Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Laxus chan-yo]

Been reading this thread for awhile so decided to join this website I love to debate power levels. @Sevently erza too low don't forget that she was handicapped at the beginning of the match after Lucy defeated brandish lackey ( can't remember his name) Erza able to use her equip magic properly. Specially when elf man and lisanna beat him and erza was able to causally stop DES gray and END and was able to take on Irene ya she is way above him now. I don't understand the hype for natsu why do ppl put him above gildartz or laxus? I can see maybe erza but not laxus or gildartz yet. I guess because he is fighting zeref right now. IMO zeref isnt all that powerful it's his immortality that makes him "Powerful" the guy hasn't really been that impressive to me but I might be wrong need to see convincing feats also. Natsu isn't stronger than the top 5 spprigans (august Irene rahkied dimaria god serena) natsu right now is beening overrated now if ur talking about BKDM natsu then yes I agree with but since that a power up and he apparently doesn't have the power of a dragonslayer anymore he isn't even in the top 10. Sting shouldn't be in the lis. The only reason why he beat lacadeBecause of advantage match up plus help from rogue. Dimaria should be higher. Burn hart is weaker than hades and mard geer

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I agree with this list the only problem is natsu being number 7

Another brother come home to the Laxus family

Post as much as possible mang

I also completely agree that Natsu hasn't surpassed Gildarts or Laxus yet. Erza imo has been surpassed but she is incredibly broken so you never know.

 

[LaGOAT]

Another brother come home to the Laxus family

Post as much as possible mang

I also completely agree that Natsu hasn't surpassed Gildarts or Laxus yet. Erza imo has been surpassed but she is incredibly broken so you never know.

OF COURSE laxus is the only reason why I read this manga honestly he is the GOAT of FT (well I put acno up there too) to me its debatable if natsu is stronger than erza right now Especially her recent feats but ur right she is broken it's not even funny

 

[Noctiz]

I believe Gray and Gajeel are still stronger than Erza, despite her BS.

 

[Raven]

As much as some of us may not want to admit it, Natsu is clearly getting wanked by Mashima this arc. Though he could end up losing to Gray or Erza in a fight because they are so much smarter than he is(and unlike supposedly intelligent people like Jelllal, they actually use their intelligence in battle), but in terms of power he's above both. Laxus and Gildarts destroy him though, they're on another tier.

What the love is this? besides GOI, Gildarts, Lucy, Juvia and some irrelevant characters in terms of power. Literally every character in this arc is getting wanked not just Natsu. If you remove your hate glasses you will easily observe that Mashima gave all characters the same treatment even sting who was 10 jumped to 100 in just one chapter.

No Natsu won't lose to either Gray or Erza. Sometimes he use his brain in fights and he don't know his limits therefore no matter how they will try against him they will end up losing.

 

[Arjuna]

I think people are forgetting that Natsu has still one powerup which Hiro definetly didn't show it till now for some reason i.e. his Dragon Force.And probably he will half Dragonize.The whole equation changes when Natsu shows his DF.He will easily get the first position.Come on after all he is the MC and by the end of the series he will be the strongest on the good side.

 

[Seven777]

What the love is this? besides GOI, Gildarts, Lucy, Juvia and some irrelevant characters in terms of power. Literally every character in this arc is getting wanked not just Natsu. If you remove your hate glasses you will easily observe that Mashima gave all characters the same treatment even sting who was 10 jumped to 100 in just one chapter.

No Natsu won't lose to either Gray or Erza. Sometimes he use his brain in fights and he don't know his limits therefore no matter how they will try against him they will end up losing.

First off, being wanked by Mashima is a good thing for a character, why do you think i said "as much as we may hate to admit it"? The normal term would be "hyped", but because its Natsu im obligated to call it wank.
Secondly, Juvia hasnt been wanked at all and Lucy barely got any. The only moment she had was against Brandish and that hype got quickly shat on when Dimaria told us Brandish was just playing a few pages later. GoI got wanked a bit at the start fair enough. Gildarts always gets wanked whenever he does anything, he's even got a little fan club that cheers every time he appears. Sting didnt get no wank, at best you could say his ability to eat "white" things got a bit of attention, apart from that he was clearly the underdog the whole fight.

