Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[TM2]

while watching the video thought this might be useful as a reference.

 

[Scruffy8642]

Even so 4 million is too much for saiki... half of it I could believe without the actual numbers obviously.

Japan Wikipedia had 3.3 mil listed. Don't know how recent that was, but its probably about right. Last I saw the latest volume had sold 120k. So as a base, 120kx20 volumes =2.4 mill. Take into account the earlier volumes have sold much more, and the average is probably around 175-200k per volume.

 

[G_I_A]

Why are you using sales numbers to justify a manga's quality? Why are you using sales numbers to prove your opinion?

Well... I did not mean "quality". But this is a product, it's made to sell... If more people are buying, it's doing better don't you think? So more people are willing to buy Gintama than Saiki..

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Japan Wikipedia had 3.3 mil listed. Don't know how recent that was, but its probably about right. Last I saw the latest volume had sold 120k. So as a base, 120kx20 volumes =2.4 mill. Take into account the earlier volumes have sold much more, and the average is probably around 175-200k per volume.

Thank you, it seems true.

 

[Nakura]

Well according to the video, it has 4.6M in print.

 

[WesKR]

What exactly did Shonen Magazine have in the 1997-2002 that let it briefly pull ahead?

 

[WyldViolet]

What exactly did Shonen Magazine have in the 1997-2002 that let it briefly pull ahead?

GTO, Love Hina, Rave, Getbackers, Boys Be 2, Kindaichi, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Ippo, and Cromartie.

 

[Savi]

Well according to the video, it has 4.6M in print.

Volumes 1 to 18, back in last August reported 4M in print, the rest are from Oricon charts. In late April, Publication Index Annual Report of 2017 (出版指標年報) should be out with more info on how was the print of volume 18-20 which were out the same time the anime aired. It's a book report the publishers post the circulation of every manga the have released this year (Apr-16 to Apr-17), It's cost over 150$ so I won't buy it but some japs do upload the info in 2ch, at least I hope to, last year they reported that volume 15 of Saiki had 130,000 in print.

What exactly did Shonen Magazine have in the 1997-2002 that let it briefly pull ahead?

GTO (97-2002 manga, various adaptations also in those years), Hajime no Ippo anime, Kindaichi anime, Love Hina and others. I wrote an article in otaku magazine in my country about the decline of Jump in those years, It'll be difficult to translate the whole article but I can provide some of the key lines that will help to understand what happen back then.

(Sorry for any bad grammar, trying my best here )

 

[G_I_A]

Volumes 1 to 18, back in last August reported 4M in print, the rest are from Oricon charts. In late April, Publication Index Annual Report of 2017 (出版指標年報) should be out with more info on how was the print of volume 18-20 which were out the same time the anime aired. It's a book report the publishers post the circulation of every manga the have released this year (Apr-16 to Apr-17), It's cost over 150$ so I won't buy it but some japs do upload the info in 2ch, at least I hope to, last year they reported that volume 15 of Saiki had 130,000 in print.


GTO (97-2002 manga, various adaptations also in those years), Hajime no Ippo anime, Kindaichi anime, Love Hina and others. I wrote an article in otaku magazine in my country about the decline of Jump in those years, It'll be difficult to translate the whole article but I can provide some of the key lines that will help to understand what happen back then.

(Sorry for any bad grammar, trying my best here )

Don't worry, you're fine. I'm way worse XD

And yeah that time was amazing for shonen magazine... But nowadays it's not that bad... Fairy Tail, Nanatsu, Ippo, Fuuka...

 

[WyldViolet]

I wouldn't mind seeing Mappa do YYH.
Adapt the skipped first arc, adapt a lot of character building chapters the original anime skipped, and have a more faithful art style, pacing, and tone.

 

[Newkerzy]

This post proves once more that people think that their dozen people circle represents the entire world in everything. Try to get out of your bubble for a change.
A-1 Pictures already said that they are going to do SAO as long as they have material. Because, and this can be new for you, it is POPULAR, FAMOUS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST FRANCHISE IN LIGHT NOVEL HISTORY.

I don't really follow SAO, but I've heard good things in later materials, which is supposedly an improvement over SAO's 2nd season.

 

[WesKR]

I always felt that YYH's anime was drawn out to the point you'd think it was Toei. 40 episodes for the Dark Tournament which was 60 chapters, most of them with very little dialogue.

I would like to see the skipped chapters get adapted too, they skipped like 2/3 of the content in volumes 1&2.

 

[susanoo13]

Even though I didn't read YYH manga, i watched the anime and read HxH and know what depth of character Togashi can create. It would probably be outstanding, even if the current anime for me covers everything I need and want. Just imagine what could Togashi do i he could have an extra arc or 2 animated which he planned and couldn't publish.

Up until such a thing is possible, I would like to see MAPPA do something from WSM, even of some of the series you mentioned earlier after Kenshin.

 

[WyldViolet]

Let's do this shit again since we have a ton new members.

What are your top 5 Jump series

For me
1. Hunter x Hunter
2. One Piece
3. Ninku
4. Beelzebub
5. Hinomaru Sumo/Gintama

 

[susanoo13]

Finshed
1)Dragonball
2)YYH
3)Psyren
4)Eyeshield 21/Naruto
5)Bakuman/Kenshin

Ongoing
1)One piece
2)Hunter X Hunter
3)MHA/Gintama
4)Haikyuu
5)Neverland

 

[Nakura]

1. Gintama
2. Death Note
3. My Hero Academia
4. Hunter x Hunter
5. Dragon Ball

 

[Ecchi Boy]

1. Hunter x Hunter
2. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
3. My Hero Academia
4. Toriko
5. Katekyo Hitman Reborn

 

[WesKR]

1. Yu Yu Hakusho
2. Fist of the North Star
3. Dragon Ball
4. Saint Seiya
5. One Piece

 

[TM2]

1) JoJo's
2) Hero Academia
3) YuYu Hakusho
4) Ruroni Kenshin
5) Sket Dance

 

[WyldViolet]

1. Yu Yu Hakusho
2. Fist of the North Star
3. Dragon Ball
4. Saint Seiya
5. One Piece

Saint Seiya doesn't get nearly enough love! If it wasn't for the Poseiden arc it would have been on my list.

 

[TyVip]

Top as in best or favorite? they have different lists.

Best - only on COMPLETED series
One Piece (only exception)
Yu Yu Hakusho
Eyeshield21
Dragonball
Hoishin Engi

On going Favorite
One Piece
Food War
Yuuna
The Promised Neverland
This is not accurate since they are the only one UP TO DATE at the moment . Haikyuu/HZ/Kitmsetsu I haven't catching up.


Completed Favorite
Eyeshield21
Dragonball
Naruto Pre Shippuden
To Love Ru
Sket Dance/Beelzebub/Bakuman