Fantasy Laxus Dreyar vs Erza Scarlet

[sharkai]

You missed the part where he was choking her to death did you?
Laxus can in my books, feel free to disagree, but we've already argued it plenty.
Laxus tier isnt enough to oneshot Acno.

And without Wendy enchanting her magic into Erza's sword Erza wouldnt even have been able to scratch Eileen. Wendy was irreplaceable in this fight, Erza couldnt have won without her(or maybe Eileen wouldve just killed herself sooner). Which is why im not ranking her above Natsu, her power alone couldnt beat a top tier spriggan, its not what was proved amazing last chapter, her power with Wendy at her side was(though even the two of them arent at Eileens level).

So ajeel landed one hit or grab and thats beating her up.
Unbelievable
Well wahl was also beating crap out of laxus by your language

Well in real book laxus cant one shot springgan till actually shows it. And he cant even do any sort of real damage to top tier springgan. He can only fight springgan ajeel or wahl tier. And will get stomped by irene tier quite easily.

Wendy gave her ds magic. She did not increase her power. Point was ds. Not power.

Natsu power cant beat top tier either. Nor can laxus.
Nor laxus or natsu could do anything to that meteor.
You just make arbitary standard to justify bs.
Natsu hasnt shown to over power august top tier move. Nor laxus.
But erza has

Thus she is equal to those people who hasnt. And she is below a mage who needed pof to even take out wahl while wahl was laughing his head off. He didnt even over power his etherion cannon

The wank

 

[Seven777]

So ajeel landed one hit or grab and thats beating her up.
Unbelievable
Well wahl was also beating crap out of laxus by your language

Well in real book laxus cant one shot springgan till actually shows it. And he cant even do any sort of real damage to top tier springgan. He can only fight springgan ajeel or wahl tier. And will get stomped by irene tier quite easily.

Wendy gave her ds magic. She did not increase her power. Point was ds. Not power.

Natsu power cant beat top tier either. Nor can laxus.
Nor laxus or natsu could do anything to that meteor.
You just make arbitary standard to justify bs.
Natsu hasnt shown to over power august top tier move. Nor laxus.
But erza has

Thus she is equal to those people who hasnt. And she is below a mage who needed pof to even take out wahl while wahl was laughing his head off. He didnt even over power his etherion cannon

The wank

Yes, Wahl was beating the crap outa Laxus by my language.

So you're writing the real book are you? No, your word isnt fact, its just the opinion of another fan. My opinion is that Laxus can oneshot average spriggans, your opinion is that he cant, there is nothing more to it.

She wasnt capable of beating a top tier spriggan alone, or with help, thus she is below top tier spriggans, just like Natsu and Laxus.
She hasnt even been shown to defeat an ordinary spriggan alone. I am giving Erza the benefit of the doubt here, by calling her Natsu tier and assuming she could defeat an average spriggan despite her performance against Azir. The reason i am giving this to her is because Meteor busting is impressive, but in the end she also couldnt stop Eileen's casual claw swipe nor Azir's casual choke, so im not gonna go around wanking her like you

 

[sharkai]

Yes, Wahl was beating the crap outa Laxus by my language.

So you're writing the real book are you? No, your word isnt fact, its just the opinion of another fan. My opinion is that Laxus can oneshot average spriggans, your opinion is that he cant, there is nothing more to it.

She wasnt capable of beating a top tier spriggan alone, or with help, thus she is below top tier spriggans, just like Natsu and Laxus.
She hasnt even been shown to defeat an ordinary spriggan alone. I am giving Erza the benefit of the doubt here, by calling her Natsu tier and assuming she could defeat an average spriggan despite her performance against Azir. The reason i am giving this to her is because Meteor busting is impressive, but in the end she also couldnt stop Eileen's casual claw swipe nor Azir's casual choke, so im not gonna go around wanking her like you

So instead you just wank laxus

No my is not an opinion. Laxus has not one shot any springgan. Thats a fact whether you like it or not

Laxus hasnt even over powered a mid tier springgan top tier move. How is he even near erza who has over powered irene top tier move.

