Discussion Awakened Devil Fruits

[c0nflikt]

Well i was reading from 540 on again when i got to 544 i read what crocodile said again, and it hit me with this information it reveals a lot about the one piece world, So long the lines of awakened zoans we pretty much know of four

Bepo (Polar bear) and the Four guardian beasts.(minotaur, koala, zebra and rhino.)

So who else is the series do you think is an awakened zoan?

Ty for correction goji.

 

[mugen]

i am pretty sure Lucci is. Lucci is just awesome!!! i mean dude utilizes his df to the fullest!!

 

[c0nflikt]

awakened zoans are always in the humanoid animal form, look at the guardian beasts and bepo, lucci transforms back and forth.

 

[mugen]

umm where does it say thats what an awakened zoan is?

 

[c0nflikt]

Crocodile talks about awakened zoans

the guardian beasts don't change form as far as we know, before crocodile mentions they are awakened zoans we didn't know what they were. I'm sure many assumed they were trained animals or some freakish experiments.

 

[Goji]

So long the lines of awakened zoans we pretty much know of four

Bepo and the three guardian beasts.

You mean five, 'cause there are four guardian beasts: minotaur, koala, zebra and rhino.

i am pretty sure Lucci is. Lucci is just awesome!!! i mean dude utilizes his df to the fullest!!

I agree that he uses his df to the fullest. But we can't say for sure he's an awakened zoan or not. Because we just don't know what the term "awakened zoan" means exactly. ^^

awakened zoans are always in the humanoid animal form, look at the guardian beasts and bepo, lucci transforms back and forth.

Well actually we don't know if they're always in that humanoid animal form... Yes, it's true we've only seen them in that form, but that doesn't mean they don't have other forms. It's very much possible that they can also use other forms.
Due to lack of information we're stuck with speculation. Which is fine by me btw.

Wouldn't it be cool if chopper became an awakened zoan, and when he becomes one he can use all his "point"-forms without having to use a rumble ball. Maybe if you're an awakened zoan user you can use every form possible for your specific fruit. So it could be he'll even be able to enter monster-point without much trouble.

 

[Benjamin Kaito]

I think Chopper is already a awakened zoan, being Monster Point is ultimate form. However, he isn't able to control himself yet..

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Monster Point is way to strong to be an awakened zoan. Also Sentomaru didnt know that a Monster Point could be possible, according to his status as bodyguard for vegapunk i think he should know awakened zoans.

Bepo as an awakened zoan seems... not right. I mean those beasts dont have any feelings and intelligence, Bepo has both.

Right know we only know those 4 awakened zoans.

 

[Raysen_ht]

I think that the term awakened zoan refers to fruit users who lost control to the respective animal of their fruit. They gain extra power/recovery, but they loose all reason and become beasts.
I dont think its an advantage...

 

[Roarchu]

i thought they were fruit users who got messed up by vegapunk

who knows

 

[Razh]

I think that the term awakened zoan refers to fruit users who lost control to the respective animal of their fruit. They gain extra power/recovery, but they loose all reason and become beasts.
I dont think its an advantage...

That's more or less exactly what I wrote a week ago in chapter discussion.

It could be a certain risk that befalls all of the zoan users. If they use it too much they could be taken over by animal instincts, more and more, until they almost lose their humanity. They retain some memories, but since they are more animals than humans now, they can't really remember everything. Those that we've seen know how to use weapons, use violence to solve problems, and play cards. Who knows how successfully. Of course, maybe they are more intelligent than they seem, but can't use that in their forms. We've seen typical animal traits on some of them. Like koala eating leaves.

At least I think so. If you can remember, Lucci had quite a lust for blood. It could have been his devil fruit influence.
I mean, it makes sense that when you become an animal, you're going to change somewhat. If you start relying on your animal side too much, you may not be able to come back.

And there's nothing to indicate that Vegapunk had anything to do with their condition, but I wouldn't dismiss it.
Although, I would hate if Vegapunk had his fingers in everything.

 

[Goji]

I think that the term awakened zoan refers to fruit users who lost control to the respective animal of their fruit. They gain extra power/recovery, but they loose all reason and become beasts.
I dont think its an advantage...

That's a very interesting idea. Could be possible. ^^

It could be a certain risk that befalls all of the zoan users. If they use it too much they could be taken over by animal instincts, more and more, until they almost lose their humanity. They retain some memories, but since they are more animals than humans now, they can't really remember everything. Those that we've seen know how to use weapons, use violence to solve problems, and play cards. Who knows how successfully. Of course, maybe they are more intelligent than they seem, but can't use that in their forms. We've seen typical animal traits on some of them. Like koala eating leaves.

At least I think so. If you can remember, Lucci had quite a lust for blood. It could have been his devil fruit influence.
I mean, it makes sense that when you become an animal, you're going to change somewhat. If you start relying on your animal side too much, you may not be able to come back.

If this theory is true, I wonder what Chopper would look like should he become an awakened zoan. I mean, he ate the hito hito no mi (human human fruit), so.... will he look even more human than what he looks like now in heavy point?

I'm curious what he would look like. But it looks like his DF has already taken over quite a bit. I mean, we don't get to see the "reindeer" side of him very much now do we?

