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Games Mafia Game 57 - Tokyo Ghoul: Rebirth - END GAME
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You didn't either, all had the same info ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Either you're the actial miller and you're meming because Kato died over nothing or you're the mafia and are okay with this, because it's impossible you didn't once consider the card made me miller scenario. Now that Kato is dead and you claim now your card did it is very convenient
This is gonna turn into some retarded beef again.
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Imo, Arjuna should be offed today, and then tomorrow, perhaps it'd be worth it really looking closely at Farf and panda, and trying to nail the person lying. I'm not going to be around for most of the day, so I'm trying to post whatever thoughts I have here
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I wrote it before I saw her post.
Plus I'm not 100% sure about Magi. She's been claiming to be sure that Arjuna is mafia since D2 and yet only had a greater notion of that on N2.
Not saying I don't trust her and would choose to ignore her. But I'll listen to the rest first.
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Well I'm still curious about Monkey's action also. Let's see what he has for us today.
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If he isn't offed today, then II'm gonna do sepukku. xd That means townies are just too lulz
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Yeah, sure. I wanna hear what Monkey has to say and the rest also. Inb4 another lel beef from you and Panda incoming. Just too kawaii~~
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Well true, magi could be conjuring up results for us just to support pushing for Arjuna lynch, but afaik, it's not really his MO? That's something Lawl usually does instead..well, definitely can't be certain, but I doubt Magi would be lying as things stand
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Why? You think an insane doctor killing Greg, who was recruiting Panda, is unlikely?
And if you have an explanation for the Miller part, let me know. If you can also tell me why Monkey won't call me a liar, also let me know.
I've been revealing way more info than anyone in here, including you, which we don't know anything about.
Yet people couldn't find any single thing, in a very complex scenario I provided, that could be discredited with solid proofs. Not to mention Erin's results.
Now... "clearly" one of us is lying? I said like 3 times I'm waiting for more info to go with something.
Maybe we should start interrogating you as well, before you send people to their deaths, huh?
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I don‘t have much time right now, so I will just try to quickly write my thoughts.
No deaths is great, I wonder if that was Monkey or if a doc protected me or Erin. If he protected me I may have another innocent person. Maybe we need to come out with all roles and results this day phase?
As for Kato, his general attitude made it impossible for me to spare him and kill Panda instead as I said near the end of the day.
@Holt easy, either Arjun lied to us or... you know the mafia role which would make him ineffective. And if Zasz isn‘t lying about being bomb then I could imagine the role being in the game, at least as a tarot effect.
We should wait for Arjun to come here, I wonder what he will say. I doubt he will be genuinely confused about not blowing up though..
@Farfalla This is all so convenient. If not for Erin‘s detective result on us two I wouldn‘t trust you as much as I am. But she may be naive at this rate..
As for your explanation, it could make sense. Has Erin investigated you night 1 or night 2? She would‘ve been affected by your Miller role if it was n2.
And I know why I never considered it. First, you having a reverse tarot effect is only something you knew for sure. I still have never gotten any tarot effects myself whatsoever.
Second, the rules. Look back at the special rules. It says only for upright effect that the role can change, but not for reverse effect. It could be part of the „etc“ but I found it strange to omit the info of role change when it was present in the description of upright tarot. So I assumed reverse effect can‘t change your role, just affect your actions. Which is why I asked only Kato if he had a reverse effect which would affect his actions and results.
But apart from this being extremely convenient for you, ever since day 2, it does make sense. At least more than Kato lying to us i hope.
No deaths is great, I wonder if that was Monkey or if a doc protected me or Erin. If he protected me I may have another innocent person. Maybe we need to come out with all roles and results this day phase?
As for Kato, his general attitude made it impossible for me to spare him and kill Panda instead as I said near the end of the day.
@Holt easy, either Arjun lied to us or... you know the mafia role which would make him ineffective. And if Zasz isn‘t lying about being bomb then I could imagine the role being in the game, at least as a tarot effect.
We should wait for Arjun to come here, I wonder what he will say. I doubt he will be genuinely confused about not blowing up though..
@Farfalla This is all so convenient. If not for Erin‘s detective result on us two I wouldn‘t trust you as much as I am. But she may be naive at this rate..
As for your explanation, it could make sense. Has Erin investigated you night 1 or night 2? She would‘ve been affected by your Miller role if it was n2.
