Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[coinanmat]

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^Well yeah, there is a forumula for getting manga in the US. If a series becomes popular in Japan and sells well, then it is imported to the US where it will continue to sell well.

 

[Digital_Eon]

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Hatsukoi wasn't really a failure, was it? I thought it had a regular, planned ending - and it got an anime on top of that. But even with that, it looks like there's a bad trend for fall series. I hope we don't see anything particularly interesting in the next batch of new series (that, or the cycle breaks this year).

 

[Drmke]

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I see what your saying. Mago will probably get more then that; Tegami Bachi has had three chapters so far, all of volume 1 and the first chapter of volume 2.

I was thinking they might do Mago like D. Gray-man or Hunter x Hunter. Just show a small preview and try to sell it fast. Both of those sell really well and only had a small preview in the magazine.

If they did do an extended preview, I don't see it being more than one volume. So far, Slam Dunk and Gintama are the only ones that have gotten an extended preview.

Tegami Bachi seems like its there to stay unless popularity drops. I mean it wouldn't be a good series to release in graphic novel format only because the tanks come out so slow in Japan that it could risk hurting the fan base over here.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

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What happened with Kinnikuman Nisei? Other than the lack of promotion compared to other Jump titles I mean?

Considering that the series was rather censored at first (it was a Weekly Playboy series toned down for Jump audiences even if it was SJA) and the anime sort of was fading into the BG of notability as the manga started up...let alone not too many aside those who loved Nisei or were getting into Kinnikuman (and that the original Kinnikuman never really came out here in any way shape or form aside the M.U.S.C.L.E. toys of the past), it sort of faded away to the BG. Sure it's still being released and is way less censored, but now there's only about 2 or 3 volumes released a year...let alone no sign Viz is going to go into the Tag arc still running in Playboy. (which actually adds a subtitle and restarts the numbering at "1" even if it's still the same story)

Though I would actually love it if they did maybe do older Jump series in some form in the US, it seems they sort of got really less obsessed in releasing stuff after most of it really just faded away and only focused on stuff like a restart of Slam Dunk. I sort of frown on how much history is still being ignored, I guess it just never makes sense in a sales manner unless they do it right. (whether it be a Vertical-style release...or maybe do KochiKame in a manner of a "greatest hits" release akin to Oshinbo's been getting as of late since that's still going even if it's from the mid-70s to today)

 

[Kaiten]

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Hatsukoi wasn't really a failure, was it? I thought it had a regular, planned ending - and it got an anime on top of that. But even with that, it looks like there's a bad trend for fall series. I hope we don't see anything particularly interesting in the next batch of new series (that, or the cycle breaks this year).

Popular enough for a posthumous anime, at least. Hard to call that failure. And I agree; not canceled but a planned ending. Considering she started to resolving the various plots a good 15 chapters before it ended, then ended it with no loose ends, I find it hard to believe it was canceled.

 

[coinanmat]

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If you want to talk about a manga that was a failure, Tite Kubo's Zombie Powder takes the cake because it only had 4 volumes and then it was canceled. I guess that was a good thing though because his next series, Bleach, became a international smash hit.

 

[Digital_Eon]

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If you want to talk about a manga that was a failure, Tite Kubo's Zombie Powder takes the cake because it only had 4 volumes and then it was canceled. I guess that was a good thing though because his next series, Bleach, became a international smash hit.

That's a much bigger hit than the series that didn't last longer than eight or nine chapters.

 

[SSJWill4]

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In past ten years, almost all of the new series in fall didn't do very well. The longest one in fall series (except Naruto and Beshari Gurashi) is P2!, which lasted about one year. I wonder fall series in this year going to be another failure again, or have a successful series. I mostly want to be failed because current ongoing series are really good, and I don't want to see any of them to be axed. So, I really don't mind if new fall series going to a pillow for current series.

Interesting data, but I look at it just as a coincidence. Dragon Quest Dai appeared in Issue 45 of 1989 and Yu-Gi-Oh in Issue 42 of 1996, and those series became very popular. Just because there hasn't been a fall series that has become a mega hit recently doesn't mean we should write off these new series as automatic failures. I'm sure Shueisha isn't.

 

[Sloggett]

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Great news that both Toriko and Bakuman are licensed. Although it was kind of a given that Viz got some new sjump series on board.

Following series have just finished up for viz or are about to:
Black Cat (Last Vol Out Now)
Dr. Slump (Last Vol. Out Now)
Dragon Drive (Last Vol. Out Now)
Kurohime (Nov 09)
Whistle! (Jan 2010)
Nora (Feb 2010)
Saint Seiya (Feb 2010)
YuYu Hakusho (March 2010)

You also have series like 'Muhyo & Roji's Bureau of Supernatural Investigation' and 'Hikaru no Go' with a few volumes left.