Sure on occasion he'll use his brain to do something outlandish and often stupid, but compared to Gray and Erza he's basically retarded. And yes, both have a fair chance at beating him.
Erza is far more versatile and is more skilled in CQC, Flame Empress also cuts Natsu's offense in half, and offense is pretty much the only thing Natsu's got going for him.
Gray is FAR smarter than Natsu or even Erza. You could see it plain as day when he fought END, strategy and skill had Gray tripping Natsu over, having Natsu run into walls and trapped in a cage. All Natsu could do was charge at Gray and try to overpower him.
So while Natsu imo has more raw power than Gray or Erza, no way is him beating them a sure thing. At best i'd put his chances of victory at 60% and thats being extremely generous, a more realistic estimate would be 50/50.

 

[Takuan]

@Seven777 as usual i agree with every point of your post. Your posts are always great and i agree with you around 95% of the time, if not more.
I'd just add that Gray is obviously way smarter than Natsu yeah, but Erza herself isn't too shabby here. I'd say she's as smart as Gray to be honest. SHe proved to be pretty quick thinking in battle, for instance when she was able to determine Midnight's weaknesses in OS arc. That would have been a difficult task for anyone else.
But yeah... Just my two cents. I had to say something other than "i agree with you", my post would have been deleted otherwise.
Alright that's all for me, peace

 

[Raven]

First off, being wanked by Mashima is a good thing for a character, why do you think i said "as much as we may hate to admit it"? The normal term would be "hyped", but because its Natsu im obligated to call it wank.
Secondly, Juvia hasnt been wanked at all and Lucy barely got any. The only moment she had was against Brandish and that hype got quickly shat on when Dimaria told us Brandish was just playing a few pages later. GoI got wanked a bit at the start fair enough. Gildarts always gets wanked whenever he does anything, he's even got a little fan club that cheers every time he appears. Sting didnt get no wank, at best you could say his ability to eat "white" things got a bit of attention, apart from that he was clearly the underdog the whole fight.

Sure on occasion he'll use his brain to do something outlandish and often stupid, but compared to Gray and Erza he's basically retarded. And yes, both have a fair chance at beating him.
Erza is far more versatile and is more skilled in CQC, Flame Empress also cuts Natsu's offense in half, and offense is pretty much the only thing Natsu's got going for him.
Gray is FAR smarter than Natsu or even Erza. You could see it plain as day when he fought END, strategy and skill had Gray tripping Natsu over, having Natsu run into walls and trapped in a cage. All Natsu could do was charge at Gray and try to overpower him.
So while Natsu imo has more raw power than Gray or Erza, no way is him beating them a sure thing. At best i'd put his chances of victory at 60% and thats being extremely generous, a more realistic estimate wouldbe 50/50.

Wank doesn't mean hype only it means favoritism over all. I said "besides" it means "expect for". GOI were totally a wasted potential and got excluded from the arc to let fairy tail shine. Juvia didn't get any favoritism from Mashima this arc she got reduced for shipping purposes only, Lucy as a main character along with Natsu should get equal treatment like Natsu but the fact is Gray and Erza shined more than her. Gildarts didn't get any favoritism he didn't do any significant accomplishment yet he only got his reputation. The same can be applied on Jellal as well. That being said, You worded like Mashima do that for Natsu only so don't try to change your tone.

Erza is a tanky mage thanks to her amours and arguably smart like Gray but that doesn't make her win any fight she can't fight Natsu for long time she may last longer than Gray tho. Gray on the other hand, He wasn't wining against END, His traps weren't useful as you think. He was creating traps and Natsu just undo them or dodge without getting any damage he was just stalling to get more time. The fact is Natsu was getting stronger by the time and was getting the upper hand, If the fight meant to be death battle. Natsu obviously was getting out as the winner even with a disadvantage.

EDIT: Wining chance is 70% for Natsu at least.
as for Gray/Erza 20~30% at best.

 

[Laxus chan-yo]

And yet Natsu couldn't oneshot Ajeel, who laughed off his punch. And Erza had a free hit against him with a sword to the gut and couldn't oneshot him.

