Where They Are & Why Kuma Threw Them There

[Akainu]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

Nami
Destination: get's a new weapon, because the other one brock

it broke? I may have missed that so would you please link me there?

usopp
destination: get a new weapon and cry about the fact that hey lost his nakama.

you really think he would cry? well I think a bit like Luffy did before he was sent flying but reading your post I got the image that Usopp is a weakling, right?

Robin
Destination: Back on ohara,

what would she do there? there should be not much (next to nothing) left of this island.

Brooke
Destination: by the whale

no.
I put it as simple as I could, because if he would meet Laboon now his dream would be fulfilled and his journey end.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

just 4 fun:

Zorro
Destination: shanks ship, he needs a place to rest and where would this be better then by a crew which get drunk all the time

Nami
Destination: undiscovered island yet, for her dream of the worldmap

sanji
destination: on a island with rare animalspecies for cooking

usopp
destination: elbaf :/ where else?

Chopper
destination: by vegapunk or a hospital because of his monster form

Robin
Destination: by dragon, because she is the smartest and knows the history, that would be a nice time for some backgroundinformation

Franky
Destination: supermarket for cola

Brooke
Destination: back on the ghostship from the rumbapirates

 

[daisekihan]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

Of all the places they possibly could be, the only one that I can come up with a decent guess for is Chopper. If we assume the Oda hasn't decided to kill Chopper off, Kuma couldn't have pushed him farther than an hour or two away from Sabaody---if he did, Chopper's life force would have been eaten up by his Monster form.

 

[bittman]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

It's One Piece, so I doubt it by any standard. Oda could easily throw up a blowhole/knock-up stream thing in the way or, the interesting alternative, Chopper could learn to at least get out of it mid-flight (some level of control there).

I doubt all the destinations are meaningful to the Strawhat's. In much the same way that Luffy has been lucky with many of the people he meets and places he goes, this is also just a factor of luck....but that said I still think Kuma has a purpose. I doubt the purpose is "Make the Strawhat's an invincible force" but rather "throw the world into a bit of chaos". If Hancock V Luffy was the possible result of one sending, who knows what plans Kuma had for the others. I wouldn't put it past him sending one to Impel Down to reinforce Luffy when he eventually learns of Ace's predicament, etc.

If we go by a "shake shake the world" theory instead of "Where would you like to go?" which is the usual question, possible locations could be:
* Straight to Fishman Island - rally some pirates right under the marines nose
* Impel Down - cause chaos in the marine stronghold
* Holy Land (on top of Red Line) - Ace's execution + Tenryuubito
* Location of another major power (i.e. a Yonkou or another Shichibukai) - same affect as what Luffy is doing now, detouring them from the battle.

Who knows really? The dream idea is nice, but by that token Luffy would have whipped around the grand line and intercepted all his nakama and automatically have taken them back to Shabondy with Peter Pan music.

 

[daisekihan]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

I doubt the purpose is "Make the Strawhat's an invincible force" but rather "throw the world into a bit of chaos".

I don't think Kuma wants to throw the world into chaos...actually, the opposite. I think he wants to preserve the current balance between the the three great powers and sees the impending Whitebeard vs. Shichibukai fight as a threat to that. I think it's at least within the realm of possibility that he sent the Strawhats out to delay the other shichibukai from reaching Mariejois. The SH's can probably die for all he cares, as long as they delay them long enough to let Whitebeard's men take Ace back without a fight. Of course, the WG will be humiliated, but at least the balance will be preserved and an all out World War between the three powers won't break out.

 

[Fox666]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

Hmm, good point. But... wouldn't that mean Zoro fight with Mihawk is close? =P
Doflamingo is in a tropical island, Jimbei may be in Gyojin Island, Moria is in that little boat...

 

[bittman]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

Well technically, Moria was in a little boat a week or two ago (possibly more?).

Good point daisekihan, that was what I wanted to get at. Not throw the world in chaos, keep the balance. But by the same token, Kuma could shake things up much better by sending some others. He doesn't know the Strawhat's that well personally, so what sort of guarentee are 9 pirates compared to the risk of taking them from under Kizaru's nose?

 

[toxun]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

Maybe Kuma doesn't know them personally, but maybe he know their background (except for Brook I guess) as Zoro said Marine has a good intel network. And Kuma knew Zoro ambition personally. My wonder now is he also predict the current outcome that Hancock will aid Luffy? If that so, is he doing it for balance of power? Or did he doing it to make Hancock to respond WG calls? WG maybe know Hancock background & Kuma doing it on purpose.

