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How did Elizabeth figure out that she and Meliodas were cursed?


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Thank you for arguing against your own points, you just proved she does have the power to go against Prime Meliodas(even in nerfed form), if she were weak, the exploding ark wouldn't have budged the physical strength monster, much less blown him into the furniture across the room, you're saying it yourself, she has the power and offensive ability to make a stand against her opponents and that's a manga proven fact.
Her kind of purification is in fact dis-spelling of power buffs(which PoD brings about in demons), acknowledge the meaning nuance a term is given into the de facto material first and then you can start making a point, if you understand what "purification" of PoD means to demons.

An explosive Ark is an energy blast that even damages landscape, trees and buildings(as seen in the manga), it can damage anything and everything if used carelessly and it remains an offensive skill in the hands of Elizabeth.

Several other people than the few you accuse of being "fanboys" have tried to explain it to you before, you're still in denial.
Expect to be blocked if you don't at least learn to abstain from bashing, even if you can't like the character, no matter what she does or is said to do.
Lol what? Where I proved that? You are once again daydreaming about things that didn't happen but I shouldn't be surprised from you at this point.
Which strength? Which opponents? She has never shown that kind of strength, nor even the hype of it. She was almost killed by Chandler, she always needs assistance from someone.
Her purification is useless ( against no demons ) and needs the plot to be land, each time, Derrierie and Monspiet keep saying " risk her life " to save us, they know that she could die easily lol.
Show me Elizabeth fighting alone against an opponent in a true one on one fight and winning alone? Good luck for that kind of moment coming from a princess lmao.

It is rich coming from you, you are the only fanboy here if only you knew. I am still waiting for Elizabeth using that kind of skill from her ark, keep dreaming.
 

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I agree. Volume 28 is probably what you're referencing to, which has Elizabeth manifesting 3 pairs of Goddess wings.

But Elizabeth indirectly said herself that she wasn't as strong as her Goddess form when she was commenting on reversing Meliodas condition.

If she did obtain the graces or got her wings back then it should give her full power back.

But why her blood tho? That hasn't been explained yet ( =( ) - I agree tho.
Yeah, that cover. It's true that she said she wasn't able to help against Mel's "evolution/involution" back then, that's why I'm thinking that something(magic in nature) will launch further development/regression to her original power and she'll have to "adjust" her body(growing her wings) to be able to contain it effectively and properly manifest it. And I suppose she'll also become capable of controlling the state of her eyes.
Her blood because it holds genuine "Hand of Light" power, unlike what the actual druids have, a lesser copy(imho) of Ark. Even before she awoke her memories and full identity, she was noted by Hendy to have superior in quality power when she saved Merlin; and before that she nullified Dark Nebula, damaged Ash!Hendy and aoe healed hundreds of people from near death, even. If Jenna and Zanerri do pretty good stuff while possessing human bodies, like sealing 29k of Demon Power in an GA, and they're likely under the level of DLC in the clan, then Elizabeth's blood is off the charts in a human body as it may have been "constructed" through the curse for her and her alone. The way she is right now, she's an anomaly among the goddesses active in Britannia rn, and I suspect that may end up working not just against, but for her as well.
 

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And this is why I love you, found the core problem of his argument before I had chance to edit mine.



Urm, okay? :8C:notsure:m3j
Imagine me in youtube or vsbattle forum saying or implying that Elizabeth did better than the greatest coming hype that is the " praise the sun " dude.
You think that people will even take me seriously? Be honest lmao.

That is why I told you to stop, Escanor stand at the top of the food chain, he is the Alpha ( people see him as the greatest character of the century, I am not joking, they even believe that he can fight Saitama lmao ) that shit on everything in his way and you are bringing someone like Elizabeth lmao.
 
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Lol what? Where I proved that? You are once again daydreaming about things that didn't happen but I shouldn't be surprised from you at this point.
Which strength? Which opponents? She has never shown that kind of strength, nor even the hype of it. She was almost killed by Chandler, she always needs assistance from someone.
Her purification is useless ( against no demons ) and needs the plot to be land, each time, Derrierie and Monspiet keep saying " risk her life " to save us, they know that she could die easily lol.
Show me Elizabeth fighting alone against an opponent in a true one on one fight and winning alone? Good luck for that kind of moment coming from a princess lmao.