I suppose you think irene cant even one shot wahl with deus sema. And erza cant even one shot wahl with that meteor destrying move.
Lol

Irene is tiers above wahl whether you like it or not
Her offence is tier above wahl whether you like it or not

Which shows
Erza speed > laxus speed
Because erza could dodge irene nukes same way laxus could dodge wahl nukes

Erza attack power >>>> laxus attack power
Because erza over power deus sema. While laxus cant even over power wahl etherion.

 

[Seven777]

So instead you just wank laxus

No my is not an opinion. Laxus has not one shot any springgan. Thats a fact whether you like it or not

Laxus hasnt even over powered a mid tier springgan top tier move. How is he even near erza who has over powered irene top tier move.

I suppose you think irene cant even one shot wahl with deus sema. And erza cant even one shot wahl with that meteor destrying move.
Lol

Irene is tiers above wahl whether you like it or not
Her offence is tier above wahl whether you like it or not

Which shows
Erza speed > laxus speed
Because erza could dodge irene nukes same way laxus could dodge wahl nukes

Erza attack power >>>> laxus attack power
Because erza over power deus sema. While laxus cant even over power wahl etherion.

Not really. In fact i might be wanking Erza a bit too much cause i dont like her being behind Gray and Natsu, but destroying Deus Sema is a good enough feat that i think i can get away with calling her their equal

So what you're basically saying is that im not allowed to have the opinion that Laxus can oneshot a spriggan, that it?

Overpowering another spriggans technique isnt a prerequisite for being strong. Defeating an actual spriggan is more than enough, all the better if you can do it solo(something Erza hasnt done)

I do think Eileen could oneshot Wahl with Deus Sema, I dont think Erza could with the Deus Sema destroying move. I do think Wahl could blast Deus Sema out of the sky with Etherion though

When did i say Eileen wasnt tiers above Wahl?

No, it really doesnt. Erza didnt blitz Eileen.

Erza's attack power + Wendy's enchanting power, with DS advantage>>>Laxus attack power, sure.

Well actually Laxus did overpower Etherion with his Runes.

 

[Jko]

Irene never held back because she was her kid stop it. Irene's emotions only kicked in at the end because she laughed.

She said she always loved her. Subconsciously Irene held back. She toyed with them from the beginning. If Irene wanted to actually kill Erza then Erza would've been oneshotted via transmutation or claw swipe.

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Well actually Laxus did overpower Etherion with his Runes.

Laxus never overpowered Etherion. Wall didn't want to get caught in the backlash.

 

[EmptySoul]

Laxus>>>>>>>>>>>Erza

 

[Seven777]

Laxus never overpowered Etherion. Wall didn't want to get caught in the backlash.

That right? Never really thought about it to be honest. But whether you're right or wrong in the end Etherion didnt go off and Laxus was the cause

 

[Takuan]

I already thought some Erza wankers were insaney ridiculous but now with the latest chapter things have gone overboard. Some comments amaze me. Sigh.


Anyway... Erza's strength didn't suddenly increase, she's the same Erza that couldn't beat Ajeel. Laxus is still superior to her by a fair margin. Those who think otherwise are delusional.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

Laxus still wins. This thread shouldn't even have this many pages. I'm sure everything will go back to normal in approximately 2 weeks and Sharkai will lose whatever brethren he gained from this chapter.

I already thought some Erza wankers were insaney ridiculous but now with the latest chapter things have gone overboard. Some comments amaze me. Sigh.


Anyway... Erza's strength didn't suddenly increase, she's the same Erza that couldn't beat Ajeel. Laxus is still superior to her by a fair margin. Those who think otherwise are delusional.

lol it's a lost cause my dude. If they wanna live in their own dream land then so be it. The good thing is that at least the majority of us are still sane.

 

[sharkai]

I already thought some Erza wankers were insaney ridiculous but now with the latest chapter things have gone overboard. Some comments amaze me. Sigh.


Anyway... Erza's strength didn't suddenly increase, she's the same Erza that couldn't beat Ajeel. Laxus is still superior to her by a fair margin. Those who think otherwise are delusional.