And I know why I never considered it. First, you having a reverse tarot effect is only something you knew for sure. I still have never gotten any tarot effects myself whatsoever.
Second, the rules. Look back at the special rules. It says only for upright effect that the role can change, but not for reverse effect. It could be part of the „etc“ but I found it strange to omit the info of role change when it was present in the description of upright tarot. So I assumed reverse effect can‘t change your role, just affect your actions. Which is why I asked only Kato if he had a reverse effect which would affect his actions and results.
But apart from this being extremely convenient for you, ever since day 2, it does make sense. At least more than Kato lying to us i hope.
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Arjuna situation is bad even aside from Magi's claim. The dude was supposed to blow up tonight, and bring someone with him. Not to mention the "I can't say I'm a time bomb or I'll be hostkilled" that Idk where it came from.
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Magi i picked up your hint near the end of day, I knew you were det. There was basically 0 chance for you to die last night, I had you covered.Okay let me counter this for you, since as I said yesterday I will reveal my role. So it's up to you guys to believe me or not. If you don't then just lynch me, okay?
Anyway, I'm your other detective.
I got night 1 on Panda -> Guilty
I got night 2 Arjuna -> Innocent
I got night 3 Grysun -> Guilty
And yeah, Gry is prolly gonna scold me out why I didn't said my results yesterday, but that situation was so fcking weird and as I said, it made me kinda confused with the whole Panda/Farfosh thing which was quite enjoyable tho, it made the day freaking funny. Even though I told you guys to kill fcking Arjuna since he is so fcking mafia like are you kidding me????? But then this whole Kato thing also came out of the blue and you guys wouldn't prolly listen to me anyway. *shrugs* So yeah, I'm also kinda at fault, I guess? Also, I just wanted one more day to have a clear confirmation about my sanity so I went for Gry this night because I truly believe he is actually 100% townie and also becaus I saw Erin-chan results which she investigated him yesterday. I thought that would be the best option also. So that's why I hoped you guys would kill Arjuna, but nooooooo of course you didn't in my absence. =_=
So it's up to you guys to believe me or not. As I said before, if you don't then just kill me.
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Then Kato invented the Miller part and I'm still a Mason.
Erin investigated me on N1.
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And you can't read either '-' Since disclosuring it IN MY FIRST POST OF THE DAY, as YOU REQUESTED, wasn't enough.
Repeating it all thru the day wasn't enough as well.
You and Panda just damn lynch me and then go fucking breed. Hell yeah, pleonasm...
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Oh, now you're with me on something that made it harder for me to realize it?? You won't say "yes", but thank you!
Also, yeah, I'm "a Mason", as far as I know, on a mason pad, but it's not weird to think that I'm actually not a mason in there \o/
I'm done with the two of you. Do wtv with this information, I'm really dropping the topic.
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I say so because both of your claims directly Implicate the other person. If not for anything, you say Greg targeted Panda and died, panda denies this naturally, instead claiming you probably conveniently claimed this being the only Mason rep. I don't have to be anything to tell that one of you is lying...its pretty obvious imo
I'm nothing special, and I have gotten no card effects so far. I mentioned before already that my card is Heirophant. And pardon me if I seem eager to take out mafia, but I'm hoping to get a card effect for it. I've not had much time to play the game because of school, but I know I definitely would've squeezed something out if my role provided me with some extra options.
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Did you target Greg on N2?
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Well at least after such a bad day for town this night was the most fruitive we could get. Now there's an obvious mafia against the ropes (bomb, lmao) and potential good det moves, now the only thing left is monkey to reveal his target and we get two mafias in a row.
rip kato though
rip kato though
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Okay
I'll write some of my thoughts because I have to make tea soon
Kato the bar keeper when he died seemed very certain that I was the mafia member, since it could justify the seemingly random mafia kill on Orgz. Now, I asked Vandred, and he said that you can actually even redirect roles that don't have effects that can be redirected. That is to say, there are 3 randomizations: the 3 players chosen, 1 out of 3 effects (block, redirect, reveal) and in the case of redirect, onto who. So you don't actually need to have an effect that can be redirected in the first place.
Initially, I thought he was simply lying, making it up. But that wouldn't be entirely consistent with Farfalla's account who I thought was the accomplice. But it turns out, he wasn't lying, but he was certain I was mafia because of an incorrect interpretation of the rules.
