Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Crude]

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Hokenshitsu didn't strike me as much of a shounen series. It did have a battle towards the end of the one-shot, but overall it felt like a horror-comedy with shounen elements.

 

[Kaiten]

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I have a hunch it will be a mix of school life, action, and super natural. Shonens not really a genre, it's a target audience. While Neuro felt like it was being written for someone else, a very subversive feel Gintama also has, Hokenshitsu feels very much like something targeting teenagers. At least from the perspective of someone who has outgrown Young Jump's target audience

 

[Crude]

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I agree that it does seem to be more teen oriented than the other two you mentioned. I'm hoping it's better than the one-shot seeing as that could get boring after a while.

 

[Kaiten]

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I can't remember if I've said it before so I'll say it again

There are plenty of series based on one shots far worse then Hokenshitsu. Bleach, Naruto, and D. Gray Man all had horrific pilots. Death Notes was pretty bad, now that I think about it. While my expectations aren't to high, I'll read it with an open mind.

 

[M-Hario]

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#41 HQ cover scanned by [Ju-Ni]Vicissitude:

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Added!!~ Kaiten.Sama

 

[Koen]

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Thanks to viccisitude

Spoiler: preview page

ToC

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I'm going really confused which series going to axe on next round. Medaka is getting bland and kind of rushing toward the ending, Kagijin had been boring after chapter 1 but it got better since chapter 7, and Wajimania going to die for sure. I always hope that Kagijin dies to protect Medaka, but after reading both series' recent chapters, I'm hoping Kagijin survives instead of Medaka.

 

[SameOld]

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I didn't see any improvement at all in Kagijin's chapter 7. It's still as crappy as ever. And what makes you think Medaka is rushing towards the ending? I haven't read this week's chapter yet, but last week's one did introduce a lot of new characters, so I don't see it ending anytime soon.

 

[ruggia]

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tried to read the ToC page but all i could see was that Akaboshi volume 1 is coming out on October.

Medaka Box is getting worse and worse.
i never really felt Kagijn to be bad though...

 

[coinanmat]

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I have lost intrest in Medaka as well as Kagijin. Both series I thought were cool when they started but I think they have lost some of that apeal. Kagijin might be able to hang on for the rest of the year but there's a good chance Medaka could be canceled.
@ruggia, I bet if Akaboshi vol. 1's sales are not that good, there could be a strong possiblity that Shonen Jump might cancel that series. I liked Akaboshi when it first came out but now its kinda meh.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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We still don't know whether Medaka going to be cancel or not. But, it is definite that Kagijin is better than Medaka on this week.

 

[coinanmat]

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Medaka will probably survive for the rest of the year as well as Kagijin but I think Akaboshi is doomed.
On another note, Im glad to see Bleach has a high rating as well as GinTama.

 

[SameOld]

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Medaka will probably survive for the rest of the year as well as Kagijin but I think Akaboshi is doomed.

Didn't you see this week's ToC? It won't be doomed just because you don't like it. Get over it.

But, it is definite that Kagijin is better than Medaka on this week.

No it's not. I'm not saying Medaka isn't going through a bad arc right now, but Kagijin was and still is the worst thing in the mag, hands down.

 

[coinanmat]

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I never said that, what I said was Kagijin will probably survive for the rest of the year. I never said that it was doomed. I am well aware of the ratings. Thats for issue 41, that's not saying its rating could drop for issue 42.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Kagijin has been bland since Chapter 2 and has not been better than Medaka or recent Akaboshi. I don't think its the worst series in the mag, but it is definitely in the bottom tier.

Akaboshi has improved somewhat with recent chapters but I need to see more before I believe it actually is worthy of living. It is another fish in a sea of battle manga.

I think Medaka Box's problem is that it jumps all over the place too fast. It has battle elements, school life elements, and ecchi elements. Once it manages to balance those aspects out I think it will be able to rise.

 

[Kaiten]

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Out of curiosity, is anyone else interested at all in the two new series? Considering there was just a cut, unless HxH comes back soon, nothing else will end until the last week of November I'm far more interested in what's coming then going.

Raws for Hokenshitsu are out. It looks like he did change a little from the one shot. Definitely looks interesting. The art for chapter one was outstanding. I'm very curious about Lilienthal; it looks odd but in an interesting way. It doesn't look like a typical Jump series, usually a sign of quality.

 

[ruggia]

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well, i read Hokenshitsu, and i actually liked it a lot better than the oneshot.
the mangaka seems to have decided to make some changes to the characters.
it wasn't that bad. nothing outstanding, but pretty solid, and definetly better than the oneshot. it could get interesting if the characters develop and more plot comes along. so i think i'll keep reading this one.

Liliental..... i still don't plan on reading it, but i might take a peek when it comes out.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Out of curiosity, is anyone else interested at all in the two new series? Considering there was just a cut, unless HxH comes back soon, nothing else will end until the last week of November I'm far more interested in what's coming then going.

Raws for Hokenshitsu are out. It looks like he did change a little from the one shot. Definitely looks interesting. The art for chapter one was outstanding. I'm very curious about Lilienthal; it looks odd but in an interesting way. It doesn't look like a typical Jump series, usually a sign of quality.

Hokenshitsu hasn't grabbed me whatsoever even after seeing the raw.

Lilienthal has caught my eye slightly but I'll wait for the raw/scans first before I make any judgment calls on its quality.

Although I still get the vibe of "cannon fodder" from them both like I did Hoop Men.

 

[Kaiten]

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The one shot of Lilienthal actually looked decent, like there was some potential for lulz. If it's translated it can't hurt to try it. I'm not looking for the greatest manga of all time from Hokenshitsu, just something entertaining. Since chapter one looks like a rewrite of the one shot, I have a feeling it will read more like a prologue. I'll at least give it a volumes worth of chapters before I judge

With new series I feel like there is no harm in trying them even if they just look okay. A chapter of manga takes ten minutes or to read and since there's no back chapters to catch up on theirs no harm in trying. If a series sucks it can be dropped.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

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Looks like there is no OP next week: it's not listed in the "next time" listing anywhere. I know that this happens all the time but it always seems to get pulled at one of those climactic moments.