Yeah i guess
Destroying deus sema didnt show she had extreme amount of power which laxus hasnt shown.

Yeah the retards

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Laxus still wins. This thread shouldn't even have this many pages. I'm sure everything will go back to normal in approximately 2 weeks and Sharkai will lose whatever brethren he gained from this chapter.

lol it's a lost cause my dude. If they wanna live in their own dream land then so be it. The good thing is that at least the majority of us are still sane.

I am not the erza greatest wanker
Mishma is

I like the talk about dream land
Where people believe all laxus wank. But throw every other hype out in the trash can

 

[Crimson Ice]

She said she always loved her. Subconsciously Irene held back. She toyed with them from the beginning. If Irene wanted to actually kill Erza then Erza would've been oneshotted via transmutation or claw swipe.

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Laxus never overpowered Etherion. Wall didn't want to get caught in the backlash.

She never subconsciously held back, nothing implied to that, especially when she dropped a damn meteor on her head after crush nearly ever bone her in body. Irene can't transmutate anyone she wants while she already tried to kill her via claw swipe.......And guess what, it didn't work, she also tried to drop a meteor on her right after and that didn't work.

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Yeah i guess
Destroying deus sema didnt show she had extreme amount of power which laxus hasnt shown.

Yeah the retards

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I am not the erza greatest wanker
Mishma is

I like the talk about dream land
Where people believe all laxus wank. But throw every other hype out in the trash can

Why are people acting like Dues Sema is impressive size wise? The meteor was no bigger than the guild hall stop it.

 

[sharkai]

Not really. In fact i might be wanking Erza a bit too much cause i dont like her being behind Gray and Natsu, but destroying Deus Sema is a good enough feat that i think i can get away with calling her their equal

So what you're basically saying is that im not allowed to have the opinion that Laxus can oneshot a spriggan, that it?

Overpowering another spriggans technique isnt a prerequisite for being strong. Defeating an actual spriggan is more than enough, all the better if you can do it solo(something Erza hasnt done)

I do think Eileen could oneshot Wahl with Deus Sema, I dont think Erza could with the Deus Sema destroying move. I do think Wahl could blast Deus Sema out of the sky with Etherion though

When did i say Eileen wasnt tiers above Wahl?

No, it really doesnt. Erza didnt blitz Eileen.

Erza's attack power + Wendy's enchanting power, with DS advantage>>>Laxus attack power, sure.

Well actually Laxus did overpower Etherion with his Runes.

You are wanking laxus
And dehyping erza as much as you can

Thats why you think natsu can over power august most strongest move to be placed near erza

Sure you can. Just the way someone can have an opnion that erza can beat aconologia.
Both are equally stupid opinion

Over powering an attack is the best feat of strength.
Defeating a springgan who isnt even defending himself like wahl is not a good show of power.

No you dont think irene is tier above wahl. Otherwise you wont say crap like wahl etherion would do shit to deus sema.

You want to see wank. You want to see naked bais.
Here it is
Irene who would have better understanding of all springgan under her believe that no human can stop her deus sema. She was in complete shock when erza did it
Your response. Wahl can destroy it
August says its painful to lose a comrade
Your response LAXUS CAN ONE SHOT ACONOLOGIA !!!! Yeah!!!

and of course you believe laxus can stop deus sema too. Even though he hasnt even shown quarter of that strenght.

I fixed it for you
"Erza's attack power + Wendy's enchanting DS advantage>>>>>>Laxus attack power with lightening advantage (with wahl spreading his arms as if to welcome the hit)"

And erza attack power (against meteor) with pof >>>>>>>> laxus red lightening with pof and advantage

And irene is faster than wahl. Dodging her nukes is much more superior feat than dodging wahl nukes
As for blitzing wahl. Erza has already blitzed ajeel.

In your dream land again.
Wahl etherion. Which is tiers weakers than deus sema. When he saw laxus ass pulled freed runes. Then he removed the runes. Laxus never even touch etherion. I dont even think we saw much of it.

