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I'm not saying for sure, but it's kind of similar to Full Counter. (and that was just my guess judging from a brief fight)

I would disagree with Wiki on that, mainly because we didn't see Larcade do anything other than move his arms. But, because he stopped the sword with his fingers, it's possible his physical strength is on an extraordinary level.
Yeah his physical strength is off the charts.He stopped Archenemy with just 2 fingers and shockwave from same Archenemy destroyed a portion of Crocus,one of the largest cities in Fiore if not the largest.
 

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I'd safely say that Larcades physical stats are far above the other Spriggan 12 (except for maybe speed, in which August potentially contends). He basically pulled an Acnologia with just two fingers and little momentum (granted, the opponent was also less durable). He also stopped an extremely sharp blade with just two fingers, which makes him durability off the charts as well. Coupled with his overpowered "stun" magic he really is a force to be reckoned with. We probably haven't even seen his trump card yet. He is definitely up there.
 

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lets not wank that Jesus guy too much.


he will get one shotted by Natsu in the upcoming chapters.


or by Acnologia.
 

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lets not wank that Jesus guy too much.


he will get one shotted by Natsu in the upcoming chapters.


or by Acnologia.
I doubt it because Larcade is a Dragneel. So he will be the one to one-shot others and not vice-versa. Natsu will one-shot non Dragneel characters like August
 

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lets not wank that Jesus guy too much.


he will get one shotted by Natsu in the upcoming chapters.


or by Acnologia.
I doubt it because Larcade is a Dragneel. So he will be the one to one-shot others and not vice-versa. Natsu will one-shot non Dragneel characters like August
I don't see Natsu one-shotting Larcade either, but I also don't see him one-shotting August. August, Irene and Larcade are the TOP tier of the Spriggan 12. We're talking about the first two mentioned as the strongest male and female mage in the world. Not just a country. And Larcade is on par with them. We all know that now, with Larcade stating he's a special case like those two, but the only way I can see Natsu one-shotting anyone of that caliber is to be fully awakened as E.N.D. I'm hyped for it though! August said that if Larcade were to even be defeated it would be by Mavis' hands. So there's that battle. I see Irene vs. Erza.....given. August, hmmmm. That's a mystery to me. Maybe Natsu, but with some INSANE effort. Even then I doubt it would be a win unless it's him as E.N.D. like i mentioned before. Another possibility is that August has some artifact that gives him his immense power boosts that gets destroyed and weakens him. Something similar to Hades and his heart. Possibilities for fights and match-ups are endless, as with the outcomes. Either way, I can't wait!!!
 

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Natsu beating them is predictable. there is no one who can beat them even with team effort bar Acnologia and possibly END and END will be forced just to do that.

Hiro just fucked up this arc even more.
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I doubt it because Larcade is a Dragneel. So he will be the one to one-shot others and not vice-versa. Natsu will one-shot non Dragneel characters like August
Natsu has FT guild mark while Larcade doesn't. he stomps.
 

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I don't see Natsu one-shotting Larcade either, but I also don't see him one-shotting August. August, Irene and Larcade are the TOP tier of the Spriggan 12. We're talking about the first two mentioned as the strongest male and female mage in the world. Not just a country. And Larcade is on par with them. We all know that now, with Larcade stating he's a special case like those two, but the only way I can see Natsu one-shotting anyone of that caliber is to be fully awakened as E.N.D. I'm hyped for it though! August said that if Larcade were to even be defeated it would be by Mavis' hands. So there's that battle. I see Irene vs. Erza.....given. August, hmmmm. That's a mystery to me. Maybe Natsu, but with some INSANE effort. Even then I doubt it would be a win unless it's him as E.N.D. like i mentioned before. Another possibility is that August has some artifact that gives him his immense power boosts that gets destroyed and weakens him. Something similar to Hades and his heart. Possibilities for fights and match-ups are endless, as with the outcomes. Either way, I can't wait!!!
Natsu will probably be unconscious for a while like Gray and when they wake up, theyll take on Zeref together along with some other characters. I expect August to be taken out by Power of feelings boosted Jellal and maybe Gildarts. Larcade will be nakamified by Mavis and as he is about to switch sides, Zeref comes in and kills him or smth like

Natsu has FT guild mark while Larcade doesn't. he stomps
If Natsu were to face Larcade, he sure would stomp. He can do anything because the wank is real. But i dont think Natsu will get to fight Larcade and will face Zeref instead.
 