 

[Raven]

It's safe to conclude that Natsu didn't put any effort in that punch. He was chasing all team Natsu + Makarov and almost defeat Erza then what happened yeah he lost to Elfman and Lissana. xD

 

[Am Shegar]

In defence of Laxus I should say he was ill and Wahl had immunity to ligtning so it was extreme diff and not oneshot. By the way powers of Natsu rises up between Ajeel and Nienhart/Dimaria fights due to END awakening. So I suppose normal Natsu could not oneshot any Spriggan. Main problem of this story is special fights in witch it is difficult to determenate characters powerlevel. I even do not know witch power Natsu used in Ikagatsunagi fight. Why Natsu had fdkm in Jakobs fight? Was it remains of Igneels power or his own? And if it is Natsu own power why he became like 100 times stronger all of sudden. Laxus always was powerhouse (even if I think Jellal and Gildarts was more impressive I understand other opinions about that). Probably we will never know.

 

[Raven]

In defence of Laxus I should say he was ill and Wahl had immunity to ligtning so it was extreme diff and not oneshot. By the way powers of Natsu rises up between Ajeel and Nienhart/Dimaria fights due to END awakening. So I suppose normal Natsu could not oneshot any Spriggan. Main problem of this story is special fights in witch it is difficult to determenate characters powerlevel. I even do not know witch power Natsu used in Ikagatsunagi fight. Why Natsu had fdkm in Jakobs fight? Was it remains of Igneels power or his own? And if it is Natsu own power why he became like 100 times stronger all of sudden. Laxus always was powerhouse (even if I think Jellal and Gildarts was more impressive I understand other opinions about that). Probably we will never know.

Igneel powers were finished against Zeref in the beginning of the arc he didn't use any of it against any spriggan.

Normal Natsu one shotted Jacob and Neinhart and the war god without igneel powers

One shotted Dimaria using END powers

Power levels are destroyed after this 1 year of training so it doesn't really matter anymore

 

[Raven]

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xDxD yeah sure lets just assume whatever we want to suit our preferences.

We never saw the Elfman fight and how strong he has gotten. What we DID see is a damn impressive fight against Erza with which we should judge him by.

sorry didn't see your reply

Using your logic, We saw Erza destroying a Meteor casted by a dragon one-handed >>>> anything Laxus has done so far.

 

[Seven777]

@Seven777 I'd just add that Gray is obviously way smarter than Natsu yeah, but Erza herself isn't too shabby here. I'd say she's as smart as Gray to be honest. SHe proved to be pretty quick thinking in battle, for instance when she was able to determine Midnight's weaknesses in OS arc. That would have been a difficult task for anyone else.

She could be, tbh ive always considered her one of the smartest characters. Like when on Galuna island Natsu and co. had no idea why the Demons werent turning back into humans, while Erza already had the whole thing figured out. However Gray uses his intelligence in battle far more frequently, so i credit him more for it. Erza does it on occasion like with Midnight as you said, but not as often, though she was stronger than Gray preskip so perhaps she just didnt need to.

Wank doesn't mean hype only it means favoritism over all. I said "besides" it means "expect for". GOI were totally a wasted potential and got excluded from the arc to let fairy tail shine. Juvia didn't get any favoritism from Mashima this arc she got reduced for shipping purposes only, Lucy as a main character along with Natsu should get equal treatment like Natsu but the fact is Gray and Erza shined more than her. Gildarts didn't get any favoritism he didn't do any significant accomplishment yet he only got his reputation. The same can be applied on Jellal as well. That being said, You worded like Mashima do that for Natsu only so don't try to change your tone.

Oh? Is that what it means? Then i was completely right anyway, Mashima does wank Natsu in every sense of the description you gave. I dont know how you can say Mashima favors the GoI when he had God Serena solo them. Or Juvia who did pretty much nothing, or Lucy who did the same, or Sting who was underdog his whole fight, no idea why you brought up those characters if wank really means what you said it does.

Oh and how exactly am i changing my tone? I literally said "i hate to admit" Natsu is getting wanked. You trying to say im a hardcore Natsu fan? Cause thats the only explanation for why a person would "hate to admit" something negative about a character.

Erza is a tanky mage thanks to her amours and arguably smart like Gray but that doesn't make her win any fight she can't fight Natsu for long time she may last longer than Gray tho. Gray on the other hand, He wasn't wining against END, His traps weren't useful as you think. He was creating traps and Natsu just undo them or dodge without getting any damage he was just stalling to get more time. The fact is Natsu was getting stronger by the time and was getting the upper hand, If the fight meant to be death battle. Natsu obviously was getting out as the winner even with a disadvantage.