 

[Seven777]

You are wanking laxus
And dehyping erza as much as you can

Hahaha, you really gotta get that chip off your shoulder dude. Seems like whenever you talk to anyone these days you're accusing them of wanking or dehyping. Is it really that big a deal that some people have different opinions to yours? That hard to believe that people genuinely just arent as impressed by Erza as you are?
Why cant you just have your own opinion, and then let other people have there own opinions. I mean arguing a point or disagreeing with an opinion is all well and good, but do you gotta go and accuse everyone you talk to of wanking purely because their opinion isnt the same as yours?

Thats why you think natsu can over power august most strongest move to be placed near erza

Well Natsu already negated Melt, so theirs that lol.

Sure you can. Just the way someone can have an opnion that erza can beat aconologia.
Both are equally stupid opinion

See what i mean? Chip, right there, on your shoulder. No need to call my opinion stupid, just disagree.

Over powering an attack is the best feat of strength.
Defeating a springgan who isnt even defending himself like wahl is not a good show of power.

Defeating a spriggan>defeating a top tier spriggans attack.

No you dont think irene is tier above wahl. Otherwise you wont say crap like wahl etherion would do shit to deus sema.

Uh... yes i would. Erza did shit to Deus Sema, are you telling me that Eileen isnt a tier above Erza?

You want to see wank. You want to see naked bais.
Here it is
Irene who would have better understanding of all springgan under her believe that no human can stop her deus sema. She was in complete shock when erza did it
Your response. Wahl can destroy it
August says its painful to lose a comrade
Your response LAXUS CAN ONE SHOT ACONOLOGIA !!!! Yeah!!!

Oh whats that?? Right there.... you got something on your shoulder. Oh, nevermind, its just that chip i saw before.
So anyway, Eileen didnt think Erza could destroy it, which makes sense because Eileen probably doesnt consider her Spriggan tier. Also, the only spriggan who is her subordinant is Neinhart. the rest(including herself and Neinhart) serve under August. As for her knowing their power, extremely unlikely. She hasnt seen Brandish in years, and it was stated numerous times that spriggans rarely come together.

and of course you believe laxus can stop deus sema too. Even though he hasnt even shown quarter of that strenght.

Yeah prob, the nuke he shot at Azir would prob do the job, it was far, far larger.

I fixed it for you
"Erza's attack power + Wendy's enchanting DS advantage>>>>>>Laxus attack power with lightening advantage (with wahl spreading his arms as if to welcome the hit)"

I'll fix that for you "Erza's attack power + Wendy's enchanting DS advantage(with Eileen, jaw hanging open as if to welcome the hit)>>>Laxus attack power when hitting someone immune to lightning"

And erza attack power (against meteor) with pof >>>>>>>> laxus red lightening with pof and advantage

Defeating an actual spriggan>defeating a top tier spriggans attack

And irene is faster than wahl. Dodging her nukes is much more superior feat than dodging wahl nukes
As for blitzing wahl. Erza has already blitzed ajeel.

No, she didnt, not without Baqel distracting him.

In your dream land again.
Wahl etherion. Which is tiers weakers than deus sema. When he saw laxus ass pulled freed runes. Then he removed the runes. Laxus never even touch etherion. I dont even think we saw much of it.

Oh, so Laxus just stopped Etherion from being cast, i see.

 

[sharkai]

Hahaha, you really gotta get that chip off your shoulder dude. Seems like whenever you talk to anyone these days you're accusing them of wanking or dehyping. Is it really that big a deal that some people have different opinions to yours? That hard to believe that people genuinely just arent as impressed by Erza as you are?
Why cant you just have your own opinion, and then let other people have there own opinions. I mean arguing a point or disagreeing with an opinion is all well and good, but do you gotta go and accuse everyone you talk to of wanking purely because their opinion isnt the same as yours?

