Discussion The Official Relationship/Pairing/Shipping Thread

[Crescent Jinx]

Since this is sorta on topic, this cover with Juvia and Natsu is hilarious

Spoiler

In-series wise, made sure she didn't fall to ground when she succumbed from her cold

Spoiler: 424

Got mad at Gray for leaving Juvia and told him to his face about it

Spoiler: 428

She could deff use more standalone moments with other characters but hey, it's her character and what makes her her.

It's really funny because to @thatsvicchan comment, I was going to post the picture of the cover where Juvia is pushing Natsu's face away from Gray.

Side note: its Funny that's Juvia sees Lyon x Gray moments and says nothing about it (makes me wonder if she is into this on the DL). She calls Lucy love rival. But does not acknowledge Natsu. Except maybe the time Gray wanted to go after Natsu when he went for Zeref.

added: Natsu gets mad at Gray for leaving Juvia............ o.O That's like the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Raven]

Chapter 424, is so beautiful chapter.

Spoiler

Natsu blamed Gray for leaving Juvia behind.

Lucy started blaming Natsu too.

then Juvia said: get a room you too xD

Always loved Juvia <3

 

[thatsvicchan]

It's really funny because to @thatsvicchan comment, I was going to post the picture of the cover where Juvia is pushing Natsu's face away from Gray.

Side note: its Funny that's Juvia sees Lyon x Gray moments and says nothing about it (makes me wonder if she is into this on the DL). She calls Lucy love rival. But does not acknowledge Natsu. Except maybe the time Gray wanted to go after Natsu when he went for Zeref.

added: Natsu gets mad at Gray for leaving Juvia............ o.O That's like the pot calling the kettle black.

Haha yeah I like that cover too. This really makes me wonder what Hiro thinks about Natsu and Juvia.

Actually, when it comes to her "group" I think about Lyon and Meredy... I feel like she's closer to them tbh. They give me the OT4 feel unlike Gruvia x Nalu.

This is a bit funny also because when it comes to Gray, Natsu and Juvia are his main thoughts (like when he was about to cast Iced Shell on Silver) and they constantly appear in his flashbacks... but they aren't even close

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Chapter 424, is so beautiful chapter.

Spoiler

Natsu blamed Gray for leaving Juvia behind.

Lucy started blaming Natsu too.

then Juvia said: get a room you too xD

Lucy: Why don't you and Gray get a room?

Juvia: We did. You standing in it......

Lucy: Ew!!!

Juvia: Nothing happen tho.

Juvia to Mashima: Make sure you knock us out when Larcade uses his orgasm spell on the carnal knowledge people.

Lucy: You two are going to hell.

Juvia: Well Gray-Sama is an ice demon slayer so we'll be ok.

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Haha yeah I like that cover too. This really makes me wonder what Hiro thinks about Natsu and Juvia.


This is a bit funny also because when it comes to Gray, Natsu and Juvia are his main thoughts (like when he was about to cast Iced Shell on Silver) and they constantly appear in his flashbacks... but they aren't even close

And Graylu takes a hit!

 

[M3J]

I wouldn't say that; even as recently as the last cover page with Lucy wearing Natsu's scarf is more 'couple like' than that.

Not really, as anyone can wear a friend's piece of clothing. I mean, you don't see Natsu and Lucy talk like that as much as you do Natsu breaking into Lucy's house or sexually assaulting her.

Are you telling me you like Natsu x Brandish too??? I'm glad I wasn't the only crazy one Natsu's opposite personality but equal vibe made me like it. Brandish's smile in 521 was everything had to point that tidbit out lol.

It's not that I like it, but it's interesting to see. Lucy and Natsu aren't set in stone despite what people think, so it's possible Natsu could end up with Brandish or anyone else, IF he even ends up with anyone. Truth be told, I'd question the logic of Natsu ending up with Brandish more than I would if he ended up with LUcy, given all things.

Unless Mashima shows more interactions between Natsu and Brandish.

 

[Star Frost]

Not really, as anyone can wear a friend's piece of clothing. I mean, you don't see Natsu and Lucy talk like that as much as you do Natsu breaking into Lucy's house or sexually assaulting her.


