Discussion New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

[GrySun]

Submissions for new roles need to follow the next format in order to be considered:

I. [Place Holder Name]

II. [Affiliation]

III. [Short Description]

IV. [Long Description/Idea/Premise/Scope]

V. [Priority/RoleType/Interactions/other Specifics]

Spoiler: Examples of Approved roles

I. Troublemaker

II. Town

III. Can once per game make a Day phase lynch be the top 2 voted people instead of regular 1 top voted person. Every player has 2 votes but cannot vote the same player twice.

IV. PMs the host on the night before the day he wishes to use his power on. Host announces at start of day that the 2 top voted players will be lynched.
Everyone gets 2 votes that they can use on 2 individual players. Both can be moved once like usual. Example:
!votekill1 PlayerX
!votekill2 PlayerY
!votelock2 (locks on PlayerY).

Any other format is also fine as long as players specify who they are voting and if it's a new vote or they are changing their first one.

V. Doesn't have a Priority, happens at the end of night after all other actions. Doesn't target another player. Primary role.

Since it happens at the end of a phase, the player can be both blocked and killed to prevent it happening.

I. Psychiatrist

II. Townie

III. The Psychiatrist investigates one person per night phase to see if the player has a Secondary Role. They get a "Your target has a secondary role" if that is the case, and a "Your target does not have a secondary role" if it's not. The Psychiatrist does not find out the allegiance of the target.

IV. It's a counter for scum secondaries without outright revealing them, leaving room for guess work and player reading.

V. Priority 2, Primary Role.

Current roles Approved for testing here

Rules on including those in a game:

• A host can take any of these roles and test them in their game. Depending on results from testing the role it will either be included into the Role list or need more changes/testing.
• A host at the very least has to announce in the opening post of the game that new roles are being tested, or alternatively even more specifically reveal the roles that are being tested.

Link to the last update post with the roles that are either close to approval or were not approved: here.

 

[Evil3ye]

How many times have we used paranoid detective? like twice? Not sure I'll use this one in my games.

But that's not exactly as Paranoid Det. The name is actually bit misleading here, as the result is not always the same as in the paranoid case...

Actually a Paranoid version of the spy would be like - what the word implies, always thinking the people are targeting him? no? Well, whatever, that's a confused spy then or w/e.

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Ok enough new roles for now.

 

[digitaldude]

But that's not exactly as Paranoid Det. The name is actually bit misleading here, as the result is not always the same as in the paranoid case...

Actually a Paranoid version of the spy would be like - what the word implies, always thinking the people are targeting him? no? Well, whatever, that's a confused spy then or w/e.

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Ok enough new roles for now.

Yeah, we made more roles than the offical mafia game forums dude...

 

[Hardy]

Oh come on, a prostitute that doesn't do shit would be cool

But yeah, we have like... 55 roles or so.

Yeah, we made more roles than the offical mafia game forums dude...

We're the Pokémon of Mafia Games

 

[Kat]

Let the grown ups work Kat ^^

then why are you joing the discussion ?

 

[gnut]

ok herms...scratch what i said before...just make it plain and simple...make it that both jesus/satan both show townie once lynched...both resurrect on the 2nd night after
now this would cause major confusion especially if a player plays like haku...get all the way to the end without revealing
plus it gives mafia a sporting chance if the jesus comes back before the satan...mafia could actually use him/her as a sacrifice...idk

i just believe a jesus role is kinda effed up...if you are mafia even 3rd party...it's a major blow for a brand new confirmed player to show up late in the game...

 

[digitaldude]

I don't see the point of Jesus and Satan in mafia game, I dont want resurrection roles. if you are dead you are dead.

 

[gnut]

I don't see the point of Jesus and Satan in mafia game, I dont want resurrection roles. if you are dead you are dead.

only if there is a jesus ofc...i just said if there is a jesus why not?...

could be great for those really big games...like 20+players

 

[Evil3ye]

How about introducing a new role called "the talkative". It goes like, you have to do 30 posts per day, or you get hostkilled. And kdowns always gets it.

 

[FrostyMouse]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

I obviously was killed before I could suicide myself, but I was thinking of perhaps a change to the Time Bomb, and perhaps a renaming.

How about this?

Time Bomb Option 1: The host decides before the game starts the night by which the Time Bomb must explode, of which the player is informed. The player can choose to explode any Night Phase, not including the first Night Phase, up to and including the Night Phase that the Time Bomb is required to explode by. The night it shall explode, it can target any other player and blow him up. If the Time Bomb is killed before the time limit is passed, it does not explode.

I was thinking that we could argue tampering or something as a reason for it to explode early, so perhaps we could do something like this

Time Bomb Option 2: The host decides before the game starts when the Time Bomb will explode, of which the player is informed. The night it shall explode, it can target any other player and blow him up. If the Time Bomb is killed before the time limit is passed it does not explode. If the Time Bomb is targeted with an investigation type ability, be it a Townie or Mafia role, the Time Bomb explodes, killing the investigating player as a result of tampering.

