Special Move PoT and SPoT Technique Tier List

[Fuji Shusuke]

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Isn't this this Yuushi's Direct Flat Drive Return?
http://www.mangareader.net/422-27038-16/prince-of-tennis/chapter-141.html

 

[Ninomiya]

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Isn't this this Yuushi's Direct Flat Drive Return?
http://www.mangareader.net/422-27038-16/prince-of-tennis/chapter-141.html

Im not too sure there.
It wasnt named so I think we should leave it. But it essentially performed the same purpose and effect of DFDR.

New question.

Curving Laser VS Gyro Laser. Which is harder to return?
And THINK about it first.

 

[Fuji Shusuke]

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Gyro Laser is harder to return. Some players could detect the spin of the Curving Laser in time, since it is slower than Gyro, and be able to predict it's path to return it. With Gyro, even if you can predict it, you cannot react to it.

 

[Ninomiya]

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Gyro Laser is harder to return. Some players could detect the spin of the Curving Laser in time, since it is slower than Gyro, and be able to predict it's path to return it. With Gyro, even if you can predict it, you cannot react to it.

What makes you say a player could predict Curving Laser? Niou stood no chance at all.
Gyro Laser is just one straight direction.

Both are of the exact same principle. Their greatest advantage as that the stance to perform them can be the same stance for a different technique, which completely mindf*cks the opponent. I really cant see how much better Gyro Laser is to Curving Laser atm.

Also, was the Gyro Laser defienetly faster than the Laserbeam? I cant remember.

 

[LetalHawk]

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What makes you say a player could predict Curving Laser? Niou stood no chance at all.
Gyro Laser is just one straight direction.

Both are of the exact same principle. Their greatest advantage as that the stance to perform them can be the same stance for a different technique, which completely mindf*cks the opponent. I really cant see how much better Gyro Laser is to Curving Laser atm.

Also, was the Gyro Laser defienetly faster than the Laserbeam? I cant remember.

Both shots are hard to return and hard to predict. What it's true is that Gyro laser is faster than Curving laser.

I think that Gyro Laser is harder to return because you really can't predict if Kadou's gonna hit that or Tornado Snake. I'm thinking of ways of returning both shots. One of them would be Tezuka Zone and Tezuka Phantom, other Atobe's amazing insight as he returned Ochi's Mach which was way faster than Neo Scud Serve and possibly Gyro Laser.

And Gyro laser far exceeds laserbeam's speed. It's the combination of Laser Beam and Tornado Snake which results in a faster shot.

 

[Fuji Shusuke]

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Momo stated that the Gyro Laser was much faster. In theory, the gyro spin caused the ball to have almost no air resistance just like the Tornado Snake, allowing for a much faster return. And also, Niou was able to run to where he thought the ball would be, indicating that there is enough time to sprint to the normal Laser Beam and for higher level players, that amount of time can be used to identify the spin of the ball and return it. However the Gyro, is much faster. Not even Devil Akaya or Yanagi could run to it, let alone react to it. So that is why I think the Gyro Laser beats the Curving Laser.

Also wouldn't Kaidoh be able to use Curving Laser as well XD?

 

[Ninomiya]

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Both shots are hard to return and hard to predict. What it's true is that Gyro laser is faster than Curving laser.

I think that Gyro Laser is harder to return because you really can't predict if Kadou's gonna hit that or Tornado Snake. I'm thinking of ways of returning both shots. One of them would be Tezuka Zone and Tezuka Phantom, other Atobe's amazing insight as he returned Ochi's Mach which was way faster than Neo Scud Serve and possibly Gyro Laser.

And Gyro laser far exceeds laserbeam's speed. It's the combination of Laser Beam and Tornado Snake which results in a faster shot.

If Gyro Laser is faster then fair enough.
But the issue of not being able what shot to predict is the EXACT same with Yagyuu.
Does this basically mean Kaidoh is better than Kirihara? Who can only use Tornado Snake, And better than Yagyuu?

 

[LetalHawk]

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If Gyro Laser is faster then fair enough.
But the issue of not being able what shot to predict is the EXACT same with Yagyuu.
Does this basically mean Kaidoh is better than Kirihara? Who can only use Tornado Snake, And better than Yagyuu?

Personally, Kaidoh is above them and now even more due to his training.

 

[Ninomiya]

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Personally, Kaidoh is above them and now even more due to his training.

Fair enough. Momoshiro's improvement was big so Kaidoh's will probably be just as big.
Although its not as if ALL of athe BJB will have improved at a better rate than the winners. I mean, they are the winners after all.

Also Yanagi didnt improve much despite being a part of the BJB. And to be honest, neither did Kenya.
He sucked right through the match but for some reason he is now the 9th most popular charcter.

So its not impossible that there are several winners that didnt improve so much.

I honestly thought this fodder was gonna Jack Knife here lol.

http://www.mangareader.net/343-58611-2/new-prince-of-tennis/chapter-38.html

 

[LetalHawk]

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This fodder, poor Shun lol.

 

[Fuji Shusuke]

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I've attempted to tier Insight and Calm Insight. Do I need to make adjustments?

 

[Ninomiya]

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Nah its fine.
Where is Mach Serve. Since Atobe and Tezuka are still having great trouble returning it.
It should be high up.

 

[Fuji Shusuke]

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It's already been tiered, it's in Rank S.

 

[Ninomiya]

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Is it possible that Fuji could easily handle 5ball return?
Ive thought about this since we were shown Fuji easily handling 3 balls at once when practicing to creat Fourth Counter in that flash back before he brought it out against Hirakoba/Chinen pair.(Great match).

Im presuming by now perhaps 5 ball return would be easy for him.

 

[LetalHawk]

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Fuji could handle 7 or 8 ball return?

 

[Fuji Shusuke]

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Fuji used Fourth Counter to return Entaku Shot. Entaku Shot creates an illusion of way more than 3 balls. Fuji could probably handle 10 ball return.

 

[Kaoz]

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I'd like to remind you guys that Kintarou returned Abare Dama's illusion shots but couldn't handle 5 at once right away.

 

[Ninomiya]

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I'd like to remind you guys that Kintarou returned Abare Dama's illusion shots but couldn't handle 5 at once right away.

Hmmm... Thats a good point there.
He has Mass Clone technique. So we're talking 20-30 ball return being possible for the guy.

 

[Kaoz]

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Hmmm... Thats a good point there.
He has Mass Clone technique. So we're talking 20-30 ball return being possible for the guy.

My point was that Kintarou could do that but couldn't perform 5 at once. Following that, just because Fuji used three balls for his training, it doesn't mean he can hit 5 at once or whatever either.

 

[Ninomiya]

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My point was that Kintarou could do that but couldn't perform 5 at once. Following that, just because Fuji used three balls for his training, it doesn't mean he can hit 5 at once or whatever either.

After U-17 Camp training why rule it out? Akutsu could hit 2 prior to the camp then with the camp's training he learned to hit 5,
whats your reason for ruling out Fuji being able to?