It is rich coming from you, you are the only fanboy here if only you knew. I am still waiting for Elizabeth using that kind of skill from her ark, keep dreaming.
In the very part I highlighted from your post. Don't mistake "corroborating facts" for "daydreaming, it makes you look worse. :teach
Are you denying 114k+ PL Meliodas has the physical strength to remain standing, bruise or no bruise, against a slap he let happen?!?! Are you contradicting yourself on Ark being effective against demons, but only if it has enough MP and purpose behind it to damage? When Elizabeth only wanted to really slap! him?! Are you denying the faces he made both when he saw her forming the ark and once he was down on the floor?! Are you saying
never happened?!?! He was never shocked with nerfed Elizabeth doing that to him?!?:yoda:umad
This is becoming hilarious. So the Indura are powerful to be pushing Elizabeth back, and that's one reason she's "weak" and "lame", but with the fact of Elizabeth throwing to the ground the most powerful demon currently in Britannia against your claim "that she has no offensive ability, she's too weak" you're making this too easy, please, stop with the absurd claims, the manga is working more and more against you. It's not me, it's the manga disproving you.
You asked for feats, she has the taming of the army from 201 under her belt and delivering the most damage to the Induras that freaked all the other TC and worried the demon with the most offensive power in the series, besides the King/God of the Clan, she survived both attempts from Chandler to kill her, regardless of Diane's interference in the 2nd(the wound to the forehead+ Diane's swift grab should've made her lose consciousness at least, instead, she immediately self-healed) so, all that Chandler gave her was a poke to the back and a haircut:wooo.
You asked for hype, the mage with the highest potential in this series and all 4 AAs have been doing that for a while now(in different ways), but long before that the guy you're obsessively trying to have all alone at the top:epicfacepalm stated she's been his partner for ages now, he giddily and admiringly boasted about her being the most impressive(power-wise) woman in his opinion, and so far, in her clan, there's no character implied to overall surpass her besides her mom, the goddess who can reach The One praised her :heh.
I must admit it's impressive how brave you are to still be this loud against the manga facts starting to pour and threatening to turn into a tsunami against your "opinions" on the events in this series. But still, chill before you turn into a clown about it:notsure
 

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The annoying there here is let’s at least keep some continuity.

I know for a fact one of the two people here claimed the ark was only that effective because someone here noted it was for “comedic effect”

I also know that there are some who don’t acknowledge that Goddess magic is particularly deadly to demon kind, in spite of the fact that it was stated by Monspeet and Diane.

Also, the currently not dead Sun praised Merlin, but she had a power level of only 4,000 at the time. So why is Elizabeth getting special treatment. And not to mention we currently don’t even know what Mael praised her about

I mean the hypocrisy here just reaks along with the uncessary assumptions
 
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In the very part I highlighted from your post. Don't mistake "corroborating facts" for "daydreaming, it makes you look worse. :teach
Are you denying 114k+ PL Meliodas has the physical strength to remain standing, bruise or no bruise, against a slap he let happen?!?! Are you contradicting yourself on Ark being effective against demons, but only if it has enough MP and purpose behind it to damage? When Elizabeth only wanted to really slap! him?! Are you denying the faces he made both when he saw her forming the ark and once he was down on the floor?! Are you saying
never happened?!?! He was never shocked with nerfed Elizabeth doing that to him?!?:yoda:umad
This is becoming hilarious. So the Indura are powerful to be pushing Elizabeth back, and that's one reason she's "weak" and "lame", but with the fact of Elizabeth throwing to the ground the most powerful demon currently in Britannia against your claim "that she has no offensive ability, she's too weak" you're making this too easy, please, stop with the absurd claims, the manga is working more and more against you. It's not me, it's the manga disproving you.
You asked for feats, she has the taming of the army from 201 under her belt and delivering the most damage to the Induras that freaked all the other TC and worried the demon with the most offensive power in the series, besides the King/God of the Clan, she survived both attempts from Chandler to kill her, regardless of Diane's interference in the 2nd(the wound to the forehead+ Diane's swift grab should've made her lose consciousness at least, instead, she immediately self-healed) so, all that Chandler gave her was a poke to the back and a haircut:wooo.
You asked for hype, the mage with the highest potential in this series and all 4 AAs have been doing that for a while now(in different ways), but long before that the guy you're obsessively trying to have all alone at the top:epicfacepalm stated she's been his partner for ages now, he giddily and admiringly boasted about her being the most impressive(power-wise) woman in his opinion, and so far, in her clan, there's no character implied to overall surpass her besides her mom, the goddess who can reach The One praised her :heh.
I must admit it's impressive how brave you are to still be this loud against the manga facts starting to pour and threatening to turn into a tsunami against your "opinions" on the events in this series. But still, chill before you turn into a clown about it:notsure
Yeah, it didn't do anything major on him, a bruise is nothing lmao, Nami did the same against Luffy, Sakura did the same against Naruto, Bulma did the same Goky himself lol, should I continue?
How many times is a MC in shonen slapped by a woman during a quarrel? Learn that trope next time, and it always ends with a bruise on the male lmao.
Most powerful? Lmao, once again, you are twisting thing, far from it, and she got help as always for that.
Chandler almost killed her, no doubt that Diane saved her, she is so weak that he needs his cheek to severely damage ( with blood, what I call true damage ) her lol.