Now, I am saying I was an investigator, who I investigated and then why I was reluctant to explain.
Farfalla forgot about the cards we talked about all dayS. Like, the possibility of her turning miller never once crossed her mind while it could have easily saved Kato (who was speaking the truth) if she remembered the topics of discussion of the previous days. When the miller thing came up, she asked Arjun so nicely if he was townie, if he read it right?? But no, he claims bomb, you still haven't claimed it, Kato dies and now today, Arjun doesn't blow up. If he says it's because of his card, that would be the funniest thing.
(tbc)
I'll write some of my thoughts because I have to make tea soon
Kato the bar keeper when he died seemed very certain that I was the mafia member, since it could justify the seemingly random mafia kill on Orgz. Now, I asked Vandred, and he said that you can actually even redirect roles that don't have effects that can be redirected. That is to say, there are 3 randomizations: the 3 players chosen, 1 out of 3 effects (block, redirect, reveal) and in the case of redirect, onto who. So you don't actually need to have an effect that can be redirected in the first place.
Initially, I thought he was simply lying, making it up. But that wouldn't be entirely consistent with Farfalla's account who I thought was the accomplice. But it turns out, he wasn't lying, but he was certain I was mafia because of an incorrect interpretation of the rules.
Now, I am saying I was an investigator, who I investigated and then why I was reluctant to explain.
Farfalla forgot about the cards we talked about all dayS. Like, the possibility of her turning miller never once crossed her mind while it could have easily saved Kato (who was speaking the truth) if she remembered the topics of discussion of the previous days. When the miller thing came up, she asked Arjun so nicely if he was townie, if he read it right?? But no, he claims bomb, you still haven't claimed it, Kato dies and now today, Arjun doesn't blow up. If he says it's because of his card, that would be the funniest thing.
(tbc)
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Lynch me before Arjuna then and lemme out of here. Tired to argue against bias and double standards.
It's not like I couldn't get hostkilled just by mentioning D1 facts anyway.
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Votekill Arjuna
There, my daily quota is done. Now do wtv. I'll fulfill the minimal until you guys goddamn lynch me.
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Farfosh rofl? XDDD
You from all the people saying that? Dafuq is dis day even? Man, this day really is strange lmao. XD
You from all the people saying that? Dafuq is dis day even? Man, this day really is strange lmao. XD
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Zero deaths?!
That's cool! What a way to start the day!
Too bad that soon will be time for me to go to bed.
I'll see you tomorrow then guys!
That's cool! What a way to start the day!
Too bad that soon will be time for me to go to bed.
I'll see you tomorrow then guys!
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No. My targets N1 and N2 were Panda, then I lost faith in him after the previous day and thought he was recruited/changed into 3rd party. I noticed Magi's hint near the end of the previous day phase, thought that Erin will likely not be targeted because she had all the attention on her and would likely be protected. The mafia we are dealing with don't go for the active players but for safe kills(at least that's what I understood from Orgz's and Daws' deaths). That or Erin is lying and mafia, claiming a useless naive det is something they tend to do.
Needless to say I am a Bodyguard.
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@TSPanda you said your role changed with your tarot. Did you use your new role or found out what you did with it? Was it something that gave you back a result?
@Qixus @desin24 @Lambu @Holt reveal your roles, most of us already did. We may need to update Erin's list. I think that Qixus hinted at detective, an insane or paranoid one since she suspected me. This is strange since Magi seems to be the insane det. So it's possible either Qixus or Erin are lying. Or I got Qixus' hints wrong and she's not a detective, we need her to say things about that.
As for desin, Lambu and Holt I know nothing. But it's important to note that there is apparently still a Sickly somehow, since Lambu has non-voter disease. Holt gives me very bad feelings, he plays quite unlike how he played the game before.
!votekill Arjuna for sure, I doubt he will even bother to come here and try to defend himself. We should use the rest of our day to gather intel.
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That was obvious since the start to be honest. You are notified of your tarot upright/reverse effect immediately once the day ends. Or so it says in the OP, since I never got any PM about a tarot effect, which is really sad since I wanted to test out the promising tarot system. But at this point I think I tried everything which could give me an effect and nothing happened.
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It is technically a legit interaction, since for example a Mentor could recruit a Mason as his Mentee, and that Mason would of course still be able to use his pad.
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