 

[Hardy]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

Well, Time Bomb 1 seems more like Kamikaze Bomb, and Time Bomb 2 seems like a... Detective exclusive PGO that kills himself too, lol?

What's so bad about the current Time Bomb? If anything, the second one is way worse than it is atm lol.

 

[FrostyMouse]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

Well, Time Bomb 1 seems more like Kamikaze Bomb, and Time Bomb 2 seems like a... Detective exclusive PGO that kills himself too, lol?

What's so bad about the current Time Bomb? If anything, the second one is way worse than it is atm lol.

It's that you're assured of dying by a specific night, unless the Mafia Diffuser chooses to defuse you.

Name another role where you are basically forced to die. To be honest, I'd rather be rid of the role entirely, but that's most likely not a possibility.

The second option would mean that you couldn't willy nilly cast your Townie or Mafia Detective ability about, like you currently can, so you'd have to weigh your options before investigating.

 

[gnut]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

herms....a satan soul steal role would have been so badass in that game

 

[Evil3ye]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

pirate?

 

[gnut]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

Instead of stealing abilities...he can steal a dead persons soul....

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

 

[FrostyMouse]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

How would that work, Greg?

 

[gnut]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

How would that work, Greg?

idk...i was leaving it up to herms to figure it out...xD

not really into the mechanics of creating roles...but,i was thinking along the lines of countering the jesus.
instead of an automatic resurrection of a townie...you have a mafia who could steal a soul to resurrect himself.
but,lets say he is the 1st lynched...hence,no souls to steal.or maybe just that,he can only use it after being lynched.

oh that would be such a mindblast...say like last game.have him resurrect on the second day like jesus.then you have the debate of believing the person who actually claims jesus.

hey,it's just a thought...so many roles for town that influence the game even after they are lynched.
vengeful/restless/jesus...hell even the new witch role to a certain extent.

 

[FrostyMouse]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

idk...i was leaving it up to herms to figure it out...xD

not really into the mechanics of creating roles...but,i was thinking along the lines of countering the jesus.
instead of an automatic resurrection of a townie...you have a mafia who could steal a soul to resurrect himself.
but,lets say he is the 1st lynched...hence,no souls to steal.or maybe just that,he can only use it after being lynched.

oh that would be such a mindblast...say like last game.have him resurrect on the second day like jesus.then you have the debate of believing the person who actually claims jesus.

hey,it's just a thought...so many roles for town that influence the game even after they are lynched.
vengeful/restless/jesus...hell even the new witch role to a certain extent.

lol

So, I assume you were thinking something like this?

- Shinigami [Mafia]:
The first time that the Shinigami dies, he can resurrect himself the next Day/Night Phase by stealing the soul of a deceased player; however, if the Shinigami is the first player to die, there are no souls to steal to resurrect himself with, and thus the Shinigami is unable to continue to play.

There's also another possible idea:

- Life-Stealer [Mafia]:
The first time that the Life-Stealer dies, he can resurrect himself the next Day/Night Phase by stealing the soul of a deceased player; however, if the Life-Stealer is the first player to die, there are no souls to steal to resurrect himself with, and thus the Life-Stealer is unable to continue to play. When the Life-Stealer is resurrected, he randomly gains the role and ability of a dead player by the host using an RNG to select a dead player. Whatever the role of the dead player, the Life-Stealer becomes that role. So, if a Townie was chosen, he would join the Townies, Third-Party (not the Lover, unless you wanted something like you would then get to choose a Lover, although I think that we're removing the Lover role), or potentially his own Mafia side or another Mafia side.

 

[gnut]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

lol

So, I assume you were thinking something like this?

- Shinigami [Mafia]:
The first time that the Shinigami dies, he can resurrect himself the next Day/Night Phase by stealing the soul of a deceased player; however, if the Shinigami is the first player to die, there are no souls to steal to resurrect himself with, and thus the Shinigami is unable to continue to play.

There's also another possible idea:

- Life-Stealer [Mafia]:
The first time that the Life-Stealer dies, he can resurrect himself the next Day/Night Phase by stealing the soul of a deceased player; however, if the Life-Stealer is the first player to die, there are no souls to steal to resurrect himself with, and thus the Life-Stealer is unable to continue to play. When the Life-Stealer is resurrected, he randomly gains the role and ability of a dead player by the host using an RNG to select a dead player. Whatever the role of the dead player, the Life-Stealer becomes that role. So, if a Townie was chosen, he would join the Townies, Third-Party (not the Lover, unless you wanted something like you would then get to choose a Lover, although I think that we're removing the Lover role), or potentially his own Mafia side or another Mafia side.

HELL YEAH...way to do it frosty

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

Re: Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9 - Part 5

yes plz add more OP roles.