 

[daisekihan]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

Kuma told Moria that part of the reason he was sent out is because the WG figured the SHs might run into him and he might be in trouble---that is, they seem to cause a lot of problems for the members of the organization. He also knows that Mihawk has some kind of personal interest in them. So, if I were looking for someone to delay the rest of the Shichibukai, I think the SH's would be be decent candidates.

As to how he planned to get away with it: how did he get away with not bringing back 8 Strawhat corpses after Thriller Bark? It's like he says: he's under no obligation act as a government agent. And if they ask him to justify getting in the way of their capture of a guy who punched a Tenryuubito, he could just say that was a manner unrelated to their crimes as pirates.

 

[toxun]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

Chap. 523 Raw out, and I can't stop laughing at it. Oda sensei is master of combining seriousness & hilarious things . Seem Kuma send them to bring trouble to them according to their quirk. Nami meet a freaking alchemist who study weather control, Franky land on cyborg island, and hahahahahaha Sanji hahahahaha land and hahahahaha place almost everybody guess hahahahaha

 

[gao_dargon]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

i dont think we are supposed to talk about resent chapters, you have to wait till next week so we can discuss about them

 

[Yabe]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

The chapter was released on Wednesday, 2 days earlier than the regular date (Friday) this week. It's been about 3 days now so you guys can start the discussion that's related to the current chapter outside the chapter discussion thread. Toxun's post was just made visible for that cause.

 

[gao_dargon]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

ok cool, then i think everyone was sent there to get a powerup, but how is Sanji gonna get stronger¿? runing away from all those okamas should make his legs alot stronger hahahahahahaha

 

[kkck]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

^That probably will be the case lol. WOnder if the okamas can seriously do something to improve sanji's power...
If you think about it, this is a very emotional time for sanji, and we know haki can show itself from emotions. Maybe the horror sanji is experiecing right now will make him realise he can use haki. Maybe in a burts of horror he will knock everyone unconciuous with his haki lol.

 

[rhysno1]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

hmm ive got a theory did anyone think that maybe kuma can send people through time and if so i think without a doubt he will meet ryuuma but if not i still have hope he goes to the birthplace of ryuuma
i think maybe sanji could have an encounter with bon clay and if not this is certainly somewhere hes been before
i think choppers monster point isnt complete you see i beleve that he has all form going but brain point and his animal insticnt is in control and if he gains control he will be as formidable as luffy
i reckon what everyone is thinking franky wise
hmm i can really imagine where brook is... hmm??
ussop i do think hes in elbaf home of giants and this trip will have huge personality changes instoor for him
hmm robin maybe a secret society for poneglif( really a sorry i cant spell)

but knowing one piece i cant wait to find out im hugely wrong and have a huge funny actiony story line

 

[bittman]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

Well from my guesses and what we've seen so far:
* Luffy: Haki + tool to save Ace
* Nami: Weather Island to help develop her skills as a navigator.
* Franky: Future tech island to help develop his shipwright skills (Battle Franky #whatnumberareweuptonow?)
* Sanji: Might actually be able to hit a girl after this? Or on the other hand, he becomes too accustomed to them and is unable to hit a man XD

And for those who haven't landed with two guesses that they are both not far from Shabondy, and not in the New World:
* Zoro: The medical island. Close to Water7, and thus not far out from Shabondy. Will help him get over his current weakness quickly, and might be able to repair his body to a degree from large amounts of damage he has received that time alone cannot heal.
* Ussop: NOT ELBAF! Luffy has to visit it imo, and I want the giant captains to make a comeback also. I could see him landing on something like Jaya, where it's the law of the strong, but lawless.
* Robin: Though a poleglyph is a high possibility, anything relating to intelligence or history would be good. Maybe a way to find them, or a list would also be good.
* Chopper: medical island also? I doubt they are all on the same island, so perhaps an island of animals. Chopper can talk to animals, but we rarely see him use this to effect, so this would also be good. Something chemistry related would be my best guess. An island of cherry blossoms would be simply poetic and tearful though.
* Brooke: Anything adventurous. It's been decades since he's been anywhere, so any place with interest and a keen sense of humor would be great for him.

 

[gao_dargon]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

hmm ive got a theory did anyone think that maybe kuma can send people through time and if so i think without a doubt he will meet ryuuma but if not i still have hope he goes to the birthplace of ryuuma
i think maybe sanji could have an encounter with bon clay and if not this is certainly somewhere hes been before
i think choppers monster point isnt complete you see i beleve that he has all form going but brain point and his animal insticnt is in control and if he gains control he will be as formidable as luffy
i reckon what everyone is thinking franky wise
hmm i can really imagine where brook is... hmm??
ussop i do think hes in elbaf home of giants and this trip will have huge personality changes instoor for him
hmm robin maybe a secret society for poneglif( really a sorry i cant spell)

but knowing one piece i cant wait to find out im hugely wrong and have a huge funny actiony story line

i dont think this is a posibility cuz if it were, then how are they going to come back? just waiting??