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Yeah his physical strength is off the charts.He stopped Archenemy with just 2 fingers and shockwave from same Archenemy destroyed a portion of Crocus,one of the largest cities in Fiore if not the largest.
Yes it could be physical strength, for sure. It's the simplest explanation.

But I speculate it's his magic, rather than his physical strength. He uses his 2 fingers to stop an attack, and the other hand can divert the attack.




He had to use magic to hurt Kagura (blue square) he didn't hit her.

It really seemed like the 2 finger thing was pointed out for us (top panel of the 2nd page) to demonstrate his magic Kinda like DiMaria clicking her teeth. Or, it could just emphasise his ridiculous strength.
 

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The last panel of the 1st page... Those slashes are Kagura's or Larcade's? :?bunny
 

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Yes it could be physical strength, for sure. It's the simplest explanation.

But I speculate it's his magic, rather than his physical strength. He uses his 2 fingers to stop an attack, and the other hand can divert the attack.




He had to use magic to hurt Kagura (blue square) he didn't hit her.

It really seemed like the 2 finger thing was pointed out for us (top panel of the 2nd page) to demonstrate his magic Kinda like DiMaria clicking her teeth. Or, it could just emphasise his ridiculous strength.
I dont see it. There isnt any aura surrounding his fingers or anything. There is no magic in the blue square as far as I can see, the stuff around the hand is to show momnetum/movement (so is the stream following the hand). He basically just used 4 fingers as a piercing attack similar to what Acnologia did with his claw against Serena.
The last panel of the 1st page... Those slashes are Kagura's or Larcade's? :?bunny
Those are Kaguras. The panel basically shows Kagura taking multiple swings at Larcade in quick succession all of which are met with Larcades two fingers.
 

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I dont see it. There isnt any aura surrounding his fingers or anything. There is no magic in the blue square as far as I can see, the stuff around the hand is to show momnetum/movement (so is the stream following the hand). He basically just used 4 fingers as a piercing attack similar to what Acnologia did with his claw against Serena.
If he's using strength to hit her, when did he touch her? She's too far away, given his stance, and the sword itself furthering the distance between them. He could hit her, but he'd have to drop his left hand... or at the very least move his feet.
 

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If he's using strength to hit her, when did he touch her? She's too far away, given his stance, and the sword itself furthering the distance between them. He could hit her, but he'd have to drop his left hand... or at the very least move his feet.
He cut her down with his hand, he even have a stream of momentum following it. Kagura is simply drawn a little farther then she should have been, its just an artistic inconsistency (not the first and not the last), I don't even see her left arm in that panel. If he could stop Archenemy with two fingers cutting her down with his hand shouldn't even be that hard.
 

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He cut her down with his hand, he even have a stream of momentum following it. Kagura is simply drawn a little farther then she should have been, its just an artistic inconsistency (not the first and not the last), I don't even see her left arm in that panel. If he could stop Archenemy with two fingers cutting her down with his hand shouldn't even be that hard.
Where is the stream of momentum following through? If you're talking about the right hand (blue square) those 'streams' would be like 10-20cm. The panel's perspective makes it appear like he's moved, but those streams are barely longer than the width of his sleeve.

Without moving his feet, the best he could do is touch the hilt of her sword imo. His reach is not far enough. To hit her he'd have to move his feet, and change the orientation of his left hand which doesn't happen between the top and bottom panel.
 

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Where is the stream of momentum following through? If you're talking about the right hand (blue square) those 'streams' would be like 10-20cm. The panel's perspective makes it appear like he's moved, but those streams are barely longer than the width of his sleeve.

Without moving his feet, the best he could do is touch the hilt of her sword imo. His reach is not far enough. To hit her he'd have to move his feet, and change the orientation of his left hand which doesn't happen between the top and bottom panel.
Again, its simply an artistic inconsistency, the same inconsistency that had hiro forget Kaguras left arm in that very same panel. Im not really sure what you mena by switch his orientation. The sequence of events goes as follows:

1) Kagura attacks
2) Larcade stops it with two fingers
3) Kagura backs away
4) Kagura strikes again several times in one panel, all of which get blocked by two fingers
5) The last attack is aimed at Larcades left side and he once again tanks it with two fingers and at the same time cuts Kagura down

I don't see any magic or even hint of magic being used. The panel perspective doesn't have him move at all, he is standing in one spot while Kagura throws a barrage of useless attacks his way and strikes her down with the last one. As for the stream, yeah its jut like any other stream, its done to show extremely high speed movement passing (like the stream that jets have behind them).
 

