Invel just freeze his attacks.
The attacks Natsu used against Invel wasn't anything noteworthy. They were weak compared to the attacks Zeref has tanked. Zeref can tank Igneel's power at the very least. The bottom line is that Zeref's black magic took way more effort for Natsu to escape than Invel's ice did, and caused Natsu more damage in the process. It's more impressive.
I don't really care about Zeref's tanking feats because Invel's magic isn't something one can tank. You either get frozen or you don't and I do believe Zeref gets frozen. It might have taken longer for Natsu to escape Zeref's magic than Invel's but I don't think that matters because all Invel needs is one moment for the character to be off guard or frozen to ice lock the opponent. Furthermore, I don't see why Invel can't just freeze Zeref's black magic
First - insta freeze is INSTA freeze. Irene faster than instant?? And what if she can fly? Invel just freeze everything in few km radius.
Igneel's power doesn't make Natsu stronger. It's ability to kill immortal. And Zeref didn't took it, he said it himself that Natsu in that moment was can kill him.
... And Zeref only needs one moment to blow a hole in someone. Invel was getting kicked around by Gray's hand to hand when Gray got POF. Zeref can keep up with Igneel-powered Natsu in the skies.
It's not instant. Gray wasn't frozen in an instant. He was frozen gradually. Also, the ice armour freezes requires contact to freeze it's target. Dragon scales protects from anything that is not dragon slaying magic. If Natsu was able to gather his thoughts to melt the ice, then Irene can gather her thoughts to call in a meteor. It would shatter the ice, but apparently not her dragon scales (Irene's own words that her scales are superior to the meteor).
Zeref only managed to blow a hole in someone who wasn't expecting it. Just like Invel's ice lock it has no feats outside of a surprise attack. I don't see why Invel can't just freeze Zeref's black magic. FDKM gave Natsu Igneel's flames but was never stated to enhance his speed like dragon force does. Gray is in the same speed tier as Natsu. Otherwise Natsu would have dominated by blitzing him during their fight. And Invel was only blitzed once when he was surprised that Gray was still breathing
What are you saying?Did you even read the line where Zeref says that an immense magic power is coming from Natsu when he started using Igneel's power.
Igneel-powered Natsu and Zeref can do this. Invel doesn't have feats of this.
Invel's freeze casts instantly in several kilometres if he wants. And how long is Zeref's dark ray?
All characters said this in every meet with foes. It means nothing.
Not all characters say that.When he opened his bandage Zeref realised that an immense amount of magic power is coming from Natsu.That is Canon.
Power of feelings is just power from emotions. Zeref can draw power from his emotions as well. In fact, Invel literally said that the darkness in Gray's heart is the very same power that Zeref uses.
Slow ball from long distance. Too dangerous attack
Please, don't make me laugh with such stupid thing. Even Acnologia can't kill Zeref, and now peace of halfdead dragon soul became a GOD of universe
When was it stated that FDKM enhanced his speed instead of just giving him stronger flames? How do we know that Igneel powered Natsu is faster than partial END? The first hit Gray got was when Invel was curious about Gray's power. The second time Invel was surprised that Gray was alive when he got blitzed. Everything after that was Gray thrashing Invel because he got through his armor and not because Invel is slowIgneel-powered Natsu and Zeref can do this. Invel doesn't have feats of this.
Gray was kicking around Invel. He landed blows with his ice devil's zero longsword, and was basically kicking him around in hand to hand once he was POF enraged by Juvia's death. Gray also faced a version of Natsu that was much weaker than Igneel-powered version.
Uf debating is useless here.People are so biased against Zeref for obvious reasons.Zeref said that it is strange power. Nothing more. It is not mega power up like Etherion. It is one time used ability.
Slow ball from long distance. Too dangerous attack
Please, don't make me laugh with such stupid thing. Even Acnologia can't kill Zeref, and now peace of halfdead dragon soul became a GOD of universe
Read again. Zeref never said that Igneel's power was strange. Those are your words, not Zeref's. The ball covered the distance from Zeref to Natsu before Natsu recovered his balance from that punch. It's not slow.Zeref said that it is strange power. Nothing more. It is not mega power up like Etherion. It is one time used ability.
Slow ball from long distance. Too dangerous attack
Please, don't make me laugh with such stupid thing. Even Acnologia can't kill Zeref, and now peace of halfdead dragon soul became a GOF of universe
Because Natsu can dance around the sky like that with Igneel's power, but he hasn't been shown doing that without it. Even if you say Natsu can do that without Igneel's power, all that means is that Gray can maybe do that too. Invel outright can't. Invel is slower than Gray. With or without the demonic armour, Gray was kicking around Invel.
Both times he gets hit looks like because he is shocked that Gray is still living and Gray's change in power instead of because Invel is too slow to react to those attacks. Plus that one panel from Zeref vs Natsu doesn't really prove to me that FDKM is much faster than Natsu's other forms. Invel doesn't even need to go fist to fist with Zeref if his presence alone could freeze peopleBecause Natsu can dance around the sky like that with Igneel's power, but he hasn't been shown doing that without Igneel's power. Even if you say Natsu can do that without Igneel's power, all that means is that Gray can maybe do that too. Invel outright can't. Invel is slower than Gray. With or without the demonic armour, Gray was kicking around Invel.
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