It's not that I like it, but it's interesting to see. Lucy and Natsu aren't set in stone despite what people think, so it's possible Natsu could end up with Brandish or anyone else, IF he even ends up with anyone. Truth be told, I'd question the logic of Natsu ending up with Brandish more than I would if he ended up with LUcy, given all things.

Unless Mashima shows more interactions between Natsu and Brandish.

I'm still failing to see how the Natsu and Brandish ship even came about.

 

[joodaa]

Not really, as anyone can wear a friend's piece of clothing. I mean, you don't see Natsu and Lucy talk like that as much as you do Natsu breaking into Lucy's house or sexually assaulting her.

I'd say as relationship tropes go, giving another a piece of clothing is higher on the list compared to just having a conversation. If I'm cold and my friends cold, I'm not giving them my scarf, if it's my girlfriend, however, she can take whatever she wants.

 

[thatsvicchan]

I'd say as relationship tropes go, giving another a piece of clothing is higher on the list compared to just having a conversation. If I'm cold and my friends cold, I'm not giving them my scarf, if it's my girlfriend, however, she can take whatever she wants.

Jellal giving Erza his jacket in the Christmas omake is an example of that! We are talking about Japanese people too, what may be "little" for us is a huge deal for them. Like swearing to protect each other (Gruvia, Gajeel, tons of other manga ships)... international fans don't seem to value it as much as Japanese readers.

Even though I didn't like Natsu's reaction to Lucy being alive, as if those chapters about it were kinda useless, it's undeniable Nalu will be end game.

 

[M3J]

I'm still failing to see how the Natsu and Brandish ship even came about.

I don't understand either, but I assume due to some interaction they had.

I'd say as relationship tropes go, giving another a piece of clothing is higher on the list compared to just having a conversation. If I'm cold and my friends cold, I'm not giving them my scarf, if it's my girlfriend, however, she can take whatever she wants.

That's very selfish of you. And I'm sure Gray would give Lucy his piece of clothing too if need be, or Juvia to Lucy. DId Natsu give it to her or did she take it anyway? I forgot.

 

[Raven]

Natsu gift Lucy a big ass floating tree. How can chatting between friends beat that? Yeah BS. Some guys are trying hard but fail miserably with weird logic.

 

[joodaa]

That's very selfish of you. And I'm sure Gray would give Lucy his piece of clothing too if need be, or Juvia to Lucy. DId Natsu give it to her or did she take it anyway? I forgot.

It's not selfish, it's me having a different sensitivity to the one I love. If Gray was to, then we could then have the conversation about them looking like a couple, but Hiro won't show us that as it would give that implication, so instead he shows them having a conversation with the word friends plastered over the front. It's different for lucy and Juvia as I'm guessing they don't bat for the same team. Lucy wearing his scarf is part of the last cover, Natsu's pretty attached to his scarf so odds are he gave it to her.

 

[Star Frost]

I don't understand either, but I assume due to some interaction they had.

Interactions like what that shows it?

That's very selfish of you. And I'm sure Gray would give Lucy his piece of clothing too if need be, or Juvia to Lucy. DId Natsu give it to her or did she take it anyway? I forgot.

You're missing the point because that's different, Gray giving somebody a piece of clothing is no big deal since it ain't even important to him(especially since he hardly wears any) while in Natsu's case, you seen how he be like without his scarf like back in Tartarus they took all his clothes and instead of really being worried about being naked he was worried about that scarf. That scarf is very important and precious to Natsu due to it being the only momento he has from Igneel and Lucy knows it which she done noted before and shown a few times to keep it safe and took care of it and never had he ever given it to anyone nor has she tried to take it anyway before which you know Lucy is too nice and considerate to do him like that.

 

[Axiomus]

Not really, as anyone can wear a friend's piece of clothing. I mean, you don't see Natsu and Lucy talk like that as much as you do Natsu breaking into Lucy's house or sexually assaulting her.

The scarf is important to Natsu. It's the last thing he has of Igneel. Also, as far as cover pages go...

Spoiler: Natsu and Lucy talking

Spoiler: Natsu and Lucy riding a cart

Spoiler: Lucy snuggling up to Natsu

And those are just cover pages, which can only imply so much. When we get to the actual manga moments...

