Why would King nerf to fight someone on the ground? He is more aerial combatant from how he fights. Idk if Zoro YC given his injuries. He might be involve with Orochi side, but can't see him beating YC in his State.
Nothing to do with the fans. Idk why you bringing up Sanji when we talking about Zoro? Don't make Z vs S out of insecurity please.
How? Zoro quoted he wants revenge with Orochi for Yasu. Why wouldn't he go after him now that he has back? Nothing to do with biased. You should remember this, Pea.
Because Zoro will need 0.0006 seconds to deal with Orochi. He isn't a worthy opponent even for Zoro in his current condition.
Why would King nerf to fight someone on the ground? He is more aerial combatant from how he fights. Idk if Zoro YC given his injuries. He might be involve with Orochi side, but can't see him beating YC in his State.
Nothing to do with the fans. Idk why you bringing up Sanji when we talking about Zoro? Don't make Z vs S out of insecurity please.
Why would King nerf to fight someone on the ground? He is more aerial combatant from how he fights. Idk if Zoro YC given his injuries. He might be involve with Orochi side, but can't see him beating YC in his State.
Nothing to do with the fans. Idk why you bringing up Sanji when we talking about Zoro? Don't make Z vs S out of insecurity please.
Yeah, calling it "Zoro vs Orochi" is like calling an average human stomping on an ant "Human vs Ant". If anything it's a cute ironic title. I could honestly easily see Zoro, especially if Marco patches him up, witnessing some fucked-upness of King and doing an Asura attack to one-shot him. That's kind of how Zoro operates, and how OP sword battles go. Zoro tends to be able to take blows, his opponents get beat by Zoro's first hit on them.
Not a Sanji fan but this point I don't think it's impossible that Sanji fights King, and I had high hopes from the start of Onigashima, but I'm starting to realize that Oda has other plans for Sanji. Zoro vs King makes way more sense. First mate vs First mate as another poster has said. If anything I think Sanji should fight Queen, or Page One again.
Usually when someone tells you you're being insecure they're just projecting.
At this point I think Sanji would do best to go create a bunch of "Attack Cuisine" that he learned in Kamabakka Kingdom. He's made what, one of those?
Re: Zoro. I don't think he's fully done yet. He's always injured. This is the greatest injury he's ever had, probably, other than maybe the Hawkeye injury he took (relative to his strength at the time). I imagine he's going to have to overcome more challenges this arc.
feel like zoro's going to fight king now. The similarity of zoro and king in their counterpart of the rivalry with the other guy is uncanny, while sanji (and chopper, as seen on chapter 1007) fight queen as the other counterpart of the rivalry
Why would King nerf to fight someone on the ground? He is more aerial combatant from how he fights. Idk if Zoro YC given his injuries. He might be involve with Orochi side, but can't see him beating YC in his State.
Nothing to do with the fans. Idk why you bringing up Sanji when we talking about Zoro? Don't make Z vs S out of insecurity please.
Think for a second about what we have seen King do in fights:
- Attack with his beak from close quarters.
- Attack with his sword at close quarters.
What makes you think that's a bad matchup for Zoro? So far, his whole fighting style involves getting close to his enemy for all of his attacks. He probably has some long-range techniques, but his style clearly does not revolve around them. And, even then, so does Zoro.
Medical doesn't mean he be on good conditions to fight YC on his own though. Orochi can be challenging still given his body won't be taken out easy with now seeing his DF powers working.
True, but wouldn't compare opponents from them to level of YC which aren't going to be like fodders given you have to realize, King, Queen, and Jack haven't use Haki, Hybrid Form, and Awakening. In his conditions, I don't think can can solo them even if he patchup as injuries take time for healing especially damage from respective Yonkos give him.
Yeah, calling it "Zoro vs Orochi" is like calling an average human stomping on an ant "Human vs Ant". If anything it's a cute ironic title. I could honestly easily see Zoro, especially if Marco patches him up, witnessing some fucked-upness of King and doing an Asura attack to one-shot him. That's kind of how Zoro operates, and how OP sword battles go. Zoro tends to be able to take blows, his opponents get beat by Zoro's first hit on them.
Not a Sanji fan but this point I don't think it's impossible that Sanji fights King, and I had high hopes from the start of Onigashima, but I'm starting to realize that Oda has other plans for Sanji. Zoro vs King makes way more sense. First mate vs First mate as another poster has said. If anything I think Sanji should fight Queen, or Page One again.
Usually when someone tells you you're being insecure they're just projecting.