Not to forget that some of their main series have now caught up with the Japanese releases which means months with out new volumes of their big series on shelf.

HunterXHunter and Naruto have already caught up and D Gray Man will have caught up by mid next year. So Viz really need some new big series.

Shaman King, Eyeshield 2, Hoshin Engi and a few others are nearing their ends soon too.So I wouldn't be surprised if we have some more announcements come early/mid next year. My bets are on Nero, Psyren and Mago. But I guess only time will tell.

 

[Kaiten]

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Mago, Psyren, To Love Ru, and Sket Dance sound reasonable for current series, Neuro for completed. I'd like to see Rookies imported but American companies are real skittish about bringing sports manga and delinquent manga.

 

[coinanmat]

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Well if Yu Yu Hakasho will be finished early next year then we could see one of those new series taking its place in the English Jump magazine.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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So, is a person who uploads the bottom 5 called ◆EizHb38XPU? If it is right, then he/she already upload the bottom 5 issue 36, and it looks like it is true because people in 2ch saying it is true. So, if others want to know, just let me know. Also, I give you two information, even spoiler is true or not, Akaboshi rises one spot again and Mago is getting a drama cd.

 

[kewl0210]

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Yeah, that person's listen on the top couple posts as a Shou Neta person.
小ネタ
・36ドベ５　とら、黒子、赤星、ぬらり、めだか
36
Medaka
Nurari
Akaboshi
Kuroko
ToRa

・37･8巻頭ＯＰ　Ｃ金未来Ｃ31P黒子、ぬらり
37-38[It's a double issue thing]
Opening Color OP
Color Golden Future Cup, C31 Pages Kuroko, Nurarihyon
・ぬらりドラマCD化
Nurarihyon Drama CD Version


Commenting... The bottom five makes sense. Medaka I guess isn't going to get anywhere high. Though maybe it'll survive. And the fact that they're pressing for bonus pages and color pages with Kuroko means they want it to survive, maybe?
And yeah, Drama CD for Nurarihyon no Mago, that's good. People often say it "leads to an anime later". Perhaps the same as Sket Dance, it'll end up there after 120~ chapters.

 

[Kaiten]

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Mago drama CD makes up for dropping back to the bottom five. I guess Mago has an anime coming sometime between October and April!

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Thanks for the info, I thought it was a real. It looks like Akaboshi might not going to get axe because it is rising one by one. Medaka is in same spot as last week, but it didn't drop, so I think Medaka is still safe.

Kuroko is getting 31 pages and colour. Is Mago also getting a 31 pages, too, or just colour? Even it is not, I'm happy that Mago finally getting another colour, also happy about drama cd. Mago is getting one step closer to becoming animation.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Ugh looks like they are going to try to inject some life into Kuroko. It is even below Akaboshi this time. Good lord let it just die like the sub-par series it is already. -__-

Been a few weeks since Mago was in the bottom 5 but I'm curious about which chapter it was that broke its streak and what it focused on. Nice to see it with a Drama CD coming though. It hasn't had color in forever either.

First time in a while we haven't seen Gintama or Bakuman in the basement.

And Medaka once again barely makes it in the bottom. Just to rise 1 or 2 spots is all I ask of it so death isn't obvious like with Akaboshi. Really do hope it can survive long enough to see if it can do better with Tank sales. >.>

 

[M-Hario]

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Mago CD Drama... it couldn't be better.

 

[Drmke]

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C'mon Akaboshi, just another spot or two and you might not die so young!!

Kuroko just needs to be let go though. I mean giving color pages to a series the week after it hits bottom is retarded.

But the Mago color/extra pages thing is freaking sweet.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Kuroko just dropped to bottom 5 because the ranking is based on the chapter, conclusion of Seihou arc. and beginning of Shuutoku arc. So Kuroko might increase again.

Also, I want to know that Kutoko is getting 31 pages, but not colour page, so is Kuroko getting ranked or unranked?

I'm happy to see Akaboshi is rising. This series is getting too good to be cancelled.

 

[Drmke]

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Kuroko just dropped to bottom 5 because the ranking is based on the chapter, conclusion of Seihou arc. and beginning of Shuutoku arc. So Kuroko might increase again.

Also, I want to know that Kutoko is getting 31 pages, but not colour page, so is Kuroko getting ranked or unranked?

I'm happy to see Akaboshi is rising. This series is getting too good to be cancelled.

Well the series has been in the bottom five for a long time now. IT only moved out for what, one week last week i think?

Jump is doing what they did with Bokke-san. Try to pimp a dying series. It may still make it, but things are looking bleak for it.