Admiral vs Admiral: Who is the strongest?

[Franckie]

So the admirals are stronger than their commanding officer???

Yes, similar to how Spandam commanded CP9, yet was the weakest member.

No, there is no comparison for battle prowess between Sengoku and the admirals. The admirals being stated as the strongest in the marines is true, but Sengoku is a fleet admiral and was also once an admiral, meaning that he has also held the distinction of being known as the strongest of the marines.

Whether Sengoku is stronger or weaker than the admirals remains to be seen. We've seen a little of all four's power, but I could still not really rank them. Akainu would seem the obvious winner, but it's only partly because we've seen so much of him in this war, especially compared to everyone else.

Remember, rank is not everything. Garp has always been hinted as stronger than admirals, though Sengoku believes he's able to keep him in check. Both Aokoji and Saul were vice admirals, yet the difference in battle power was enormous 20 years ago on Ohara. Smoker is only a commander, yet he often mentions that people far weaker than him are above him in rank.

Anyway, I've got a feeling either Akainu or Aokoji will be the strongest marines of the bunch, but since it could be very likely Sengoku stays at MHQ (what remains of it anyway), we may never really get a chance to compare the Fleet admiral to the three admirals again (except perhaps in flashbacks, or unless he ends up sending himself to the New World?)

Sengoku and Garp are not as strong as they were 20+ years ago.

 

[RichardMNixon]

Aokiji. He showed more than I had hoped in this war. His speed is impressive and the rang of attacks are to. If jozu was a logia than it's fact that he can freeze the hell out of anyone(besides WB:P). He also seems to be favored by Oda.

Jozu has never been implied to be a logia.

A priori I think Kizaru has the best DF, but moving at the speed of light in One Piece is apparently not all Einstein cracked it up to be. Based on the war I think Akainu is pretty clearly the strongest with Kizaru and Aokiji roughly even. They both have a pretty strong tactical advantage however with being able to rapidly travel anywhere on the battlefield, and stopping the movement of ships respectively.

 

[goldb]

I think bittman pretty much phrased it right, but yeah Garp and Sengoku are not at the strength they were at 20 years ago, in saying that we don't know how their previous "full strength" would compare to that of the current Admirals. If it is more then, they would pretty much all be at the same level, if it's less then the Admirals are stronger.

But it's true, we haven't seen much of anyone to really draw comparisons...

 

[Gcat88]

Okay i am sorry but if after this chapter you still think SenGoku might be weaker than any of the three Admirals i would be shocked. You got me though; because there is a commanding officer doesnt mean he is more powerful. Between the three though i still think its rock paper scissors.

 

[Poneglyph420]

It's pretty clear Akainu is being played up as the toughest of the Admirals..
But in reality it's really based on the conditions presented.
It's obvious that cleverness spews from all of them, so it would be a cunning attack that delivered a killing blow...
Again we still don't know the extent of any of their skills or abilities..

But just based on storytelling and Oda's timing, i'm going for Akainu..

and yes Sengoku and Garp are more bad ass than any of them, just they don't need to prove it.

 

[cua_raitei]

I think kizaru has the most advantages among 3 of them

 

[DEATHBOTT]

out of top marines i say sengoku>garp>akainu>kizaru>akoiji

 

[Wisshard]

Generally, I think the three Admirals are, more or less, on the same level of strength and have little differences in strength among each other. However, pitted against each other they bad and good match-ups. Such as Akainu vs. Aokiji, which is a bad match-up for Aokiji since the Red Dog was capable of vaporizing a huge iceberg in an instant. While Aokiji undoubtfully would last longer than that, I do not think he would win the battle against heat of that magnitude.

I do think Kizuro would win against Akainu though, with superior speed and Haki augumented light-speed kicks.

But in the end, there is (imo) no clear strongest among the Admirals, against Jozu Aokiji might be the strongest and against another foe Akainu might get the best results.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Kizaru's devil fruit is awesome :
- the best speed
- the greatest power of destruction
- his light body cannot be touched unlike other logia bodies
- light does not have any weakness whereas ice and magma obviously have (heat/salt melts ice and water solidifies magma)

Kizaru is also the only Admiral that was not injured in the war : the only time we saw him bleeding was when he fought Rayleigh.