Not that kind of hype, I ask a hype similar to the hype of Meliodas and Escanor, strength related type of hype, being more powerful than the others. Until now, you failed to provide that simple thing.
She is praised for her healing and supporting skills, nothing new here.
 

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Oh yeah, Sakura has actually hurt Naruto before. I guess this must mean she’s the hokage tier.

Nah but in all seriousness the exceptions made for Elizabeth are just plain dumb now. Literally every major manga has scenes where the protagonists get bodied just for comedic effect. Diane used to do it all the time in part 1, yet no one ever made her seem op

Not to mention everyone who claimed that Elizabeth is OP because of her heritage just got proven wrong a few days ago. Thank you Estarassoa and for you example of waiting and seeing instead of assuming
 

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Oh yeah, Sakura has actually hurt Naruto before. I guess this must mean she’s the hokage tier.

Nah but in all seriousness the exceptions made for Elizabeth are just plain dumb now. Literally every major manga has scenes where the protagonists get bodied just for comedic effect. Diane used to do it all the time in part 1, yet no one ever made her seem op
Nami hurt both Luffy and Zorro when they were fighting against each other before meeting Crocodile. She must be at their level too lmao.

Literally, Sakura, Bulma, Rukia and any female lead hurt the MC fighter with a slap sooner or later, no MC in a shonen battle manga escape that trope, not even Goku ( cough Chichi and Bulma cough ) lol.
It is like some fanboys discovered that things now. Or how desperate they truly are to use that kind of trope as an argument lmao.
 

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Some ignore the context of the scenes and create non-existent scenarios. It's ridiculous.

The tension around Elizabeth and Meliodas was evident.
Elizabeth managed to deal with 2 Induras with Ark, even if she later needed help to finish the job.
If Nakaba wanted to create a comical and illogical scene, Elizabeth would not use Ark.
Elizabeth's Ark was emphasized. It was large, powerful and caused an explosion.
Elizabeth is the daughter of the Supreme Deity and has inherited a great deal of power. Unlike any of these female characters cited.
Elizabeth was praised by Merlin and perhaps Mael for her power.

Ignoring the context of the scenes and the rest of the manga is ridiculous. The hatred for his character is so exaggerated that some close his eyes to his deeds.
 

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The annoying fact here is that some people here, with the purpose of not starting another monster argument about Elizabeth's power-gauge may have tried to ignore their instincts and their understanding of the story to let the rest of the readers have some fun and their own opinions, considering the previous arguments about why there was a lot of foreshadowing on Elizabeth being one of the most powerful heroes and showing/implying that potential were being far too loudly opposed leading to notifications from the mods; some of us tried to keep it low and not claim that one as proof and only appreciate the entertaining artwork reminiscent of some childhood cartoons(Charlie Brown's eyes on Mel?) in those panels, but that attempt failed, since some people would not let go of :deadhorse; so,
, the fans analysing it seriously.
I can let sleeping dogs lay as long as people don't become rude about things I know and enjoy.
Also, I know for a fact that regardless of the dynamic of the 2 elements, which I can say I grew to accept, the fact remains that it can't function on its own and one needs particularly high MP and personal prowess(excellent ability) to make it effective on an opponent of superior caliber, else, we'd be claiming that Nerobusty, Jelamet, Jenna or Zanerri could've gone against the DK or the entirety of the TC and been successful on elemental dynamic alone. Besides, Ark is "dangerous" not "deadly"(the latter term implies a far higher level of efficiency than shown in the manga up to date)
The point remains that a nerfed Elizabeth had the magic ability(in quality and quantity) to make up for physical strength disparity and get Meliodas(the guy who now must have the highest Str stat in Britannia) down on his back, while only aiming to slap him. It's a huge difference to what even Arthur temporarily managed with str from the heroic forefathers, considering the king was trying to defeat Meliodas.
So, whether one calls it an attempt at politeness or hypocrisy from the users, the manga is still bringing up what was demanded by the naysayers: feats and hype for Elizabeth.
Merlin is getting the same "special treatment" from the manga and from enough readers, thanks to Gowther's recent statement(while she was fixing him) and development is happening to both.
A powerful character is not only made out of their PL, their abilities(and their inherent qualities), skills and knowledge on how to use them also matter, however, we've had Elizabeth managing feats even when working only on instinct, cause I haven't seen anyone teaching her how to conjure Ark before ch 188.
And it wasn't just the "dead" Sun who was acknowledging Elizabeth and her power and skills, it was the 3 other AAs as well, but, hey, I've dropped most of the politeness when that "comedic effect" comment backfired(ergo, my signature), so I had to point out that it's now 4/4 AAs "praising" her, including the elite goddess with the highest known Hax. I will only acknowledge arguments made in a sensible tone, the rest, I'll answer to in a corresponding tone.
Basically, we've just gotten an update on all 4 AAs agreeing on Elizabeth being indeed a "special snowflake" in the Clan. And still no sign of someone more "special" than Elizabeth than mommy dearest herself. You know, the source of the aforementioned Hax(Sunshine).
 