EDIT: Wining chance is 70% for Natsu at least.
as for Gray/Erza 20~30% at best.

Of course it does, Flame Empress cuts Natsu's attack power in half. Plus she's faster, smarter and more skilled. Natsu's only chance is overpowering her head on, and seeing how she blocked a punch from his END form, bare handed, with no armor/weapon. I highly doubt Natsu could easily overpower Flame Empress armors defenses or Erza's skills. Me giving him a 60% chance was too generous.

Gray's traps werent working? Do we read the same manga? I'll lay em out for you.
Gray makes the most of getting punched in the face by secretely planting homing Ice Crystals to target Natsu

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Natsu gets tripped by Gray.

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Natsu crashes into Gray's wall like an idiot

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Natsu gawks at Gray while he traps Natsu in a cage to set up his next attack

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The only one of Gray's traps that didnt work was the homing ice crystals, thats 3/4, pretty fricking decent. So yeah, Natsu was getting more powerful, but thats because he's fricking END, thats whats meant to happen. Gray wasnt losing, he was winning, it was only thanks to END's enormous store of power that he kept coming back for more and the more END transforms, the more effective Gray's DeS magic will probably be. Who knows if END can even get tired, but human Natsu sure as hell can, and thats who Gray is fighting in this scenario, so yeah, 50/50 chance at winning.

Laxus is extremely overrated here. Natsu one shotted Enhanced Neinhart which is > Ajeel
One shotted Dimaria which is > Wahl
I'd say Natsu easily above him.

Lol at this, Laxus murder stomps Natsu, there is a reason Azir crapped his pants at Laxus but just laughed at Natsu.
This is Azir's reaction to Natsu

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This is Azir's reaction to Laxus

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At best Natsu is on the same tier as MBP afflicted Laxus, at best. Because we heard straight from Wahl that even while afflicted by MBPs, Laxus is top tier within Fairy Tail.

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[Raven]

Oh? Is that what it means? Then i was completely right anyway, Mashima does wank Natsu in every sense of the description you gave. I dont know how you can say Mashima favors the GoI when he had God Serena solo them. Or Juvia who did pretty much nothing, or Lucy who did the same, or Sting who was underdog his whole fight, no idea why you brought up those characters if wank really means what you said it does.

What is this? You don't know English?
To make it easier for you, Mashima wanked almost every character not just Natsu excluding the characters i mentioned before. I hope you get it.


How on earth you knew that flame empress reduce Natsu's magic by 50%? Don't assume things from no where. That armor grant her some resistance against fire but not that much, even in that armor she can't win against Natsu. 20% wining chance at best. She stopped both attacks at the same time, Did you see the damage? her hands were severely damaged with both attacks. Natsu was using fragments of END powers tho imagine him going all out.


So you provided the panels where Gray set the baits and Natsu took the bait but you didn't show the panels where destroying all his traps. So what of him being END? Gray is a devil slayer and he has advantage he should do more than that. The fact is END only showed fragments of his powers and he was getting stronger by the time nothing support that Gray Des magic is more effective when END is more powerful. Gray wasn't wining he was just stalling time. That panel of Gray shitting his pants said enough already.

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Again my point with Gray and Erza, No matter how they will stall time with they will end up losing and that's a fact.



Natsu hit Azir with a normal punch, Here Laxus displayed one of his largest feats in this arc. How in the fuck you compare them?

By feats Natsu is stronger than Laxus anyday and he will always be stronger.

 

[Seven777]

What is this? You don't know English?
To make it easier for you, Mashima wanked almost every character not just Natsu excluding the characters i mentioned before. I hope you get it.

You said wank=favoritism. You cant favor everyone or its not favoring. Mashima wanks Natsu, because he favors Natsu above everyone else, i hope you get it.

How on earth you knew that flame empress reduce Natsu's magic by 50%? Don't assume things from no where. That armor grant her some resistance against fire but not that much, even in that armor she can't win against Natsu. 20% wining chance at best. She stopped both attacks at the same time, Did you see the damage? her hands were severely damaged with both attacks. Natsu was using fragments of END powers tho imagine him going all out.

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I know it cuts it by half because ive read the manga, fact-check before you accuse me of not knowing my shit.