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

i am pretty sure Lucci is. Lucci is just awesome!!! i mean dude utilizes his df to the fullest!!

Lucci is definitely not an awakened zoan. Lucci has very important differences with the awakened zoans. Read the following quote of myself.

I think that the term awakened zoan refers to fruit users who lost control to the respective animal of their fruit. They gain extra power/recovery, but they loose all reason and become beasts.
I dont think its an advantage...

I disagree with that idea they become totally beasts because they have some humans abilities, that a normal animal could not do and that a zoan user turned into his animal form could neither do. Just read the following quote of myself.
Nevertheless, I agree they should have lost their reason.

About the awakened zoans, if we suppose they are humans, we can say they are in the DF animal form, behaves like animal but fight/stand up like a human would do. What I mean is that in a DF animal form, the DF user walks, run like the animal would normally does : you can see that when Lucci turns into a panther to bite Luffy. He run on his four paws and could only do what a normal panther is able to do.
But with the awakened zoan, they are in the animal form and able to stand up in their animal forms, hold weapons, what Lucci for example could not do in an animal for. For that, he has to turn into the hybrid form, half-human, half-panther.

 

[c0nflikt]

I think awakened zoans are forever in their 2 legged animal form, i think bepo is so strong he mastered this and is now forever polar bear, i think the guardian beasts are zoans who were tinkered with by vegapunk and thats possibly why they don't talk.

A further experimentation towards Zoans i think is dr hogbacks attempt on that cheetah fellow i can't remember his name but i think that is what he was going for.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

i think the guardian beasts are zoans who were tinkered with by vegapunk and thats possibly why they don't talk.

Normally you could not tinkered a DF. The only special cases done by Dr Vegapunk and that were shown were the zoans eaten by objects : Lasso, the dog or Mr 4 and Frankfood, the sword of Spandam. But as you see, for the DF power to be activated, the DF must have been eaten. I do not know how Dr Vegapunk would have managed to avoid this supreme rule among the DFs.

nota bene : the case with the PXs able to throw beams is different : this not a DF power tinkered. Dr Vegapunk only understood how the Pika Pika Fruit allows Ki Zaru to do beams and managed to find a way to allow the PX to do beams too but with their own technology.

 

[c0nflikt]

Normally you could not tinkered a DF. The only special cases done by Dr Vegapunk and that were shown were the zoans eaten by objects : Lasso, the dog or Mr 4 and Frankfood, the sword of Spandam. But as you see, for the DF power to be activated, the DF must have been eaten. I do not know how Dr Vegapunk would have managed to avoid this supreme rule among the DFs.

nota bene : the case with the PXs able to throw beams is different : this not a DF power tinkered. Dr Vegapunk only understood how the Pika Pika Fruit allows Ki Zaru to do beams and managed to find a way to allow the PX to do beams too but with their own technology.

We truly don't know how or what vegapunk can do to DF, the marines have alot of advanced technology and techniques the pirates don't, and i think most if not all of it comes from vegapunk. He most likely hears how a pirate or someone uses or has harnessed a power and trys to replicate it.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

We truly don't know how or what vegapunk can do to DF, the marines have alot of advanced technology and techniques the pirates don't, and i think most if not all of it comes from vegapunk. He most likely hears how a pirate or someone uses or has harnessed a power and trys to replicate it.

Of course every special things concerning the DFs comes from Dr Vegapunk. That was Dr Vegapunk that allows two objects (finally named Lasso and Frankfood after they ate their respective zoan DF) to eat a DF and that was Dr Vegapunk that found a way to replicate beams similar to Ki Zaru's with technology. That is what I said in the last post

nota bene : it seems that an object can only eat zoan DF as there is a beast spirit or something like that in the zoan DF that allows the object to " live ". That beast spirit could be the one that might control the awakened zoans.

 

[c0nflikt]

Another purpose of this thread was for anyone to point out characters who they think were awakened zoans also, pandaman lol.

but i'm looking forward to seeing more of these characters but seeing as how DF's are already rare this will be even rarer i assume.

 

[Splat]

I think it's possible that choppers monster point turns him into an awakened zoan type. The demon guards might have been permanently locked into their awakened forms, or possibly just don't release them because of how powerful it makes them. If you look here http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/512/17/ what robin says in the top middle panel suggests to me that she knows something about choppers form, which is why i think it is awakened zoan form.

 

[BetaRuler]

I always thought Bepo was a bear's head put on a human body by Law...

As for awakened... The dormant power inside Zoan's, that can be unlocked, it looks to me that it gives them a mutated form of their animal, and enhances them greatly.
An increased metabolism maybe? I mean they get superior speed, healing, size, and strength, maybe even superior senses like sight, hearing and smell. Summing the results up reminds me of the same effects the assassins from the "eye of michael" from Trigun maximum would get.

But for those new to attempting to use this awakened form it seems tiring, or at least to Chopper, if that is his awakened form, also, it might be a form he should be trying to reach without the use of those pills to force it open, I get this feeling that he should try to learn to use his fruit without relying the rumble balls, because I don't see any other Zoan users relying on them and their pretty in tune with their zoans, or Chopper might learn to make a new type of ball that'll work better with the help of the tribal medicines where he currently is...