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Again, its simply an artistic inconsistency, the same inconsistency that had hiro forget Kaguras left arm in that very same panel.
Okay, but how do you explain Larcade hitting Kagura. Keep in mind he doesn't move his feet (or he might have just not shown), and he keeps his left hand on the blade.

Im not really sure what you mena by switch his orientation
The top panel shows Larcade stop the blade with his left hand, his arm is straight down just like the bottom panel. It implies this arm is fixed in position, yet he's still able to hit Kagura.

I don't see any magic or even hint of magic being used
I can agree with that, you cannot see anything. And it could be a totally magicless display. But it's not certainly that way. When we first encountered Age Seal, you could have suggest that DiMaria is that quick she could cut people's clothes up. I'm only speculating.

The panel perspective doesn't have him move at all
I was mainly referring to the angle, but I do agree he doesn't move. That's why I find it hard to believe he hit her. Moreover I couldn't compare it to Acnologia's hit on Serena, since he physically moved to make it happen.

I'm not totally disagreeing with you, just questioning the explanation of what happened, since the panels themselves don't clearly demonstrate that Larcade physically injured Kagura with his hand (using strength).
 

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Maybe you are right @Brandish .Because the panel you posted(where we see Kagura being slashed by Larcade) we should go back a page behind where Larcade says,"August,Irene and I are not like the rest" you will see shockwave hitting Kagura(at the bottom of the page).Maybe it was Full Counter like you suggested and Kagura's own flash.
 

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Okay, but how do you explain Larcade hitting Kagura. Keep in mind he doesn't move his feet (or he might have just not shown), and he keeps his left hand on the blade.
Like I said before, the thing that is confusing you is the art inconsistency. Am I correct in saying that you believe Larcade used some sort of magic because his reach wouldn't enable him to slash her? What I am saying is that Kagura only looks far because of art inconsistency, hiro simply did not look into exactly how close Larcade would have to be to hit Kagura like that. The fact that Kaguras left arm is missing is proof enough that it isn't some hint at Larcades magic, its literally just him cutting Kagura like butter. I feel like its just overanalyzing it.

Maybe you are right @Brandish .Because the panel you posted(where we see Kagura being slashed by Larcade) we should go back a page behind where Larcade says,"August,Irene and I are not like the rest" you will see shockwave hitting Kagura(at the bottom of the page).Maybe it was Full Counter like you suggested and Kagura's own flash.
Why would he move his entire right arm then in a cutting motion and blood splattering out of the area he would have hit (not the fingers which is what Kagura hit). Thats not a shockwave, those black lines signify that Kagura is in movement.
 

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Strong Ranking as like as One Piece Bounty(:^_^)

12Spriggan:
Top Three Commandants:
Firstmate: August 1.400.000.000B
Irene 1.100.000.000B
Larcarde: 940.000.000B

Commandants:
GodSerena: 630.000.000B
Dimaria: 610.000.000B
Invel: 530.000.000B
Bradman: 490.000.000B
Whal: 480.000.000B
Ajeel: 460.000.000B
Brandish: 450.000.000B
Jacob: 370.000.000B
Neinhart: 350.000.000B

haha is a fun ranking but i like it.
Most Bounty is the strongest and the lowest are weeks spriggan.
I hope August show next time monster attacks.:smile-big
 

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What I am saying is that Kagura only looks far because of art inconsistency
If you ignore the inconsistency, and just think about how someone could block Kagura's sword like Larcade did, and maintain his stance... then is it possible for him to slash Kagura with his hand? No.

That's why I speculate it's magic. Him being that physically strong is the simplest explanation, but I'm not certain of it right now.

The fact that Kaguras left arm is missing is proof enough that it isn't some hint at Larcades magic, its literally just him cutting Kagura like butter
How is this a proof of anything?
 

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So I was thinking about Bradman's Three Seals today and I think (with @Emperor Spriggan's invaluable help) I've cracked how it works:

First Seal: MBP's are released and anyone who can't stop/resist them die in moments.
Second Seal: It is used to trap the opponents and the only way to break out it by using Holy Attribute Magic (Gajeel was helpless until Levy appeared).
Third Seal (specifically Over Skelter): Creates a whirlpool of life draining skulls that drains until the opponent is dead.

This is extremely lethal given that whilst they're trapped in the Second Seal, Over Skelter makes it even harder to escape and rapidly steals their life force. In addition to this he can launch a barrage of curses whilst they're trapped.

Hopefully this will clear things up about Bradman in the Domus Flau, the only reason Gajeevy survived is because they were direct counters.

Again, massive thanks to @Emperor Spriggan, I couldn't have figured this out without his help. :super
 
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