Yeah, i saw the damage Erza received when she blocked both END's and Gray's attacks(notice how Gray did similar damage to END?), i also saw Erza draw her sword and fight Eileen a chapter later, not hindered in the slightest by that damage. I also saw that Erza was in her Red Pants, which provides absolutely no defense, unlike her regular armors, let alone her Flame Empress armor. I also saw Erza block the attacks with her bare hands, rather than swords, you know her magic? The things she'd be blocking with if she actually intended to fight them? 60% at best.

So you provided the panels where Gray set the baits and Natsu took the bait but you didn't show the panels where destroying all his traps. So what of him being END? Gray is a devil slayer and he has advantage he should do more than that. The fact is END only showed fragments of his powers and he was getting stronger by the time nothing support that Gray Des magic is more effective when END is more powerful. Gray wasn't wining he was just stalling time. That panel of Gray shitting his pants said enough already.

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Clearly an image of Gray enraged not scared.
Destroyed them after Gray had already ensnared him and finished his attacks. Destroying a trap when its already all used up isnt impressive.

Again my point with Gray and Erza, No matter how they will stall time with they will end up losing and that's a fact.

Uh.. this is normal Natsu, not END im talking about. Normal Natsu doesnt have ENDs energy. Gray and Erza wont be stalling for time, they'll be going in for the kill(figuratively speaking). Only advantage normal Natsu has over Erza and Gray is offense, Erza can split that in half and Gray can work around it.

Natsu hit Azir with a normal punch, Here Laxus displayed one of his largest feats in this arc. How in the fuck you compare them?

Largest=/=best. and this was Laxus with the MBPs still inside him. Natsu attacked Azir, then Laxus attacked Azir, all in the same chapter, i just went by who was more impressive.

By feats Natsu is stronger than Laxus anyday and he will always be stronger.

Lol.

 

[Boomburst]

Gray's traps werent working? Do we read the same manga? I'll lay em out for you.
Gray makes the most of getting punched in the face by secretely planting homing Ice Crystals to target Natsu

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Secretly planting homing ice crystals? You're reaching here buddy, all Gray did was control the shards of ice that Natsu smashed to attack him. Nothing particularly strategic about that.

Natsu gets tripped by Gray.

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This isn't even him being smart or anything, literally all Gray did here was attack Natsu and knock him over.

Natsu crashes into Gray's wall like an idiot

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Oh yea, silly Natsu for accidentally running into a wall erected right in his path! I guess if he was smart he would have just phased through it, right?
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Natsu gawks at Gray while he traps Natsu in a cage to set up his next attack

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Oh yea, what a brilliant strategy, using his Ice Make Magic to surround his opponent with ice! Truly a genius, no one else could have ever come up with such a masterful plan amirite

Lol at this, Laxus murder stomps Natsu, there is a reason Azir crapped his pants at Laxus but just

[/SPOILER] This is Azir's reaction to Laxus

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That's bullshit and you know it, Ajeel was reacting to the attacks, not the mages. Obviously a nuke is going to be much more impressive than a basic punch to the face. Do you honestly believe for a second that Ajeel would have the same reaction to Laxus if he had punched him instead of firing a nuke?

If Natsu had fired off a FDKM Roar Ajeel would be shitting his pants as well. Just look at Jacob's face when Natsu went FDKM, the dude was fucking terrified.

 

[Seven777]

Secretly planting homing ice crystals? You're reaching here buddy, all Gray did was control the shards of ice that Natsu smashed to attack him. Nothing particularly strategic about that.

Think so? Didnt even notice Natsu smashing the ice. Controlling the broken shards of ice Natsu destroyed might be even more impressive... Or not?

This isn't even him being smart or anything, literally all Gray did here was attack Natsu and knock him over.

Natsu had time to react and observe Gray's attack, couldnt do anything about it. Makes the user of the attack look pretty smart.

Oh yea, silly Natsu for accidentally running into a wall erected right in his path! I guess if he was smart he would have just phased through it, right?
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Its what i wouldve done

Oh yea, what a brilliant strategy, using his Ice Make Magic to surround his opponent with ice! Truly a genius, no one else could have ever come up with such a masterful plan amirite

Genius enough to snag the genius who can jump 100 feet high, yet didnt think to leap over that 10 foot tall wall.

