Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Digital_Eon]

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From what I've heard, Togashi works alone with no assistants at all. That and he has an illness I hear.

Technically, an addiction to video games IS a (mental) illness...

With so many new series doing badly this year, though, I can't see Jump only kicking out two of them - though tank sales will probably be the deciding factor, and we'll see those in a few weeks. New Years' debuts get a lot of attention, don't they?

 

[BBB Banana]

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How old is Hunter x Hunter's author? Sorachi once was addicted to Monster Hunter LOL but fortunately it never interfered with it's manga production (he even did an arc based on that).

 

[y A M A T O]

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well,obata is coloring his drawings quite
though the drawings from bakuman are a huge step back!!!!death note's art and the art of the previous manga he drew were thousand times better,bakuman's art is still good,but not as excellent as before....

i don't think so. my point of view: the style of Bakuman is completely different than DN's one. DN is aesthetic, Bakuman is expressive (in fact, he has plenty of different drawing techniques)

 

[Crude]

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About Bakuman's art, it's not that Obata has worsened after Death Note, it's just that he's going with a different style, one that's more suitable for the lighthearted story. While Death Note's art can be seen as more realistic and better aesthetically, like it was said in the post above, Bakuman is a whole lot more expressive (maybe too much at times ).

 

[Kaiten]

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With so many new series doing badly this year, though, I can't see Jump only kicking out two of them - though tank sales will probably be the deciding factor, and we'll see those in a few weeks. New Years' debuts get a lot of attention, don't they?

QFT^ By my count there have been seven new series since May. Only two series from 2009 have been canceled to make room for them, three for the whole year (Meister, Bokkesan, Hoopmen). Hoopmen was the last 2009 series to end, back in late June. Otherwise (more or less) established series have been ending; Asklepios, Neuro, D. Gray Man, Eyeshield 21, and To Love Ru. That has left nine series less than a year old currently in the magazine. Of those virtually all of Medaka, Akaboshi, and Kagijin's chapters have been in the bottom five while we have to wait and see with Waji. Rilienthal and Hokenshitsu are to new to judge. Ane Doki is middling but with at least three 2009 series below it safe. Beelzebub and Kuroko are both rising hits. As I see it there will be anywhere from three to six series doing poorly enough to cancel. In my opinion there is more likely to be four new series in December than two. Don't count on volume sales to salvage anything; Medaka and Akaboshi will both have a volume out before cuts but that won't help unless one of them sells like volume one of Toriko. That's what would be necesairy to overcome such atrocious fan polling, proof that one of the two is a lock future best seller.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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With the success of 2008 series (Psyren, Mago, Toriko, Bakuman, Inumaru) and 2009 series (Kuroko, Beelzebub, Ane Dokii), I'm not sure whether their going to be enough rooms for 2010 series.

 

[ruggia]

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so the ones that have a chance of getting replaced right now are Waji, Medaka, Kagijin, Akaboshi. The ones that will join the competition later are Lilienthal and Hokenshitsu..... there still lot of room for replacements in my opinion.

feels like there will be lot of new series coming and going next year. and i don't think Psyren is going to be that safe on 2010.....

about Bakuman and Death Note art, they both fit the mood and style of their respective mangas very well. but i prefer Bakuman art a lot better.
the artist seems to be constantly changing his style for each of his hit mangas. (Hikaru no go, DN, Bakuman)

 

[SameOld]

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With the success of 2008 series (Psyren, Mago, Toriko, Bakuman, Inumaru) and 2009 series (Kuroko, Beelzebub, Ane Dokii), I'm not sure whether their going to be enough rooms for 2010 series.

Ane Dokii isn't guaranteed as a success yet. It had pretty much the same reception as Medaka Box for its first few chapters, and look where Medaka is now. Psyren has never been 100% safe and still isn't; a few months in the bottom 5 are still a good reason to cancel it, since its volume sales are nothing to brag about. Inumaru isn't exactly what one would call a success either; if it stays on the bottom 5 for long, being the worst seller in the mag, it would become the number one candidate to get axed. Not that I see this happening anytime soon but who knows.