Spoiler: Lucy hugging Natsu

Spoiler: Lucy's concern for Natsu

Spoiler: Lucy's relief at Natsu waking up

 

[M3J]

It's not selfish, it's me having a different sensitivity to the one I love. If Gray was to, then we could then have the conversation about them looking like a couple, but Hiro won't show us that as it would give that implication, so instead he shows them having a conversation with the word friends plastered over the front. It's different for lucy and Juvia as I'm guessing they don't bat for the same team. Lucy wearing his scarf is part of the last cover, Natsu's pretty attached to his scarf so odds are he gave it to her.

how would it give that implication? All it'd do is show Gray cares about Lucy, without even being romantic. Hell, even Juvia could do the same for Lucy, does that mean they're a viable pairing?

One way or another though, why would Natsu care if a friend wears his scarf? He'd probably not like it if Gray wore it, but I'm sure he'd be okay with Mira, Juvia, Wendy, or even Erza wearing it. It's also possible that Lucy just put on the scarf for the fun of it, which Natsu shouldn't mind happening.

Interactions like what that shows it?


You're missing the point because that's different, Gray giving somebody a piece of clothing is no big deal since it ain't even important to him(especially since he hardly wears any) while in Natsu's case, you seen how he be like without his scarf like back in Tartarus they took all his clothes and instead of really being worried about being naked he was worried about that scarf. That scarf is very important and precious to Natsu due to it being the only momento he has from Igneel and Lucy knows it which she done noted before and shown a few times to keep it safe and took care of it and never had he ever given it to anyone nor has she tried to take it anyway before which you know Lucy is too nice and considerate to do him like that. And even if she did or he given it to her in that cover either way he's shown to be fine with it which must show how Lucy is truly even though he considers the same for everyone in the guild but in Lucy's case, she's in that list of category of who he considers most precious to him like he feels for Igneel along with Happy.

If you have to ask, no point in explaining it.

The difference is that Natsu's scarf either went missing or was in enemy's hands, while on the cover page he knows it's with a friend. Doesn't say much other than how attached he is to the scarf.

Or for Erza. And, no doubt Natsu is fine with his friends touching his scarf. Feels like this is a super hard reach to justify Natsu-Lucy, like when fans tried to use fan service as evidence of the pairing.

The scarf is important to Natsu. It's the last thing he has of Igneel. Also, as far as cover pages go...

Spoiler: Natsu and Lucy talking

Spoiler: Natsu and Lucy riding a bike

Spoiler: Lucy snuggling up to Natsu

And those are just cover pages, which can only imply so much. When we get to the actual manga moments...

Spoiler: Lucy hugging Natsu

Spoiler: Lucy's concern for Natsu

Spoiler: Lucy's relief at Natsu waking up

Nothing suggests pairing, all it suggests is Lucy's closeness/feelings for Natsu. As many of us have said, the pairing means nothing when Natsu has not indicated any sort of romantic feelings for Lucy. If anything, he has affection for her as a friend, and despite what people think, the things he's done for her are the same as he'd do for friends. He actually has for Erza, if I recall correctly.

 

[Axiomus]

Nothing suggests pairing, all it suggests is Lucy's closeness/feelings for Natsu. As many of us have said, the pairing means nothing when Natsu has not indicated any sort of romantic feelings for Lucy. If anything, he has affection for her as a friend, and despite what people think, the things he's done for her are the same as he'd do for friends. He actually has for Erza, if I recall correctly.

Well then nothing suggests pairing in the picture of Gray and Lucy. They're just talking.

 

[joodaa]

how would it give that implication? All it'd do is show Gray cares about Lucy, without even being romantic. Hell, even Juvia could do the same for Lucy, does that mean they're a viable pairing?

One way or another though, why would Natsu care if a friend wears his scarf? He'd probably not like it if Gray wore it, but I'm sure he'd be okay with Mira, Juvia, Wendy, or even Erza wearing it. It's also possible that Lucy just put on the scarf for the fun of it, which Natsu shouldn't mind happening.

I guess it comes down to what you see as romantic, and clearly, you see two people talking as more romantic than one person sharing something he cares about deeply with someone else and only that other person.

The fun thing is that since we only see him share it with Lucy, and we know that it's a special keepsake from Ignell, you can infer all those different scenarios but have no proof to validate it.