Well Natsu already negated Melt, so theirs that lol.
See what i mean? Chip, right there, on your shoulder. No need to call my opinion stupid, just disagree.
Defeating a spriggan>defeating a top tier spriggans attack.
Uh... yes i would. Erza did shit to Deus Sema, are you telling me that Eileen isnt a tier above Erza?
Oh whats that?? Right there.... you got something on your shoulder. Oh, nevermind, its just that chip i saw before.
So anyway, Eileen didnt think Erza could destroy it, which makes sense because Eileen probably doesnt consider her Spriggan tier. Also, the only spriggan who is her subordinant is Neinhart. the rest(including herself and Neinhart) serve under August. As for her knowing their power, extremely unlikely. She hasnt seen Brandish in years, and it was stated numerous times that spriggans rarely come together.

Yeah prob, the nuke he shot at Azir would prob do the job, it was far, far larger.

I'll fix that for you "Erza's attack power + Wendy's enchanting DS advantage(with Eileen, jaw hanging open as if to welcome the hit)>>>Laxus attack power when hitting someone immune to lightning"

Defeating an actual spriggan>defeating a top tier spriggans attack

No, she didnt, not without Baqel distracting him.
Oh, so Laxus just stopped Etherion from being cast, i see.

You do have a point
So next time i say
Gmg rufus low diff gmg jura
You wont say anything against it. Defend my opnion. If someone attacks me you will talk about those chips.
Great. I will remember this. Thanks man

Melt is extreme low tier move of august. And he negated with advantage u1.
I think the term grasping at straws comes here

Defeating a springgan is better?
Ok, i am assuming then you believe defeating rufus is a better feat than over powering mt fuji the strongest jura attack

That would just means erza is tiers above wahl. No she did not believe erza couldnt destroy it. She said no human can.

Open mouth shows shock of irene.
Remember how august causally hyped up laxus. Compare that with irene expression. Laxus nuke is nowhere near that awe worthy.
Aoe doesnt mean much. Unless you think minerva gmg nuke is above laxus red lightening.

Baqel distracted both. And she blitz him before too

Yes laxus stoped wahl from casting etherion. A feat speed str can do. Its not a strenght feat by any means.

My problem is the way people show their bais.
Different standards for different
The shock on irene feats seems to mean nothing at this moment. Apparently everyone can do it.


Erza power is not my concern. Because whether anyone likes it or not she is mary sue. Mishma is gonna wank her. Laxus not so much.

 

[Seven777]

You do have a point
So next time i say
Gmg rufus low diff gmg jura
You wont say anything against it. Defend my opnion. If someone attacks me you will talk about those chips.
Great. I will remember this. Thanks man

Go ahead.
Dont blame me if people start ignoring you though.
You're welcome

Melt is extreme low tier move of august. And he negated with advantage u1.
I think the term grasping at straws comes here

B-B-But it was so big, and so flashy!!!

Defeating a springgan is better?
Ok, i am assuming then you believe defeating rufus is a better feat than over powering mt fuji the strongest jura attack

Well destroying one is. Bottom line? i think Wahl's body is more durable than that Meteor.
The meteor was a physical object that could be destroyed, its not a wave of energy like Mt Fuji (though it wouldve been if it hit the ground).
so i cant really comment on the Rufus thing because
1. I have no idea how you would go about destroying a beam coming up from the ground. And
2. Because Erza destroyed the Meteor while it was still a physical object in the sky, she didnt overpower the blast wave that would have been created had the meteor landed.
A closer analogy would be Minerva destroying Benisakura when she fought Erza, or Kyoka destroying Armadura Fairy, compare that to beating someone far weaker than Erza like Rufus and i would still say beating Rufus is the better feat.

Actually just to be fair (and so you wont complain to me) i'll go ahead and say obliterating Rufus(literally)>Destroying/Negating/Blocking(Or however one would go about it) Rumbling Mt Fuji

That would just means erza is tiers above wahl. No she did not erza couldnt destroy it. She said no human can.

So.... according to you if I say Wahl can do shit to Deus Sema i HAVE believe that Wahl is on Eileen's tier. But as we've seen Erza can do shit to Deus Sema, so logically that means you HAVE to think Erza is on Eileen's tier. Is that right?

