Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Sexy Randal 105]

DA was a huge WTF since it had two COVERS, not colors. Weird they would let it go..

 

[StrangerAtaru]

DA was a huge WTF since it had two COVERS, not colors. Weird they would let it go..

Not the first time I've seen a newer mangaka get two immediate covers without being a massive hit. Should I show you what I saw of "Ten de Showaru Cupid"? (yeah, Togashi went through that too)

 

[Imitorar]

Togashi crashed at the beginning of a series? Odd, I thought he usually crashes at the end...

And the only thing I'm interested in about the ToC this week is Kochikame's incredibly low placement (I know that it's practically unranked, but they usually put it in the middle of the magazine, not the 6th to last counting Jaguar). Bokke-san, Meister, and Kuroko no Basket didn't interest me at all, since I don't care much for pure supernatural series' (they need to have some action and/or adventure too) or sports series'. So this entire wave of new series can get cancelled for all I care, to be honest.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Togashi crashed at the beginning of a series? Odd, I thought he usually crashes at the end...

What I was trying to say was this: "Ten de Showaru Cupid" ran in '89-'90, for about a half year or a bit more in time and actually had two covers...I guess the point I was trying to say is that there can be a mangaka with a ton of potential (Togashi) who gets two covers with their first cover but eventually it could still end. Of course, since then it's all been hits. (though Cupid is a fun little series)

 

[SSJWill4]

What I was trying to say was this: "Ten de Showaru Cupid" ran in '89-'90, for about a half year or a bit more in time and actually had two covers...I guess the point I was trying to say is that there can be a mangaka with a ton of potential (Togashi) who gets two covers with their first cover but eventually it could still end. Of course, since then it's all been hits. (though Cupid is a fun little series)

Has anyone ever translated/scanlated this series? It's the only series Togashi has done that I can't find.

 

[Imitorar]

What I was trying to say was this: "Ten de Showaru Cupid" ran in '89-'90, for about a half year or a bit more in time and actually had two covers...I guess the point I was trying to say is that there can be a mangaka with a ton of potential (Togashi) who gets two covers with their first cover but eventually it could still end. Of course, since then it's all been hits. (though Cupid is a fun little series)

Yeah, I realize that that was your point. I just wanted to mock Togashi, because the last two volumes of Yu Yu Hakusho annoy me, and what Hunter X Hunter has become is pathetic.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Has anyone ever translated/scanlated this series? It's the only series Togashi has done that I can't find.

I've been contemplating doing it myself but I am a bit tied up with a lot others.

 

[kim09]

i'm just curious

how long can one series survive until it is axed if it stays at the bottom?

 

[Kaiten]

It depends at what point they fell to the bottom. Series that debut in the bottom five usually get two volumes worth of chapters. If they have protection, like Asklepios had Bari Haken and Chagecha, they can last three or four volumes. Series that debut high but drop after three or four months almost always make it past a year. Some, like Sket Dance and Psyren, find an audience and start to rise again. Others, like Usagi or P2, can still make it another six months at the bottom.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

p2 went at the bottom till volume 1 came out, then suddenly rocked the casbah so it's a hard one to analyse, but basically the length a series can stay at the bottom is determined by storys nearest exit poitn and how old the series itself is. oh and volume sales if its far on.

lets say a newbie crashes and burns, most expect anywhere between 16 to 25 chapters (2-3 volumes worth)

 

[kim09]

That sucks for meister if it stay at the bottom. How can it end after only 16-25 chapters? About Samurai Usagi, is there any new Edited Mangas? I read until chapter 10 then I couldn't find chapter 11 onwards.

 

[Kaiten]

That sucks for meister if it stay at the bottom. How can it end after only 16-25 chapters? About Samurai Usagi, is there any new Edited Mangas? I read until chapter 10 then I couldn't find chapter 11 onwards.

Usagi hasn't been translated in a long time.

Meister could potentially end as by chapter with less then 15 chapters. New series will be coming in March, Meister will end in time to let one of them in. It can end that early because it's rankings indicate a near total rejection by the people who buy Jump. It's not like Meister has to compete with a lot of series. Mago and Psyren have to compete with the action series for votes. Meister only has Eyeshield and another new series to compete with among sports fans. Kuroko seems to have won over that demographic, at least for now.

P2 was a weird example but it did spend enough time in the middle of the mag to warrant over a year of serialization.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

That sucks for meister if it stay at the bottom. How can it end after only 16-25 chapters? About Samurai Usagi, is there any new Edited Mangas? I read until chapter 10 then I couldn't find chapter 11 onwards.

I really wish people would finish Editing Samurai Usagi. I would still like to read it.

 

[kim09]

I really wish people would finish Editing Samurai Usagi. I would still like to read it.

Yeah, and I wonder why there are loads of groups Editing Naruto eventhough there are tons of other good manga to scan?

 

[Kaiten]

Yeah, and I wonder why there are loads of groups Editing Naruto eventhough there are tons of other good manga to scan?

I could make a list of series I'd like to see scanlated rather than version 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 of Naruto. None of them would be Jump or former Jump series but whatever.

As long as Naruto gets huge download numbers and attracts people to forums groups will scanlate it. There will always be groups who don't know enough about manga to scanlate anything else. Whatever.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

When in March are the new series coming out? Early, middle or late?

 

[Kaiten]

Won't know till the announcements are made. It also depends on how many series are coming. With Asklepios canceled I assume they plan on adding at least one series. Also, it's just about time for Hunter x Hunter to come back.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

P2 was a weird example but it did spend enough time in the middle of the mag to warrant over a year of serialization.

and in the top 5. funny thing is that when it was finally ended just past it's year mark (giving it a pretty good second cover i might add) the final two volumes were released at once, and sold quite well..

and wasnt doing TOO badly in the TOC (think psyren/sket dance combined) so it really shoulda kept going


anyway yeah new series! hunter x hunter SHOULD return, if the pattern is permanent.
also new series around the time of issues 14, 15, 16 in varying amounts (last year we had three series and HxH, year before just Usagi and Volleyball Tsukai Gouda Go) so... yeah

 

[Rejuvenation]

Wait, when was it announced that HunterXHunter was coming back? Last I checked there wasn't any set time frame. I thought it was whether Togashi felt like being lazy or not.

Also I don't mind Meister getting the boot. Now that Asklepios is gone as well that would leave 2 spots for new series to come in.

 

[Koen]

i'm just curious

how long can one series survive until it is axed if it stays at the bottom?

You can't know that for 100% sure. It will probably depend from the merciness of the chief-editor

Y to M contractor and jumbor (or whatever takei's manga name was) were cancelled after 10 chapters iirc. Fast if you have asked me with the knowledge something like asklepios could have ended back then. We'll see if meister will get a boost (like P2) if not then do they want space/ a free spot?