Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[Fox666]

We have seen plenty of situations where Luffy has the final say. I.e. picking the most dangerous route on New World log pose.

 

[M3J]

There is no pecking order at all. When Luffy's not trying to be the captain, it's Nami that usually leads, at least when they need someone who knows how to navigate and stuff.

I think Luffy's way too laidback to be the captain all the time, and you can see that the only time he really gives out orders is when he wants to go somewhere dangerous or when it comes to fights. But otherwise the crew seems way too relaxed to really need a captain at all times, other than Nami.

Few posts ago.


But they're also still willing to argue with Luffy and challenge his authority a lot of times. Only time Nami's authority gets challenged is when she gets too greedy, but to be fair, Luffy gets challenged too whenever he wants to do something against common sense.

 

[ThatOtherGuy]

@M3J I think I need panels of Nami deciding stuff that has nothing to do with navigation or money, cause I don't remember that at all.

A vice captain or first mate is the captain's right hand man, and is usually someone who fullfils the role of captain while he's away. Luffy is a complete screw up when it comes to a lot of areas of expertise. He relies on Nami for navigation and money management. He relies on Sanji for cooking. He relies on Chopper for treatment. He relies on Franky for maintenance. He relies on Brook for entertainement. He relies on everyone for combat and using their respective talents to keep the ship afloat and everyone alive. None of these things make anyone the vice captain. So Nami, clearly not being a good substitute for Luffy on any level, isn't close to being first mate.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Zoro is such a badass that kaido has a laugh to imitate his nickname (worororo)

 

[King Moe]

Zoro is such a badass that kaido has a laugh to imitate his nickname (worororo)

That been debunked and old news. Obviously looking Zoro this arc he is more lororororo as his fights haven't been good to him at all.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Zoro will beat King this arc and then fight kaido with Luffy

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Zoro will beat King this arc and then fight kaido with Luffy

whoa! Use spoiler tag, dude!

 

[Pirate Queen]

Zoro will beat King this arc and then fight kaido with Luffy

I think this is the most obvious course for Zoro.

Katakuri took 11 hours to put down. Kaido's fight may realistically last a few days.... Zoro could defeat King, recover from his injuries, and them move on to help whoever is fighting the Yonko. I dont see him doing much more than cutting Kaido, but its something.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

I think this is the most obvious course for Zoro.

Katakuri took 11 hours to put down. Kaido's fight may realistically last a few days.... Zoro could defeat King, recover from his injuries, and them move on to help whoever is fighting the Yonko. I dont see him doing much more than cutting Kaido, but its something.

Yup i think it will go like that
Cutting Kaido is great and all but he needs a 1vs1 a la Mr1 first
I'm waiting to see him go all out

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Yup i think it will go like that
Cutting Kaido is great and all but he needs a 1vs1 a la Mr1 first
I'm waiting to see him go all out

after fighting kaido, zoro's title will be updated from bounty hunter to yonkou hunter

 

[Ice devil slayer]

after fighting kaido, zoro's title will be updated from bounty hunter to yonkou hunter

Would be amazing if that happens tbh

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

facts about oden:
strong swordsman
bad sense of direction
hot chick magnet

oden = zoro
we also know oden = chad
so, zoro = chad

 

[nik87]

And ANY of the Strawhats would have lost to Doflamingo at that point. His Parasite technique is that powerful

An easy thing for Zoro who would have made spaghetti of Doffy.
Just because Sanji was trashed it doesnt mean Zoro will be. One thing is to trash Sanji who is hype tool for others and another thing to trash Zoro who humiliates others.

 

[Pirate Queen]

An easy thing for Zoro who would have made spaghetti of Doffy.
Just because Sanji was trashed it doesnt mean Zoro will be. One thing is to trash Sanji who is hype tool for others and another thing to trash Zoro who humiliates others.