Open mouth shows shock of irene.
Remember how august causally hyped up laxus. Compare that with irene expression. Laxus nuke is nowhere near that awe worthy.
Aoe doesnt mean much. Unless you think minerva gmg nuke is above laxus red lightening.

Just means Erza was being underestimated before that. Oh, RL destroys the nuke too . Deus Sema wasnt complete till it hit the ground, while in the air there are quite a few people who could destroy it imo.

Baqel distracted both. And she blitz him before too

Yep, and no she didnt.

Yes laxus stoped wahl from casting etherion. A feat speed str can do. Its not a strenght feat by any means.

If you say so.

My problem is the way people show their bais.
Different standards for different

I know. But maybe you should consider that people just might genuinely think that way. They dont necessarily have standards for anything, some people just find things more impressive when they see them. You dont need to over analyse how comparable different feats are to see who is bias. Maybe they just see a feat more impressive than another purely because it looks more impressive to them. Nothing wrong with just going with a gut feeling.

Erza power is not my concern. Because whether anyone likes it or not she is mary sue. Mishma is gonna wank her. Laxus not so much.

Sure, she might be, Natsu might be too. But in the end Laxus is and always has been portrayed as a power house, a guy who takes out the trash, similar to Gildarts. Because of this people view him strong, just the way it is

 

[sharkai]

Go ahead.
Dont blame me if people start ignoring you though.
You're welcome
B-B-But it was so big, and so flashy!!!
Well destroying one is. Bottom line? i think Wahl's body is more durable than that Meteor.
The meteor was a physical object that could be destroyed, its not a wave of energy like Mt Fuji (though it wouldve been if it hit the ground).
so i cant really comment on the Rufus thing because
1. I have no idea how you would go about destroying a beam coming up from the ground. And
2. Because Erza destroyed the Meteor while it was still a physical object in the sky, she didnt overpower the blast wave that would have been created had the meteor landed.
A closer analogy would be Minerva destroying Benisakura when she fought Erza, or Kyoka destroying Armadura Fairy, compare that to beating someone far weaker than Erza like Rufus and i would still say beating Rufus is the better feat.

Actually just to be fair (and so you wont complain to me) i'll go ahead and say obliterating Rufus(literally)>Destroying/Negating/Blocking(Or however one would go about it) Rumbling Mt Fuji
So.... according to you if I say Wahl can do shit to Deus Sema i HAVE believe that Wahl is on Eileen's tier. But as we've seen Erza can do shit to Deus Sema, so logically that means you HAVE to think Erza is on Eileen's tier. Is that right?
Just means Erza was being underestimated before that. Oh, RL destroys the nuke too . Deus Sema wasnt complete till it hit the ground, while in the air there are quite a few people who could destroy it imo.

Yep, and no she didnt.

If you say so.

I know. But maybe you should consider that people just might genuinely think that way. They dont necessarily have standards for anything, some people just find things more impressive when they see them. You dont need to over analyse how comparable different feats are to see who is bias. Maybe they just see a feat more impressive than another purely because it looks more impressive to them. Nothing wrong with just going with a gut feeling.


Sure, she might be, Natsu might be too. But in the end Laxus is and always has been portrayed as a power house, a guy who takes out the trash, similar to Gildarts. Because of this people view him strong, just the way it is

Well i do have standards.
And i stick with them.
I dont change them willy nilly like people do here.

In Black wing armour she blitzed him right after marin plus ajeel attack. Ajeel went flying into the ship


I am ready to accept that mira was trash talking erza. That is why she said she plus erza couldnt take jura in gmg.
Also august might have seriously underestimated ajeel. He could probably tank laxus nuke.
I am ready to change character statements to meet my specific needs. If you are too.

Dues sema was complete.
Why do i get a feeling you are treating dues sema as a bomb. Its not. Its like every other spell. You can cut it. You can crash it. You can burn it.
To do that you have to over power irene top tier move. And
its most damaging point is ground zero. Just like laxus nuke. The explosion around it is just a plus . The main power is in the center

You already have example of over powering top tier move
Gildard crashed the bluenote black hole
I never thought zancrow could do that
Same way i do think jura would havr been in serious trouble once sema was completely cast in gmg. Not that rufus could have stopped it.
Same with mt fuji. It can be cut as well. Crashed too. Burned too.
Again natsu was shown burning zeref magic. Zeref was quite shocked

Once a attack is over powered. It is generally assumed that the one who over powered it out put more power than was used in that attack. That is exactly why irene was shotting bricks

But people forgot all about it now. Once erza did this. Everyone can do it.