That's bullshit and you know it, Ajeel was reacting to the attacks, not the mages. Obviously a nuke is going to be much more impressive than a basic punch to the face. Do you honestly believe for a second that Ajeel would have the same reaction to Laxus if he had punched him instead of firing a nuke?

If Natsu had fired off a FDKM Roar Ajeel would be shitting his pants as well. Just look at Jacob's face when Natsu went FDKM, the dude was fucking terrified.

Haha, oh yeah? Maybe i do. But Azir would be a little more miffed if Laxus was the one who punched him imo.

I assume you're also in the "Gray and Erza dont stand a chance against Natsu" camp? If not what do you think they're chances are?

 

[Zelefomavis]

During END vs Gray fight neither was winning, they were rougly equals. Id I had to give the edge to someone it would be END because he made Gray scream, when he seemed unnafected from taking hits,HOWEVER their punches seemed equal.

Natsu clearly had more raw power, but Gray compensated with his ice speed and his intelligence. However I don t think hid thinking was outstanding. He just used his ice how ilhe is supposed to be and which was good. I dont think he planted shard of oce he just used the broken ice, which is a good feat, but not cleverness, just a good spell. About his wall, it was smart using a wall, but Natsu is not dulb not avoiding it,I mean he was at full speed and the guy created a wall just in front of him he had no time to avoid it.

So to conclude I d say Gray and End were rougly equals however if Erza did not stop thel I could see partial END winning extreme diff.


If it was Natsu vs Erza, I don't know who would win, Erza is not as strong anymore IMO but if she has something to protect she will never go down. About Gray vs Natsu, really depends if Gray can access again his pof form, and what can Natsu do now

 

[Raven]

You said wank=favoritism. You cant favor everyone or its not favoring. Mashima wanks Natsu, because he favors Natsu above everyone else, i hope you get it.

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I know it cuts it by half because ive read the manga, fact-check before you accuse me of not knowing my shit.

Yeah, i saw the damage Erza received when she blocked both END's and Gray's attacks(notice how Gray did similar damage to END?), i also saw Erza draw her sword and fight Eileen a chapter later, not hindered in the slightest by that damage. I also saw that Erza was in her Red Pants, which provides absolutely no defense, unlike her regular armors, let alone her Flame Empress armor. I also saw Erza block the attacks with her bare hands, rather than swords, you know her magic? The things she'd be blocking with if she actually intended to fight them? 60% at best.

Clearly an image of Gray enraged not scared.
Destroyed them after Gray had already ensnared him and finished his attacks. Destroying a trap when its already all used up isnt impressive.
Uh.. this is normal Natsu, not END im talking about. Normal Natsu doesnt have ENDs energy. Gray and Erza wont be stalling for time, they'll be going in for the kill(figuratively speaking). Only advantage normal Natsu has over Erza and Gray is offense, Erza can split that in half and Gray can work around it.

Largest=/=best. and this was Laxus with the MBPs still inside him. Natsu attacked Azir, then Laxus attacked Azir, all in the same chapter, i just went by who was more impressive.

Lol.

I said favoritism over all it means screen time, Hype, roles, etc.. You were saying that i hate to admit that Natsu is strong or something because Mashima wanked him this arc despite the fact that most of FT members got wanked as well. He got many but there are many others got their share too expect the characters i mentioned.


Yeah you were right at 50% reduction i didn't remember it. Thought you invented it.
but lol a this

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Dat happy art is so bad yet funny

He damaged her hand with just one attack it means it was strong. Here Gray was already in his full power, Natsu wasn't and he did the same damage like Gray. That panel of her damaged arms were implying that the dmg dealt were even but the results could have changed if the fight continued because Natsu was getting stronger by the time that's why he was transforming to a demon it means he is getting stronger. Ofc she was fighting Irene without worrying about her wounds because Wendy was healing and buffing.

Destroying the traps after getting snared is impressive, Enduring it then destroying it like it was nothing. Gray look scared more than angered. Natsu scared him when he got out of the ice castle, He knew that he can't keep up for long time.


Normal Natsu still has both powers, He is able to use his dragon slayer magic even after the dragon seed being destroyed. His demon powers should work without the seed as well.


The difference that Natsu used a regular punch and Laxus used one of his best, The comparison here is not fair.
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It's easy to figure out that END isn't full because only his hands were demonized not rocket science.