At this point I think Sanji would do best to go create a bunch of "Attack Cuisine" that he learned in Kamabakka Kingdom. He's made what, one of those?
Re: Zoro. I don't think he's fully done yet. He's always injured. This is the greatest injury he's ever had, probably, other than maybe the Hawkeye injury he took (relative to his strength at the time). I imagine he's going to have to overcome more challenges this arc.
Why would he face someone he already beaten? Catagon I know your biased hate, so your not fooling anyone. Zoro looks more like he going to keep his promise with going after Orochi now that we see Orochi is going be a issue. With his condition, don't think he can overcome YC on his own. The plans haven't change as Sanji is facing stronger enemy in the arc with either King or Queen given the hints about it while Zoro it's hard to see him beat YC in his conditions. Medical isn't instant heal on your injuries and given how much tanks each YC are, even damaging them doesn't mean he will one-shot them.
Not saying Zoro is done fighting either, but we shouldn't underestimate YC as scrubs like they are fodder now when being in team fight doesn't mean you can beat someone in solo fight. Just saying by story perspective, Zoro vs Orochi given he wants Yasu revenge and there is chance Hiyori could come into this to harm him too.
I don't think there is time to cook when you in middle of battling around and his more focus on Momo given King and Queen want to take him out the most. Nothing to do with insecurity, just following story, but you got insecurity already from your posts you keep making.
Sword argument isn't viable given Queen uses swords too. Even Jack fights with swords, so it can be with anyone, not just King. Plus fighting with Apoo and Kaido shows he doesn't always face ones with swords, it's not enough to go on there.
feel like zoro's going to fight king now. The similarity of zoro and king in their counterpart of the rivalry with the other guy is uncanny, while sanji (and chopper, as seen on chapter 1007) fight queen as the other counterpart of the rivalry
It can be, but think Sanji vs King given he is more aerial combat while Zoro will fight Queen though on land. Though still not sold on injuries given he got damage too much to be on level to fight YC even with medical.
Think for a second about what we have seen King do in fights:
- Attack with his beak from close quarters.
- Attack with his sword at close quarters.
What makes you think that's a bad matchup for Zoro? So far, his whole fighting style involves getting close to his enemy for all of his attacks. He probably has some long-range techniques, but his style clearly does not revolve around them. And, even then, so does Zoro.
How Zoro gets up in the air to fight him? Unless your saying he has someone to help him to fight in the air, not possible to be challenging fight and it could be like Pica on chasing him around and getting stale cause he can't fly up there. King on how he fights been more on aerial fighting than on the ground. Doesn't make sense why nerf him not to fly while he fights. Sanji looks to be best choice with him, but not saying he can't fight Queen too.
Though Queen on land can give more to Zoro given he got someone he can come near to if he does get involve. Just make sense on how it looks. Though his injuries will not allowed him to fight them. If these two can fight with Macro and still haven't use their full power, I can't see injuried Zoro being able to beat them after damage he got on respective Yonkos. Do not underestimate King and Queen if they are able to give Macro a hard time.
Medical doesn't mean he be on good conditions to fight YC on his own though. Orochi can be challenging still given his body won't be taken out easy with now seeing his DF powers working.
True, but wouldn't compare opponents from them to level of YC which aren't going to be like fodders given you have to realize, King, Queen, and Jack haven't use Haki, Hybrid Form, and Awakening. In his conditions, I don't think can can solo them even if he patchup as injuries take time for healing especially damage from respective Yonkos give him.
Kaido one-shot him. Zoro needed help to fight with him. Facing 5 vs 1 doesn't mean you can match Yonko when we all know he is going to be one-shot.
No. You are just biased, friend. You know that Orochi sucks and doesn't pose a threat to anybody, so you want Zoro to "fight" him, because that will make Zoro look weak compared to Sanji, who in your ideal scenario will fight King.
Just saying by story perspective, Zoro vs Orochi given he wants Yasu revenge and there is chance Hiyori could come into this to harm him too.
King actually cut Marco's wing with his sword. Jack used his swords too. But Queen never used the one that he has.
It can be, but think Sanji vs King given he is more aerial combat while Zoro will fight Queen though on land. Though still not sold on injuries given he got damage too much to be on level to fight YC even with medical.
How Zoro gets up in the air to fight him? Unless your saying he has someone to help him to fight in the air, not possible to be challenging fight and it could be like Pica on chasing him around and getting stale cause he can't fly up there. King on how he fights been more on aerial fighting than on the ground. Doesn't make sense why nerf him not to fly while he fights. Sanji looks to be best choice with him, but not saying he can't fight Queen too.