How i see bais
Well mishma showed how powerful dues sema should be. He hyped it to hell. And he made it clear no one could do what erza did.
People just ignored it

Laxus nuke on the other hand got a small statement hype.
And its again look like nothing more truther can be ever stated. Like holy grail.

You cant blame me after seeing this

 

[Seven777]

Well i do have standards.
And i stick with them.
I dont change them willy nilly like people do here.

Well thats nice, but i wouldnt go expecting everyone else to hold those same standards. Some statements simply feel like they should be taken more seriously than others and some feats simply feel more impressive.

In Black wing armour she blitzed him right after marin plus ajeel attack. Ajeel went flying into the ship

Azir blocked the attack, its not a blitz if you block it.

I am ready to accept that mira was trash talking erza. That is why she said she plus erza couldnt take jura in gmg.
Also august might have seriously underestimated ajeel. He could probably tank laxus nuke.
I am ready to change character statements to meet my specific needs. If you are too.

Feel free to, i'll simply disagree.

Dues sema was complete.
Why do i get a feeling you are treating dues sema as a bomb. Its not. Its like every other spell. You can cut it. You can crash it. You can burn it.
To do that you have to over power irene top tier move. And
its most damaging point is ground zero. Just like laxus nuke. The explosion around it is just a plus . The main power is in the center

Because thats exactly how i am treating it.

You already have example of over powering top tier move
Gildard crashed the bluenote black hole
I never thought zancrow could do that
Same way i do think jura would havr been in serious trouble once sema was completely cast in gmg. Not that rufus could have stopped it.
Same with mt fuji. It can be cut as well. Crashed too. Burned too.
Again natsu was shown burning zeref magic. Zeref was quite shocked

Uhuh, but it was Gildarts specific magic that let him do that, which is why i said i wouldnt comment on it. Too hard to guess how a unique magic will affect another unique magic, would fire work on a black hole or would it get sucked up? Who knows? I dont think Mt Fuji could be burned, even if the fire was from a Gildarts tier wizard, however i do think it could be crashed, different magics work differently, you know?. Its a lot easier to judge when the magic in question is a physical object. Which is why i compared it to destroying Erza's armor or swords.

Once a attack is over powered. It is generally assumed that the one who over powered it out put more power than was used in that attack. That is exactly why irene was shotting bricks

But people forgot all about it now. Once erza did this. Everyone can do it.

So what you're saying is, Erza's slash is more powerful than Deus Sema?

How i see bais
Well mishma showed how powerful dues sema should be. He hyped it to hell. And he made it clear no one could do what erza did.
People just ignored it

Laxus nuke on the other hand got a small statement hype.
And its again look like nothing more truther can be ever stated. Like holy grail.

You cant blame me after seeing this

You can see it, you can call it a double standard, and you can accuse everyone else of being bias, but some people just may not see it the same way you do. You get the impression from the manga that when Erza destroyed the meteor, Mashima was saying "no one else can do this", however I and i'd assume most others just get the impression that Mashima was saying "This is amazing", we simply see it a different way. Doesnt make us bias.
To my mind August's hype for Laxus is Mashima saying he can oneshot Azir, to your mind its not. But im not gonna call you bias for not believing Laxus can oneshot Azir, but still believing Erza was the only one who couldve destroyed that Meteor. Im simply going to disagree.

