. I'm not sure weather I like Bokke - san collapsing. It has it's charms as a series and could end up being very good. But I read enough good series, a manga to protect Mago and Sket for the next couple of months would be more useful.

My question is why do the Japanese still enjoy Reborn! the series went down the tubes months ago. At least it shouldn't be anywhere near the top, hell it should be closer to the bottom.
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Inumaru above Psyren and Bakuman is a tragedy in itself...let's not make this a habit, Japanese readers...
 

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and bleach... ugh i hate the voters.
Unfortunately since this was close to the point Ichigo and the main cast returned to the story, I can understand the talk of Bleach's collapse was "premature". We just have a bunch of braindead Japanese fans who will keep it going no matter what...combined with people who liked that week. Still doesn't put it past Toriko, which means we may be stuck with a "big 4" for a while.
 

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Aren't these just the order the editor feel like putting them in?
 

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There based on fan polls. Every issue, this goes for virtually every magazine, includes a post card where fans can vote for there three favorite chapters of the week. The editors at Jump compile the results into the TOC. Each TOC reflects post card results from eight weeks prior. Jump is unusual in that fan polls are the deciding factor in both the TOC and weather a series lives long enough to see it's first volume release. Jump has a long standing policy of being more responsive to their readers then the competition.
 

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Sad, but so, so true. IS there any appeal of the manga besides that?

Bokke-san doesn't seem to be collapsing to me. It's low, but isn't it being rated now? It's not taking off, but it's not plummeting like Meister, either.
 

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Sad, but so, so true. IS there any appeal of the manga besides that?

Bokke-san doesn't seem to be collapsing to me. It's low, but isn't it being rated now? It's not taking off, but it's not plummeting like Meister, either.
Reborn used to have appeal. It still has some. The Varia arc has amazing. It was a creative, original action arc built around fight scenes not involving super powers, at least till the last fight. The current arc has seemed intent on changing Reborn into Naruto or Bleach, which is fine if your Naruto or Bleach. But Akira - sensei doesn't seem to have that type of talent. Everything seems forced.

Bokke - san may not be collapsing. It dropped a little this week.
 

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the main thing i've noticed with reborn is that the colour arts got worse with the worse the future arc gets
 

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Color pages were the least of this weeks issues v_v
 

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meister nooooooooooo
and another sketball series? glad i dont have enough time for this anymore :s

and dont be so quick with the "editor love", i thought people might've learnt to be a bit ginger after toriko proved em wrong week after week
 

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that and inumaru has been a victim of the yoyo one a fair few occasions
 

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Sorry, I did mean current appeal for Reborn. ^^;; I've read the series and enjoyed it once the Daily Life stuff ended, although recent chapters (that I read... but I'm at least five or six chapters behind) didn't bother me all that much. It's a cute series, for sure, but...

I wonder about Inumaru and editor love, I admit, but mostly because it's a gag series and we've heard of those being placed before (variety, maybe?). It may very well not be the case.
 

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#12 (16/02)

Op (cover + cp)
Naruto
Toriko
Bleach
Reborn
Inumaru
Bakuman
Kuroko (cp)
Kochi
Gintama
Crimson King (One Shot with cp)
Psyren
Bokkesan
Sket
Nurari
Es21
ToLove
Meister(End)
Jaguar

Credits to dofla

*waves goodbye to Meister*

Toriko is above Bleach again. :D

I'm happy that Psyren hasn't been in the bottom. Bakuman falling below both Bleach and Reborn this round was surprising though. o:

Reborn! has only had a real problem since the attack on the melone base started imo. Compare that to Bleach which has been shit since Soul Society ended and still remains as #3.

A series can have a bad arc or a sequence of bad chapters but when half the manga has become complete shit its another story. :notrust
 
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Maybe someone (who has too much free time >.>) would like to dig through our threads and list all cover and cp series in correct order? The question whether a series got a cover and how often seems to appear on every 2-3th page in this thread.
Ok, so here's a breakdown of 2008:

Asklepios - Cover - 1, Color - 2
Bakuman - Cover - 1, Color - 4
Bari Haken - Cover - 1, Color - 3
Bleach - Cover - 7, Color - 9
Chagecha - Cover - 1, Color - 2
D. Grey-Man - Cover - 0, Color - 2
Dogashi Kaden - Cover - 1, Color - 2
Double Arts - Cover - 2, Color - 4
Eyeshield 21 - Cover - 4, Color - 5
Gintama - Cover - 4, Color - 3
Hatsukoi Limited - Cover - 0, Color - 1
Hunter X Hunter - Cover - 3, Color - 2
Inumaru Dashi - Cover - 0, Color - 2
Jaguar - Cover - 0, Color - 1
Kochikame - Cover - 0, Color - 2
KoSen - Cover - 1, Color - 1
Mago - Cover - 1, Color - 7
Muddy - Cover - 1, Color - 1
Muhyo & Roji - Cover - 0, Color - 0
Mx0 - Cover - 0, Color - 0
Naruto - Cover - 3, Color - 4
Neuro - Cover - 0, Color - 2
One Piece - Cover - 4, Color - 6
Prince of Tennis - Cover - 1, Color - 2
Poseidon - Cover - 0, Color - 1
Psyren - Cover - 1, Color - 3
Reborn - Cover - 3, Color - 3
Samurai Usagi - Cover - 0, Color - 2
Sket Dance - Cover - 0, Color - 4
To Love - Cover- 0, Color - 7
Toriko - Cover - 3, Color - 5
Yusha Gaku - Cover - 0, Color - 3

And here's the listing of the Issues of 2008 in order:

1: Cover/Color - Psyren
2: Cover/Color - Kosen
3: Cover/Color - Muddy
Color - Bleach
4/5: Cover - Group (featuring One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach)
Color - One Piece, Bleach, Poseidon, To Love
6/7: Cover - Group (featuring One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach)
Color - Naruto
8: Cover - Eyeshield
Color - Sket Dance
9: Cover/Color - Bleach
Color - Hatsukoi, Usagi
10: Cover/Color - Reborn
Color - Psyren
11: Cover/Color - Gintama
12: Cover/Color - PoT
Color - Sket Dance
13: Cover/Color - One Piece
Color - To Love
14: Cover/Color - HxH
Color - Neuro, PoT
15: Cover/Color - Mago
16: Cover/Color - Bari Haken
Color - Mago
17: Cover/Color - Double Arts
Color - Bari Haken
18: Cover - Group (featuring Kochikame, One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach)
Color - Kochikame, Double Arts, To Love, Yusha
19: Cover/Color - Bleach
Color - Usagi, Psyren
20: Cover/Color - Es21
Color - Sket Dance
21: Cover - HxH
Color - D. Grey-Man, Yushagaku
22/23 Cover - Naruto
Color - Mago
24: Cover - Bleach
Color - Double Arts, Bari Haken
25: Cover/Color - Toriko
Color - To Love
26: Cover - Gintama
Color - Toriko, Yushagaku
27: Cover/Color - Dogashi Kaden
Color - Neuro
28: Cover/Color - Bleach
Color - Kaden
29: Cover/Color - One Piece
30: Cover/Color - Double Arts
Color - Toriko, Mago
31: Cover/Color - Reborn
32: Cover/Color - Es21
33: Cover/Color - Bleach
Color - To Love
34: Cover - Group (featuring Kochikame, One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach)
Color - One Piece
35: Cover/Color - Naruto
Color - Gintama
36: - Cover/Color - Toriko
Color - Naruto
37/38: - Cover - Group (no series' character really stands out)
Color - Bakuman
39: Cover/Color - Bakuman
Color - Es21, Inumaru Dashi
40: Cover/Color - Bleach
Color - Inumaru
41: Cover/Color - Gintama
Color - D. Grey
42: Cover/Color - Chagecha
Color - Sket Dance
43: Cover/Color - Asklepios
Color - Chagecha, Mago
44: Cover/Color - One Piece
Color - Asklepios, To Love
45: Cover/Color - HxH
Color - Bleach
46: Cover/Color - Naruto
Color - Es21
47: Cover/color - Reborn
Color - Jaguar
48: Cover/Color - Toriko
Color - Mago, Bakuman
49: Cover/Color - One Piece
Color - Kochikame
50: Cover - Eyeshield 21
Color - Bakuman, To Love
51: Cover - Gintama
Color - Es21
52: Cover/Color - Bleach
Color - Mago

Hope that helps. I'll try to do 2007 later.
 
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