Zoro doesn't need to know how to fly, he has an arsenal of long-range sword techniques. But I could see why a different opponent would be preferential.
I agree about orochi. The guy would lose a fight against literally any injured strawhat... from chapter 1. Orochi is an ordinary human with a large build with the fighting skill of your average mangahelpers poster. Maybe even less. If at any point in your life you have thrown a punch you are probably a more skilled fighter than orochi. Orochi is so absurdly pathetic that if he holds a sword the only person at risk of getting injured is himself. He is so pathetic that not even his apparently strong fruit is enough to make him worth half a turd. Seriously, orochi is weak by pre time skip standards.
No. You are just biased, friend. You know that Orochi sucks and doesn't pose a threat to anybody, so you want Zoro to "fight" him, because that will make Zoro look weak compared to Sanji, who in your ideal scenario will fight King.
Zoro needs exactly 0.0065 seconds to get rid of Orochi. There's no VS, no fight. It will take one panel in the manga if it even happens.
King actually cut Marco's wing with his sword. Jack used his swords too. But Queen never used the one that he has.
Zoro doesn't need to know how to fly, he has an arsenal of long-range sword techniques. But I could see why a different opponent would be preferential.
Not biased, just not underestimating enemy side thinking Zoro can one-shot them when he can't especially in injured state. Zoro wants him because he stated he does. You don't want him to avenge Yasu cause Zoro stated clear why he wants him. Going for him doesn't give he already did best on Kaido, so how will that make him weak afterwards? Sanji vs King or Queen is hinted more to happen and him facing YC lvl opponent later.
Depends if he doesn't regeneration and come back to life. We have to see how his DF works.
Queen use a sword on Drake, so he can use it. It's not there for wardrobe.
He does as King would start flying and it's hard to see how he reach him when he can't fly. Pica situation is not what we want to see on chasing around. Just saying is all.
Not biased, just not underestimating enemy side thinking Zoro can one-shot them when he can't especially in injured state. Zoro wants him because he stated he does. You don't want him to avenge Yasu cause Zoro stated clear why he wants him. Going for him doesn't give he already did best on Kaido, so how will that make him weak afterwards? Sanji vs King or Queen is hinted more to happen and him facing YC lvl opponent later.
If Zoro is so badly injured what makes you think he'll even care enough to take care of Orochi, when there's a war going on?
Doesn't sound logical at all.
Plus Zoro wanting to fight and defeating the enemy while suffering from an injury isn't something new. Zoro was in a very bad state when he one-shotted Daz Bones.
Queen use a sword on Drake, so he can use it. It's not there for wardrobe.
Maybe you're right, but I don't remember that in the manga. Can you show me the panel?
He does as King would start flying and it's hard to see how he reach him when he can't fly. Pica situation is not what we want to see on chasing around. Just saying is all.
If Zoro is so badly injured what makes you think he'll even care enough to take care of Orochi, when there's a war going on?
Doesn't sound logical at all.
Plus Zoro wanting to fight and defeating the enemy while suffering from an injury isn't something new. Zoro was in a very bad state when he one-shotted Daz Bones.
Maybe you're right, but I don't remember that in the manga. Can you show me the panel?
Not saying it's going to be easy. But it's definitely possible for Zoro to fight King.
Although I'm more than happy to see Sanji face him.
Cause he is on revenge and Orochi if left alone can still be a issue. Zoro want revenge on him for Yasu along getting him away from the war too.
It kinda does sound logical actually.
I get that, but this is YC lvl opponent, not anyone he face in 1 on 1 fight who haven't use Haki, Hybrid Form, and Awakening. Zoro in his state can't handle that might on his own with injuries he has on him. That won't work for on either to make sense on.
This scene here:
Again it wouldn't be good fight as King wouldn't nerf himself for someone on the ground. It just doesn't feel good given how aerial combat he been showing and Queen he can have more of a fight on land with. Again, we have to see, but Idk if Zoro is in any condition to face someone like that even with medical.
Sanji is hinted to fight either King or Queen especially they be after Momo the most to take care of.
Why would he face someone he already beaten? Catagon I know your biased hate, so your not fooling anyone. Zoro looks more like he going to keep his promise with going after Orochi now that we see Orochi is going be a issue. With his condition, don't think he can overcome YC on his own. The plans haven't change as Sanji is facing stronger enemy in the arc with either King or Queen given the hints about it while Zoro it's hard to see him beat YC in his conditions. Medical isn't instant heal on your injuries and given how much tanks each YC are, even damaging them doesn't mean he will one-shot them.
