may i suggest you as well to read w7 and tb arcs again? against kaku, zoro never matched his speed; it's true that he managed to parry his attacks and that he's a much better swordman, but that's it; he never really intercepted kaku's soru like luffy did once with blueno for example (without even using gears).. that's why i'm saying zoro's reflexes may not have fully caught up with kaku's speed (because even if he was able to sense kaku's presence as soon as he reappeared he still couldn't move at that speed).
about tb i guess there's no point wasting time explaining, just look at zoro at the end of the fight with odz, does he look all right to you?
when i talked about the bounties i was referring just to zoro and luffy's ones... yea i think luffy is almost twice stronger than zoro atm.. damn i ended up thinking like a db reader, well just read it like "imo luffy may defeat zoro without too much trouble".
p.s. lucci is much stronger and faster than kaku and luffy is even faster than lucci (and he can use that speed to do long ranged attack too)
p.p.s. although i watch the anime, i only use the manga as reference
cya;-)
ok i'll show u a few direct images
kaku dissappears Zoro blocks his attack by reacting
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/401/06/
oh Zoro can't see kaku but moves his sword with enough speed even though kaku's using Soru blocking the incoming attack
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/401/08/
Zoro reactions are enough to help him defend against Soru so i don't
the end of fight with odz
the fight luffy needed nightmere mode plus the entire help of his crew to defeat the guy?
u only use manga references gd then start using them to make your points otherwise u
opinion means little to me
you guys think speed such an issue
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/467/03/
Zoro attacks so fast franky completly shocked about the time of which Zoro used the technique a technique used while dodging an attack
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/467/06/
this attack is a speed attack inself where Zoro reappears after a charge behind his opponent
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/474/04/
deflects a direct punch from a being far larger than giant with almost no effort at all
look at the previous page he was day dreaming about his swords weight
long range attacks
no problem when u can do this
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/474/05/
huge yet still an incomplete attack due to lack of mastery oo i wonder what would happen if it was fully mastered
Zoro durability and quick recovery
he was knocked out serveral times but still stands up ready to fight
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/474/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/480/15/
Luffy unable to defeat odz all by himself
Zoro and the crew have quite a high amount of involvement in the end
Wait Luffy needed to be carried by brookes before he could deliver his final attack
Zoro survives n stays concious for at least a few hours while the crew rested after taking all of luffy's pain from gears nightmere mode hits inflicted on him etc plus his own pain
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/485/19/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/510/17/
Zoro's aura has increased from only effecting his oponent (databooko says this in the description) to effecting those watching the fight
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/510/18/
make of this what you will but either Zoro cut him 9 tails in a split second or Zoro's illusions did some cutting
just a bit of manga envidence to just prove a few things about Zoro's speed and stregnth and endurablity of which i believe is higher than luffy's level