Which is why he couldn't cut through birdcage

No proof he could have even broke out of parasite so that's where this discussion ends

 

[nik87]

Which is why he couldn't cut through birdcage
No proof he could have even broke out of parasite so that's where this discussion ends

Yes, he couldnt cut Birdcage while Abdullah and Jeet have cut the exact same strings.
Yes, there is proof. Summon Asura and treat Parasite like the fodder move that it is.

 

[Shasha23]

And ANY of the Strawhats would have lost to Doflamingo at that point. His Parasite technique is that powerful

The problem is, Oda would never do that to Zoro, even if it was Zoro who went to save them he would have driven Doffy away, thats why Oda never made Doffy run into Zoro or Sabo because they would have beat him, thats why he made Fujitora step in between then and latter on he made Zoro go stop the cage and Sabo fight Jesus

 

[Pirate Queen]

The problem is, Oda would never do that to Zoro, even if it was Zoro who went to save them he would have driven Doffy away, thats why Oda never made Doffy run into Zoro or Sabo because they would have beat him, thats why he made Fujitora step in between then and latter on he made Zoro go stop the cage and Sabo fight Jesus

Right, me and you had a great discussion on this. Oda avoids putting Zoro in positions where he will get wrecked against serious arc villains because the last time that happened Enel wrecked him and since then Zoro has been coddled for the most part, as opposed to Sanji.

We have the Yeti Brother in Punk Hazard and Kill incident that shows Zoro could get handled pretty easily, but those are kind of one offs that I dont really count in relation to his characters strength.

But to your point. Oda would never have put Zoro in Sanji's position because Zoro's image would take a major hit.

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Yes, there is proof. Summon Asura and treat Parasite like the fodder move that it is.

Yet he didn't... because he was unable to.

Your always talking about a swordsman pride to cut through ANYTHING... so he is put up against an unbreakable attack and he just.... decides to push against it? Not cut it? An ELITE swordsman... CHOOSE not to cut something that he could " make spaghetti out of"

Does that make sense to everyone?

 

[nik87]

Yet he didn't... because he was unable to.

Didnt what? Unable to what? Cut the Birdcage? Show me a single panel where he tried to do that.

Your always talking about a swordsman pride to cut through ANYTHING... so he is put up against an unbreakable attack and he just.... decides to push against it? Not cut it? An ELITE swordsman... CHOOSE not to cut something that he could " make spaghetti out of"

Which named technique did he use to cut it? What comment did he make when he realized he cant cut it and how did he realize that he cant cut it?

 

[Pirate Queen]

Didnt what? Unable to what? Cut the Birdcage? Show me a single panel where he tried to do that.

Which named technique did he use to cut it? What comment did he make when he realized he cant cut it and how did he realize that he cant cut it?

Because he couldnt! What other reason could there be genius? He had a sharp pointy sword and he was up against string.

It's even worse on him of he didnt even attempt to cut it!

He. Couldn't. Cut. It.

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Zoro could make spaghetti out of Doflamingo, but all he could do was PUSH against STRINGS with he SWORDS

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Hell, he just cut a mountain in half... he didnt have anything left in the tank to cut strings?

 

[nik87]

Because he couldnt! What other reason could there be genius? He had a sharp pointy sword and he was up against string.
It's even worse on him of he didnt even attempt to cut it!

He. Couldn't. Cut. It.

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Zoro could make spaghetti out of Doflamingo, but all he could do was PUSH against STRINGS with he SWORDS

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Hell, he just cut a mountain in half... he didnt have anything left in the tank to cut strings?

Is that panel supposed to help your case? Because it is showing them pushing it, not trying to cut it.
Show me where he tries all sorts of named techniques or ultimate moves to cut it. Where did he say that he cant cut it?
There is no single instance which shows him trying so there is no proof that he cant.
On the other hand, there is proof that he can. Jeet and Abdullah have cut through Black Knight whose strings were used to form the Birdcage.
Now, unless you want to claim that Jeet and Abdullah are better at cutting than Zoro your case cant stand because Zoro is superior to them and you dont have a single proof that he tried cutting and failed.
And with that, this discussion ends.