Not saying Zoro is done fighting either, but we shouldn't underestimate YC as scrubs like they are fodder now when being in team fight doesn't mean you can beat someone in solo fight. Just saying by story perspective, Zoro vs Orochi given he wants Yasu revenge and there is chance Hiyori could come into this to harm him too.
I don't think there is time to cook when you in middle of battling around and his more focus on Momo given King and Queen want to take him out the most. Nothing to do with insecurity, just following story, but you got insecurity already from your posts you keep making.
Sword argument isn't viable given Queen uses swords too. Even Jack fights with swords, so it can be with anyone, not just King. Plus fighting with Apoo and Kaido shows he doesn't always face ones with swords, it's not enough to go on there.
I literally said I don't think it's impossible Sanji fights King or Queen. You really need to get over yourself and actually read my posts. Believe it or not I don't actually hate Sanji and would like to see him succeed at something in this arc. Unfortunately he's been mostly underwhelming.
Blocking some attack from King doesn't mean anything. He immediately got choked out and nearly impaled from it (would have died without the RAID suit, pretty much).
Sanji trained for two years to learn the Attack Cuisine. He may as well use it.
Queen holding a sword in one panel does not mean he's a swordsman. Luffy has also wielded a sword in this arc. Is he going to fight Kaido with a sword?
Blackbeard has a flintlock on his waist. Is he a gun fighter like Yasopp?
Katakuri flicked a couple of Jellybeans. How many did he flick in an actual battle with Luffy?
Re: Zoro and Orochi.
Orochi is an issue? He just got nearly all of his heads cut off by the 9RS. He's a weakling.
Zoro doesn't need to do anything else to close out Wano as a badass, but he probably will do something very significant as it's quite early in the fighting.
I literally said I don't think it's impossible Sanji fights King or Queen. You really need to get over yourself and actually read my posts. Believe it or not I don't actually hate Sanji and would like to see him succeed at something in this arc. Unfortunately he's been mostly underwhelming.
Blocking some attack from King doesn't mean anything. He immediately got choked out and nearly impaled from it (would have died without the RAID suit, pretty much).
Sanji trained for two years to learn the Attack Cuisine. He may as well use it.
Queen holding a sword in one panel does not mean he's a swordsman. Luffy has also wielded a sword in this arc. Is he going to fight Kaido with a sword?
Blackbeard has a flintlock on his waist. Is he a gun fighter like Yasopp?
Katakuri flicked a couple of Jellybeans. How many did he flick in an actual battle with Luffy?
Re: Zoro and Orochi.
Orochi is an issue? He just got nearly all of his heads cut off by the 9RS. He's a weakling.
Zoro doesn't need to do anything else to close out Wano as a badass, but he probably will do something very significant as it's quite early in the fighting.
I am not taking your credibility after what you posted. Nice try, I seen your post, man. If your ignoring Sanji beating T6H and tanking King's attack and came out fine over 'Oh! He doesn't harm women!' thinking he won't do anything else, I cannot help you if you letting biased of one scene thinking he hasn't been fighting and helpful when he show he can.
Kinda does especially you come out of it unharmed. That is a feat and King wanted to pierce into him. He didn't do that and Sanji's body is fine. Please don't ignore that if you are one on 'canon feats'. He is a tank without and with RS which is true.
He won't start cooking in middle of fighting though and not time to do that.
He is one. We see him using it on Drake given blood on the sword. Saying 'Oh he will fight him due to sword' doesn't workout as everyone has a weapon that is a sword most of the time. He can fight anyone with that excuse.
Also poor examples your using there as not the same.
I mean Oda brought him back and others stated 'Stop! He isn't coming back.' so Oda have use for him and it could be to get revenge for Yasu. Just saying in story perspective it make sense why especially to fight with Hiyori to get her revenge on him. You can't denied that it's not possibility given way others stated Orochi will come back due to his DF. Just saying to you in respectful manner, not trolling about this.
I am interested on how Zoro vs Orochi will go and how Hiyori will get involve.
Though on new subject. Do you all think Zoro will get a new sword and give back Enma? I feel possible given it feels like Enma belongs to Wano and to the family and Zoro get new sword instead to work on for his own achievements than on something that already has with someone else.
Do you all think Zoro will get a new sword and give back Enma? I feel possible given it feels like Enma belongs to Wano and to the family and Zoro get new sword instead to work on for his own achievements than on something that already has with someone else.
For mine, it comes down to whether or not he makes Enma a black blade. Zoro will forge a black blade, and it should happen in Wano. But it could be Wado that this occurs with. If it is Enma, he won't be giving it back.