 

[sharkai]

Well thats nice, but i wouldnt go expecting everyone else to hold those same standards. Some statements simply feel like they should be taken more seriously than others and some feats simply feel more impressive.
Azir blocked the attack, its not a blitz if you block it.
Feel free to, i'll simply disagree.
Because thats exactly how i am treating it.
Uhuh, but it was Gildarts specific magic that let him do that, which is why i said i wouldnt comment on it. Too hard to guess how a unique magic will affect another unique magic, would fire work on a black hole or would it get sucked up? Who knows? I dont think Mt Fuji could be burned, even if the fire was from a Gildarts tier wizard, however i do think it could be crashed, different magics work differently, you know?. Its a lot easier to judge when the magic in question is a physical object. Which is why i compared it to destroying Erza's armor or swords.

So what you're saying is, Erza's slash is more powerful than Deus Sema?
You can see it, you can call it a double standard, and you can accuse everyone else of being bias, but some people just may not see it the same way you do. You get the impression from the manga that when Erza destroyed the meteor, Mashima was saying "no one else can do this", however I and i'd assume most others just get the impression that Mashima was saying "This is amazing", we simply see it a different way. Doesnt make us bias.
To my mind August's hype for Laxus is Mashima saying he can oneshot Azir, to your mind its not. But im not gonna call you bias for not believing Laxus can oneshot Azir, but still believing Erza was the only one who couldve destroyed that Meteor. Im simply going to disagree.

Why are you treating it as a bomb. Its not a bomb.
Ajeel jumping and punching laxus causual nuke is good analogy for this.
Its not just a rock which kagura can cut through. Its irene strongest move. Its gonna have her power in it. And would be comparable to august strongest.
Normal springgan over powering it means koyoka could over power memento mori. Or lyon could over mt fuji. Or zaldo could over power bluenote black hole.
This a top tier move is being draged to such a low level

Yeah erza strike was stronger. Thats the pof part. That was why irene was so shocked
What do you mean amazing. Irene clearly said no one can do it.
And i think you believe nearly everyone can do it. How is it amazing when nearly everyone can do it.

Yes natsu now can burn bluenote black hole. He can even burn sting light magic.

People give me standards. And then i use them. Remember you your self gsaid character statement above personal statement. It seems to have changed recently.

 

[Takuan]

Yeah erza strike was stronger. Thats the pof part. That was why irene was so shocked
What do you mean amazing. Irene clearly said no one can do it.
And i think you believe nearly everyone can do it. How is it amazing when nearly everyone can do it.

Come on now... Jura was said to not be beatable by any human since he was, i quote, the strongest human wizard. Well, Laxus beat him.
Larcade, trump card versus Acno, was said to be able to defeat anyone and that only her mother would be able to stop him. Well, Sting beat him.
Age Seal was said by Dimaria to be her time and hers alone. Well, it was Ultear's as well. And END's.

At some point you need to read between the lines. Jura Larcade and Age Seal were hyped a lot, but none of these statements were true in the end. The fact that Irene says nobody can stop her meteor only proves that Erza's feat is amazing. It doesn't prove at all that she's the only one capable of that feat.

 

[Seven777]

Why are you treating it as a bomb. Its not a bomb.

Judging by how Jellal's Sema went down, and Erza's fear of what would happen should it make it to the ground, its pretty damn similar.

Ajeel jumping and punching laxus causual nuke is good analogy for this.

If you say so.

Yeah erza strike was stronger. Thats the pof part. That was why irene was so shocked

I disagree here, Deus Sema definitely had more MP in it imo.

What do you mean amazing. Irene clearly said no one can do it.
And i think you believe nearly everyone can do it. How is it amazing when nearly everyone can do it.

What do you mean what do i mean lol? You took Eileen's word literally, i took it as hyperbole. Eileen already knows two people who can, August and Zeref.

People give me standards. And then i use them. Remember you your self gsaid character statement above personal statement. It seems to have changed recently.

Not really, i still have character statements above the statement of a fan, as should anyone. However like i said before, some statements can be taken more seriously than others, Hyperbole and exaggeration exist, as do boasting & ridicule. Am i to take what a bad guy says about how weak a good guys is literally just cause he said it? People with different opinions will interpret the meaning or the validity of statements differently. However I as a general rule have character given explanations or general statements without emotion as hard fact. But even with that i might deviate if something just doesnt seem right to me.