Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[iceemperor]

Poor Spring Weapon. Surely it can't last long with sales like those.

It is called "Phoenix" inside Shueisha so we may see it last another 2 volumes. Their advertising on this latest volume is absolutely blatant. If you get a copy, you can say you had it on your radar from the beginning; you can say, "I always knew it'd be a huge selling star". I don't know if the votes its getting are really that high or considerable to keep it in the magazine but Amalgam was axed with less chapters and still has (slightly) higher sales.

 

[RafaFedKilla]

SW1 volumes will be collectors items.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Has there ever been a mangaka who changed wrote a new series under a different name? Like as a way to hide their identity from the general public.

 

[N0R7H]

Has there ever been a mangaka who changed wrote a new series under a different name? Like as a way to hide their identity from the general public.

Osamu Akimoto started Kochikame as Tatsuhiko Yamadome, then changed to his real name two years later, after the 100th chapter.

 

[tirakai]

He's the artist rather than the writer but there's Saeki Shun.

 

[Mammo]

^that applies to most former ****** mangakas really

 

[tirakai]

Are there any notable H-mangaka who kept the same handle when they went for normal stuff?

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Are there any notable H-mangaka who kept the same handle when they went for normal stuff?

Hiro Mashima

 

[Mammo]

All I can think of is Kohta Hirano (Hellsing)

but I'm sure it happens a lot

 

[jagman1x3]

I've seen a few authors of new series who turned out to be coming from ****** under the same name when I looked them up, but I think the only reason they'd really change their name is if they're doing something for younger kids.

 

[Koi Kage]

So I just read the latest chapter of Hungry Marie and that chapter gave of the vibe of using anything possible to not get axed right away; I'm still giving it until it gets ranked to try and change my mind because it's getting harder to justify a reason to read it week to week.

 

[Reigen]

Oda: "I still remember that Yoshihiro Togashi-sensei gave me a monthly manga award 24 years ago. And Toagshi-sensei kindly remembers it as well.
more here

 

[G_I_A]

So I just read the latest chapter of Hungry Marie and that chapter gave of the vibe of using anything possible to not get axed right away; I'm still giving it until it gets ranked to try and change my mind because it's getting harder to justify a reason to read it week to week.

Why you think (based on pure nothing I might add) that a series that will receive a color page (before it's even ranked) would get axed right away? Please explain your logic not using your own biased opinion.

 

[Koi Kage]

Why you think (based on pure nothing I might add) that a series that will receive a color page (before it's even ranked) would get axed right away? Please explain your logic not using your own biased opinion.

I see the reason Hungry Marie would receive a color page before it's first ranking is that it's readership is low that it's a ploy by the editorial department as an attempt to boost the low readership. My opinion isn't biased, I enjoyed Beelzebub when it was being published, so if anything I'm of a neutral stand point when I say that I don't currently like Hungry Marie, which is why I'm giving it until it gets ranked to change my mind.

 

[SkerllyFC]

I see the reason Hungry Marie would receive a color page before it's first ranking is that it's readership is low that it's a ploy by the editorial department as an attempt to boost the low readership. My opinion isn't biased, I enjoyed Beelzebub when it was being published, so if anything I'm of a neutral stand point when I say that I don't like Hungry Marie.

Since chapter 1 nothing of it sticks with me. It´s a collection of tried and failed jokes with little action despite having the "action" tag, and that action is just for comedy, but it isn't funny either. And the romance is as bland as bland harem romance.

There´s no character progression, and little little little little plot progression so far. I want it to be cancelled. In that amount of time, We Never Learn has been developing its characters little by little. Sure it's not that big of progression, but as some mangas tend to throw a lot of informaiton about its main characters in 2 chapters and then not doing any more development, I like WNL's method.In 3 chapters, DR Stone lets you know Senkuu, the smart MC. I foun him likable.

6 chapters so far(I still have to read this one), we don't see more progression of the main characters besides the information we know about them in chapter 1. And Marie hasn't gotten any more development apart from chapter 3. The characters by now are as interesting as a brick. The only interesting plot point is the taoist group, but that has almost zero development.

And to think that it was a little overhyped because veterans. The more I can see is that Jump is pushing it to be a big success, because they need a big success inmediately, yet neither Neverland nor Yaiba are pushed, being the ones that are delivering the most out of the new ones.

I'll gonna read up to chapter 8 or 9 for a review that I'll upload on reddit. Yes, now I do reviews on reddit. Especially from Jump mangas that are starting.

 

[TyVip]

Why you think (based on pure nothing I might add) that a series that will receive a color page (before it's even ranked) would get axed right away? Please explain your logic not using your own biased opinion.

Too much One Piece money and I don't know what to do with it so....

Having a color page before it's even ranked doesn't mean that it is safe. In 2015/2016, Gakkyu Hotel, Mononofu, Yuragi and Kimetsu received a color page in chapter 7 and you know the story with the first two. There are more from the previous year but these series are more recent.

In fact, it is more likely for a series to survive if it receive a colour page after the first/second ranking (Nisekoi (9th chapter), Assassination Classroom (10th chapter), Shokugeki (9th chapter), My Hero Academia (10th chapter), The Promised Neverland (10th chapter) , Black Clover has one on its 11th chapter

 

[G_I_A]

I see the reason Hungry Marie would receive a color page before it's first ranking is that it's readership is low that it's a ploy by the editorial department as an attempt to boost the low readership. My opinion isn't biased, I enjoyed Beelzebub when it was being published, so if anything I'm of a neutral stand point when I say that I don't currently like Hungry Marie, which is why I'm giving it until it gets ranked to change my mind.

Again, you're saying things based on PURE NOTHING. Like somebody said before, Yuragisou no Yuuna-san also received a color page before its first chapter ranked. And well, it's by no means done.

Just because you don't like a series does not mean that it's bad or even that it's gonna be canceled.

It's ok to "think" it will be canceled but not to give a sentence with a "100% sure statement".

Just stop this.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 12, 2017, Original Post Date: Apr 12, 2017 ---

Too much One Piece money and I don't know what to do with it so....

Having a color page before it's even ranked doesn't mean that it is safe. In 2015/2016, Gakkyu Hotel, Mononofu, Yuragi and Kimetsu received a color page in chapter 7 and you know the story with the first two. There are more from the previous year but these series are more recent.

In fact, it is more likely for a series to survive if it receive a colour page after the first/second ranking (Nisekoi (9th chapter), Assassination Classroom (10th chapter), Shokugeki (9th chapter), My Hero Academia (10th chapter), The Promised Neverland (10th chapter) )

I completely agree with you. The difference between your comment and the other 2 is that you're based on facts, not on your opinion.

 

[savethecat]

Just because you don't like a series does not mean that it's bad or even that it's gonna be canceled.

It's ok to "think" it will be canceled but not to give a sentence with a "100% sure statement".

Just stop this.

The irony

 

[G_I_A]

The irony

Irony? Why? When did I say there a series should be canceled just because I don't like it?

Give me proof =)

To remind you:

Hinomaru Zumou - I said it should be canceled because it does not sell. It's a fact, not an opinion.
U19 - It is plain bad. Toc confirmed. Fact, not an opinion.

Am I forgeting something?

 

[Tamil]

When's the ToC coming?