 

[M3J]

Well then nothing suggests pairing in the picture of Gray and Lucy. They're just talking.

If it was canon, it'd be more suggestive than Natsu and Lucy until Natsu actually did something that stood out as a romantic moment or gesture.

I guess it comes down to what you see as romantic, and clearly, you see two people talking as more romantic than one person sharing something he cares about deeply with someone else and only that other person.

The fun thing is that since we only see him share it with Lucy, and we know that it's a special keepsake from Ignell, you can infer all those different scenarios but have no proof to validate it.

I do, for obvious reasons. If Natsu and Lucy had the same exact thing on the cover page now or in the future, that'd be more romantic as they're more of potential pairings than Gray and Lucy. Makes sense, yeah? :lol

Cover page, as far as I know.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

I guess it comes down to what you see as romantic, and clearly, you see two people talking as more romantic than one person sharing something he cares about deeply with someone else and only that other person.

The fun thing is that since we only see him share it with Lucy, and we know that it's a special keepsake from Ignell, you can infer all those different scenarios but have no proof to validate it.

Well in chapter 2, Lucy asked for his scarf becaue she was cold and he wouldn't give it to her.

In chapter 105, after Natsu got punched for sniffing Lucy's armpit and telling her she needed deodorant, Lucy accidentally stole the scarf leading to sick Natsu breaking into her house and sleeping in her bedroom to get it in chapter 106.

So at least by fighting festival Natsu wasn't comfortable with Lucy having it. Even while deathly sick and heading home, he changed course to get it back.

On Tenrou, Natsu lost it and Lucy returned it while Gray returned it to Natsu in Tartaros.

And Natsu has gotten furiously when he thought Zeref polluted the scarf and also when the Tartaros demons stole it while he was in jail.

Whether or not the page is romantic,

To me it shows two things:

He isn't Isn't hoarding his possessions (like a dragon), which might be a thought that has came to him after Igneel's death..... something like value the living and not th dead type of mentality. So while the scarf is important..... it's just a material object.

And even tho it's slow development (like 400 chapters too late). It is development between Natsu and Lucy. Because once he didn't want her to have it, and now he does.

Whether or not Hiro is trolling shippers or the fandom is reading too much into it.

As for talking romantically.... Lucy has been shown blushing while in conversation to Natsu, Loke and Gray. So on that note, she has romantic moments from all 3.

 

[Axiomus]

If it was canon, it'd be more suggestive than Natsu and Lucy until Natsu actually did something that stood out as a romantic moment or gesture.

I do, for obvious reasons. If Natsu and Lucy had the same exact thing on the cover page now or in the future, that'd be more romantic as they're more of potential pairings than Gray and Lucy. Makes sense, yeah? :lol

Cover page, as far as I know.

I think Lucy cuddling up to Natsu is more suggestive than simply sitting at a table and talking (which they've also done in a cover page). Like Cresent and Jooda have pointed out, the scarf is something that was important to Natsu. We don't have any cases of Natsu lending his scarf to someone else, and so letting Lucy have it is a display of closeness. Even if you don't consider it romantic, I consider scene be more significant than simply sitting and talking.

If we're just talking about pure aesthetics, the rainbow sakura cover is still by far my personal favourite:

Spoiler: Rainbow Sakura cover page

Spoiler: Or this one

As for talking romantically.... Lucy has been shown blushing while in conversation to Natsu, Loke and Gray. So on that note, she has romantic moments from all 3.

I don't think blushing is necessarily a sign, as the girls in FT are usually drawn with a slight flush - even when they're not really doing anything. For example, Lisanna has a slight flush on her face in this pose (below) A significant blush may mean something, depending on the context. It's drawn differently though.

Spoiler: Lisanna and Juvia

 

[Raven]

Whatsoever, It's only a matter of time. I think Zeref's and Acnologia's fight will be over soon, and Gray will give Juvia his answer, I can see Mashima tease the shippers a bit before it happen with his twitter sketches and chapter covers. So get ready for more.

Also if you think logically, Lucy indeed give Natsu special treatment and vice versa, On the other hand, Lucy will never accept Gray if anything cuz she know well that Juvia is in love with him.