I still believe Waji has failed and its ToC placements don't matter anymore. There's no way in hell Kagijin will get out of the last place before the next season of cuts comes around; these two are as good as dead. Now the question is whether Medaka, Akaboshi or even one of the newcomers will be the third one to die.

 

[Drmke]

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I kinda agree that there is a good chance Wajima is a failure though I have no proff and it could be a huge hit for all I know....I'm just guessing here

I think Kagijin is going no matter how many new ones come in...unless a miracle happens. And of if four new series come in....well goodbye almost every new series from '09.

 

[SameOld]

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I'm more worried about the series that are gonna debut, rather than the ones that are gonna go (unless Akaboshi has to go, that is). I'm crossing my fingers for a new sports series that steals the spotlight and all the pimping from Kuroko. If Kuroko isn't the last remnant of the sports genre in the mag anymore, a few weeks in the bottom will be enough to kill it, regardless of volume sales (for now at least; once it reaches the 100k mark, it's pretty much safe, but as long as that doesn't happen, it's NOT completely safe).

 

[Kaiten]

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Ane Doki has been in the bottom five once since it debuted. Medaka has only been out of the bottom five three times. Akaboshi has only been out once. Kagijin has yet to get out. Ane Doki may never be a hit but those three will certainly protect it when the next cuts come.

I'm not ready to write off Waji yet. Every single time there is a new gag or comedy series every body who posts in this thread, then and now, immediately assume it will be canceled, if it's not they assume it's being pimped. Yusah, Sket Dance, Poseidon, Inumaru, and now Waji have all been written off before chapter ten. Poseidon is the only one, so far, canceled after one volume. Let's wait and see with Waji. I brought it up earlier as it really is hard to tell how new gag are doing. Come November it really could be canceled, but there is just as good a chance it has a wrong run.

Gag manga don't sell as much as other genres. Inumaru has only had one volume released. Shueisha is expecting it to grow into a strong seller by gag standards not by One Piece standards. Going by that benchmark it could sell as well as Jaguar someday. It is here to stay.

 

[kewl0210]

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Inumaru has 2 released and the third one comes out pretty soon, actually...

But yeah, doesn't sell much.

 

[Crude]

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I know Psyren doesn't sell much compared to other Jump series, but what about series from other magazines? Doesn't it sell better than a lot of Magazine and Sunday series (not the more popular ones though)?

 

[SameOld]

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I know Psyren doesn't sell much compared to other Jump series, but what about series from other magazines? Doesn't it sell better than a lot of Magazine and Sunday series (not the more popular ones though)?

Its sales are equivalent to a middle tier Magazine or Sunday series. Not too expressive even for their standards.

 

[salam-daim]

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the second chapter for Kashikoi Ken Lilenthal
here

from heiji-sama

 

[jose]

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No TOC today?

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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Wow, the toc's really late

 

[Kaiten]

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Please do not spam the thread in regards to the bottom five. As soon as it is available someone will post it. In the meantime please be patient

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Well, this was late.

594 ： ◆EizHb38XPU ：2009/09/21(月) 12:44:48 ID:uuv/5DmNO
おまっとさん
小ネタ
・44ドベ６　鍵、めだか、PSY、姉、わじま、赤星
・45巻頭リボ＜4号連続カラー扉＆スクープだとか
　Ｃ姉、PSY

Issue 44=Bottom 6

Akaboshi
Wajima
Ane Dokii
Psyren
Medaka
Kagijin

Issue 45
Lead CP: Reborn (going to have 4 colours on a row!! + I think Reborn is having a big announcement)
CP: Ane Dokii, Psyren

I'm happy that Akaboshi rises. But Medaka returns to its place again.

Also, I think Wajima is unranked series because when koneta showed bottom 6 instead of bottom 5, there are one series that are unranked, like Kochikame.

 

[Magicoreo]

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Well Psyren fans will be delighted to hear about this... About the color pages, the ranking, maybe not so much.
I couldn't really get into it even though I read up to what, chapter 71? Should I get back to reading it? I'd have to say it was a bit entertaining...

Akaboshi escapes. Whoosh~

Ane Dokii getting another color? I enjoy the series but it's been in the bottom five for a while, isn't this a bit too much?