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9 superdelegates? What? He won 43 delegates, Clinton won 37.136 to go and bye bye sanders, these small state wins wont matter. (todays state only had 9 super delegates anyway)
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Is it really? The republican primaries seem to have numerous "winner take all/winner take most" type of primaries.9 superdelegates? What? He won 43 delegates, Clinton won 37.
And besides, just look at that breakdown. Hillary is only winning because she commands 520 superdelegates. No one was going to be able to win over her without trouncing her in the primary elections. This is less of an indication of the support she has across the country and more of an indication that her nomination was bought and paid for by the DNC before the election cycle ever began. There is nothing democratic about this system, it's pure cronyism. I seriously doubt I'll be voting for her in November and I don't think I'll be Democrat anymore either. The party is crooked.
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What blatant lie from a politician have I believed? Everything I believe is supported by facts researched by reputable news sources.Why do you think Sharkbait cares? Hasn't it been proven that majority of conservatives don't care about facts, that they believe blatant lies?
Finally... A candidate of real change!
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But even without super delegates, clinton would win.And besides, just look at that breakdown. Hillary is only winning because she commands 520 superdelegates. No one was going to be able to win over her without trouncing her in the primary elections. This is less of an indication of the support she has across the country and more of an indication that her nomination was bought and paid for by the DNC before the election cycle ever began. There is nothing democratic about this system, it's pure cronyism. I seriously doubt I'll be voting for her in November and I don't think I'll be Democrat anymore either. The party is crooked.
I guess the question is how people would have voted if the superdelegates weren't a thing. She has had over 500 superdelegate votes since the start, such a thing can be seen as biasing the whole election for her. I am not sure if there is a way to know how the election would have turned up if superdelegates weren't a thing however as of now it is indeed the case that hillary has a significant superdelegate and delegate advantage.But even without super delegates, clinton would win.
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Or cthulhu doing a filibuster... he'd just keep going until his opponents die of old age....Finally... A candidate of real change!
Like to see someone try and filibuster Cthulhu
I hope you're not serious. That would be a wasted vote, but if you say that none of the 2 candidates represent you well enough than that's a shame.I'm probably going to write in Cthulhu tbh...
Feels bad man. Well to be fair Hillary has more delegates even without the superdelegates(though they're a huge enough wall to prevent anyone from outright defeating her by delegate count alone), but indeed there is nothing democratic at all about the superdelegates.And besides, just look at that breakdown. Hillary is only winning because she commands 520 superdelegates. No one was going to be able to win over her without trouncing her in the primary elections. This is less of an indication of the support she has across the country and more of an indication that her nomination was bought and paid for by the DNC before the election cycle ever began. There is nothing democratic about this system, it's pure cronyism. I seriously doubt I'll be voting for her in November and I don't think I'll be Democrat anymore either. The party is crooked.
Nah he ain't running anything anymore afaik. It's all Trump and Clinton now.Kasich dropped out? Third Party run for the Establishment Republicans?
I did not mean Kasich as the third party candidate, but that they will use the last resource to stop Trump and go third party via someone like Paul Ryan.Nah he ain't running anything anymore afaik. It's all Trump and Clinton now.
Oh sorry my bad, I read that as Cruz(since him dropping out was the big news as of late).I did not mean Kasich as the third party candidate, but that they will use the last resource to stop Trump and go third party via someone like Paul Ryan.
Lmao that first part is highly aggressive.So Trump finally won, I don't know what many may be feeling now, though I am looking forward to what kind of crap, Trump can pull out the thing he calls a mouth.
Anyways..what exactly, will the situation be like now? I think it goes without saying that the amount of people who Trump has alienated will hurt him somehow,how would he be stopped from entering the White House now?
Actually, how will he get elected in the first place, the delegate system is something I have not been able to wrap my head around.
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There are 700+ superdelegates that can vote however they please. Republicans only have 3 per state, and they typically vote for whoever won their state. With the Democrats, you had like 400+ that were pledged to Clinton over a year ago. That severely diminishes the value of the actual primary elections. This is the DNC saying they know better than the average citizen. There's nothing democratic about that.Is it really? The republican primaries seem to have numerous "winner take all/winner take most" type of primaries.
Why would Paul Ryan fuck himself over like that? He's the Speaker of the House.I did not mean Kasich as the third party candidate, but that they will use the last resource to stop Trump and go third party via someone like Paul Ryan.
Completely agree on this, I am even clearing my schedule when the debates start.Oh sorry my bad, I read that as Cruz(since him dropping out was the big news as of late).Kasich isn't dropping out anytime soon I believe, but he's not gonna be stopping Trump from getting the required delegates.All he can do now is run 3rd party to be as damaging as possible, but Kasich doesn't even have that much of a support to be such a huge deal. Paul Ryan could possibly be 3rd party as well, still wondering if he'll do it or not. The strongest 3rd party would definitely be Bernie Sanders, which would highly mess up the democrat win chances.
As for the GOP using all resources to stop Trump.. I doubt it. IIRC the GOP chairman confirmed Trump is going to be the nominee and they want to unify themselves against Clinton.
EDIT: Okay never mind Just read the news. Kasich is out. Not like he mattered anymore, but still nice to see the republicans are the first ones to get their nominee.
Lmao that first part is highly aggressive.
How he's getting elected? Majority of votes I'd assume. How he'll be stopped? If Clinton gets the majority of votes. If she doesn't then the majority of America simply wants Trump and they'll get it.
Has Trump alienated people? Probably, but so has Clinton. I know many Sanders supporters who aren't going to vote for her. It all depends now on how well the republican/democrat side can unify their voterbase(supporters of all the individual candidates, most notably the conservatives for Ted Cruz and the Sanders supporters) and make them vote for their nominee; who all the undecided people end up supporting, as well as the debates in the general election. I can hardly wait for the Trump-Clinton debates, I'd even pay to see them. We're in for quite the ride until November I'm sure, I doubt that Trump nor Clinton will disappoint, they'll try hard on their sides in order to win.
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And where are we now? With Trump's opponents all dropping out, and Trump becoming the republican nominee. Increasingly nervous people now repeat their mistakes as they say he has no chance in the general election, when it's clear he shouldn't be underestimated at all.
Just throwing a name out there, even tho Ryan did dismiss that, but the talk was big, also why wouldn't the Republicans consider this? They might...due to the fact that the contested convention scenario is down in the dumpster now. The RNC Chairman announced that they should come together....but I just do not trust the GOP Establishment to back off so easily. What do you think they will do?There are 700+ superdelegates that can vote however they please. Republicans only have 3 per state, and they typically vote for whoever won their state. With the Democrats, you had like 400+ that were pledged to Clinton over a year ago. That severely diminishes the value of the actual primary elections. This is the DNC saying they know better than the average citizen. There's nothing democratic about that.
Both primaries have a split between winner take all/winner takes most.
Why would Paul Ryan fuck himself over like that? He's the Speaker of the House.