 

[RicardoKloss]

Re: Where are there & Why they're there thrown by Kuma

I believe they were trown by kuma due to dragon's influence, I don know if you do remember but he mentioned dragon when he said his son had loyal friends

 

[SpaceDBadger]

Re: One Piece 529 Discussion/530 Predictions

Welcome adises, yes i agree with that.....

Wow I'm a real idiot, with the exception of Zoro, and i guess Sanji, everyone is where they would love to go....
Nami is in a cloud island that is all about studying weather and such, plus the guy has obvious inventions to improve her climatact.....
Franky is at the home of Vegepunk and will obviously been surrounded with devices to upgrade himself exponentially......
Sanji.....well i guess you could say he's in a place where he can get over his fear of fighting woman.....
Ussopp, well he's in a jungle with a man whois obviously a "true warrior" and is surrounded by constant danger, so hopefully he'll get over his fear of everything and get stronger, plus I'm guessing there is going to be a devil fruit around so he can upgrade his weapon......
Bones, well he's on an island where everyone is going to listen to his every order and be treated like a god rather than a devil, well kinda, i can't really figure out what his powerup would be though....
Nico, is in one of the only places in the world where there is massive torture, in other words she won't be considered a devil either just another slave and will have to get over her nature to only look out for herself (and now the SH) and I'm sure will inevitably free all the other slaves, can't really see the powerup, i think it's more a mental thing with her........
Chopper, is in the island of animals, so i'm sure he's somehow going to bridge the gap between animals and humans by being able to talk to both creatures....i think there is a trend here which that characters who already possess a df aren't going to get a powerup like the others, the df users, ie nico, chopper and bones will just get mental powerups so to speak....
And finally Zoro,well like i said i can't really figure his side story out....i'm sure he'd been sent somewhere he can get stronger, but i can't imagine how ths place will help that...any ideas.....

Ok well I'm sure this was obvious to most ppl a long time ago but a thought I'd opinionated them hehe....i said this long post because i think Oda is going to do another flash back of the other SH soon and i think the story will have progressed in this manner....

 

[fastfonz]

Re: One Piece 529 Discussion/530 Predictions

Welcome adises, yes i agree with that.....

Wow I'm a real idiot, with the exception of Zoro, and i guess Sanji, everyone is where they would love to go....
Nami is in a cloud island that is all about studying weather and such, plus the guy has obvious inventions to improve her climatact.....
Franky is at the home of Vegepunk and will obviously been surrounded with devices to upgrade himself exponentially......
Sanji.....well i guess you could say he's in a place where he can get over his fear of fighting woman.....
Ussopp, well he's in a jungle with a man whois obviously a "true warrior" and is surrounded by constant danger, so hopefully he'll get over his fear of everything and get stronger, plus I'm guessing there is going to be a devil fruit around so he can upgrade his weapon......
Bones, well he's on an island where everyone is going to listen to his every order and be treated like a god rather than a devil, well kinda, i can't really figure out what his powerup would be though....
Nico, is in one of the only places in the world where there is massive torture, in other words she won't be considered a devil either just another slave and will have to get over her nature to only look out for herself (and now the SH) and I'm sure will inevitably free all the other slaves, can't really see the powerup, i think it's more a mental thing with her........
Chopper, is in the island of animals, so i'm sure he's somehow going to bridge the gap between animals and humans by being able to talk to both creatures....i think there is a trend here which that characters who already possess a df aren't going to get a powerup like the others, the df users, ie nico, chopper and bones will just get mental powerups so to speak....
And finally Zoro,well like i said i can't really figure his side story out....i'm sure he'd been sent somewhere he can get stronger, but i can't imagine how ths place will help that...any ideas.....

Ok well I'm sure this was obvious to most ppl a long time ago but a thought I'd opinionated them hehe....i said this long post because i think Oda is going to do another flash back of the other SH soon and i think the story will have progressed in this manner....

Unlike others.. I feel Zoro didnt need to go to an island to get stronger.. but to fully recover.. Having survived the exchange of pain from Luffy to him in Thriller Bark surely made him stronger.. will wise.. Zoro, like Luffy, to me has been awakening their own haki. Zoro has that demon aura thing going.. I feel Zoro has already been upgraded he just hasnt recovered yet. Is like going to the gym breaking your muscle fibers and not waiting to recover before working those muscles again.. Zoro just need to rest..

While thats realistic.. this is a manga.. so maybe he will power up there and he is already recovered.. but I think he just needs to rest.

Plus Perona was taking care of him (bandages and took the swords away). - Maybe he will exercise his fourth sword and make a baby.