 

[Fox666]

It's hard to think of an weakness for light, isn't it?

At least I can think that Jozu would have immunity to direct beams, yet explosions would be a problem.

 

[OunknownO]

Black beard anyone... darkness swallows the light. Black hole destroyes everything even the light itself

 

[LeKuaSimi]

Generally, I think the three Admirals are, more or less, on the same level of strength and have little differences in strength among each other. However, pitted against each other they bad and good match-ups. Such as Akainu vs. Aokiji, which is a bad match-up for Aokiji since the Red Dog was capable of vaporizing a huge iceberg in an instant. While Aokiji undoubtfully would last longer than that, I do not think he would win the battle against heat of that magnitude.

I do think Kizuro would win against Akainu though, with superior speed and Haki augumented light-speed kicks.

But in the end, there is (imo) no clear strongest among the Admirals, against Jozu Aokiji might be the strongest and against another foe Akainu might get the best results.

It is possible that Aokiji's ice based attacks would be of little use against Kizaru, since Ice is usually transparent and so Kizaru should be able to get out of any Ice attacks easily.. Of course, Aokiji might be able to refract/reflect (dunno bout reflect, haven't seen ice with my face on it. but this is one piece) Kizaru anywhere he wants

 

[Fox666]

Black beard anyone... darkness swallows the light. Black hole destroyes everything even the light itself

I meant non-DF weaknesses...

And Blackbeard is quite pointless, don't? It works the same for all DFs

 

[panasit]

I think three admirals are quite equal. Taking out Kizaru though, may be Akainu can beat Aokiji. I have nothing to base that on though.

I think Akainu's personality makes him a lot more dangerous than the other two. Kizaru is still qute laid back. He can take the head shot out of any of the supernova, yet he didn't. He could have also fire a laser at Ace's head instead of at the key, he also didn't.
Kizaru is extremely powerful but there is something about him. Most of us were lead to think that if Kuma didn't transport straw hat crew elsewhere, Kizaru would have killed them. I disagree. I think they could have survived. Especially knowing that all the other supernova survive capture, there's no reason Luffy's crew will be any different. But they definitely needed help from Rayleigh though. Zorro was really about to die.
My point is: Kizaru can be extremely deadly, but for some reason it looks like he chose not to be.

Akainu on the other hand play for keep. Plus, I think out of all the three admirals, I think Akainu is the only one who would kill fellow marines.

 

[monkey D luffy]

it depends on a lot of factors
aokiji and akainu can go either way. if aokiji uses enough ice he can pretty much extinguish the magma akainu has, also take into account that aokiji will just melt reform back in one piece, same goes the other way around, there is no distinct counter like luffy and enel. we all saw that ace and aokiji were equal and i doubt ace couldve one this fight. if aokiji really goes all out i think the can take akainu, akainu is jhust ruthless and aokiji isnt. kizaru is the same, he wont any distinct advantage over the other 2 admirals. i think they are all equal.

 

[LoS]

I really don't know why this is even in question, I can see how this topic will generate much discussion, but if you read the chapters close enough it clearly points toward Akainu as the dominant one among the three.

Others can post the pages/panels pointing toward this, I'm too lazy right now, but trust me they are there.

 

[BlackHair]

Imo Akainu was rather portrayed as the persistent one. The one who would do anything to archieve his goal. But not necessarily the strongest one. By just going with devil fruit advantage, I believe Kizaru would be the strongest.

Anyway, out of the Admirals I want AoKiji to be the strongest one. Even if he seems to have the disadvantage.

Sengoku and Garp are not as strong as they were 20+ years ago.

Yet it doesn't say they are weaker than the current Admirals.

WB was also several times weaker than 20+ years ago. Yet he proofed his position in the rank list.

 

[Franckie]

Yet it doesn't say they are weaker than the current Admirals.

Yet it doesn't change the fact the Admirals have been stated to be stronger than them.

WB was also several times weaker than 20+ years ago. Yet he proofed his position in the rank list.

Yes, WB got weaker. So did Garp and Sengoku.

 

[undertoe]

Yet it doesn't change the fact the Admirals have been stated to be stronger than them.

When was this stated...?

 

[Franckie]

When was this stated...?

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/303/19/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/510/03/