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Some ignore the context of the scenes and create non-existent scenarios. It's ridiculous.

The tension around Elizabeth and Meliodas was evident.
Elizabeth managed to deal with 2 Induras with Ark, even if she later needed help to finish the job.
If Nakaba wanted to create a comical and illogical scene, Elizabeth would not use Ark.
Elizabeth's Ark was emphasized. It was large, powerful and caused an explosion.
Elizabeth is the daughter of the Supreme Deity and has inherited a great deal of power. Unlike any of these female characters cited.
Elizabeth was praised by Merlin and perhaps Mael for her power.

Ignoring the context of the scenes and the rest of the manga is ridiculous. The hatred for his character is so exaggerated that some close his eyes to his deeds.
The tension between Nami and the fight between Luffy and Zoro too lol. Nice try.
Same with the daughter of Naruto one shooting Naruto himself, the Hokage, even Kurama feel it and he was KOed. That trope happens a lot in shonen.
She inherited nothing, same with Meliodas, he inherits nothing, his power is from himself, he was born with a mere 300 of PL when he was a child, confirmed by Nakaba, so powerful indeed lmao. Estarossa with zero Darkness and Zeldoris probably weak as hell too.

More like the wank of her character is ridiculous, more ridiculous than any character here.
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The annoying fact here is that some people here, with the purpose of not starting another monster argument about Elizabeth's power-gauge may have tried to ignore their instincts and their understanding of the story to let the rest of the readers have some fun and their own opinions, considering the previous arguments about why there was a lot of foreshadowing on Elizabeth being one of the most powerful heroes and showing/implying that potential were being far too loudly opposed leading to notifications from the mods; some of us tried to keep it low and not claim that one as proof and only appreciate the entertaining artwork reminiscent of some childhood cartoons(Charlie Brown's eyes on Mel?) in those panels, but that attempt failed, since some people would not let go of :deadhorse; so,
, the fans analysing it seriously.
I can let sleeping dogs lay as long as people don't become rude about things I know and enjoy.
Also, I know for a fact that regardless of the dynamic of the 2 elements, which I can say I grew to accept, the fact remains that it can't function on its own and one needs particularly high MP and personal prowess(excellent ability) to make it effective on an opponent of superior caliber, else, we'd be claiming that Nerobusty, Jelamet, Jenna or Zanerri could've gone against the DK or the entirety of the TC and been successful on elemental dynamic alone. Besides, Ark is "dangerous" not "deadly"(the latter term implies a far higher level of efficiency than shown in the manga up to date)
The point remains that a nerfed Elizabeth had the magic ability quality and quantity to make up for physical strength disparity and get Meliodas(the guy who no must have the highest Str stat in Britannia) down on his back, while only aiming to slap him. It's a huge difference to what even Arthur temporarily managed with str from the heroic forefathers, considering the king was trying to defeat Meliodas.
So, whether one calls it an attempt at politeness or hypocrisy from the users, the manga is still bringing up what was demanded by the naysayers: feats and hype for Elizabeth.
Merlin is getting the same "special treatment" from the manga and from enough readers, thanks to Gowther's recent statement(while she was fixing him) and development is happening to both.
A powerful character is not only made out of their PL, their abilities(and their inherent qualities), skills and knowledge on how to use them also matter, however, we've had Elizabeth managing feats even when working only on instinct, cause I haven't seen anyone teaching her on how to conjure Ark before 188.
And it wasn't just the "dead" Sun who was acknowledging Elizabeth and her power and skills, it was the 3 other AAs as well, but, hey, I've dropped most of the politeness when that "comedic effect" comment backfired(ergo, my signature), so I had to point out that it's now 4/4 AAs "praising" her, including the elite goddess with the highest known Hax.
Just an update on all 4 AAs agreeing on Elizabeth being indeed a "special snowflake" in the Clan. And still no sign of someone more "special" than Elizabeth than mommy dearest herself. You know, the source of the aforementioned Hax(Sunshine).
Praising her doesn't mean that she is more powerful than them in a fight, particularly Mael who has the same power as Escanor, you know that guy who one-shots Meliodas ( her husband ) in his strongest form with a single attack lmao.

Nice wank once again.
 

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The tension between Nami and the fight between Luffy and Zoro too lol. Nice try.
Same with the daughter of Naruto one shooting Naruto himself, the Hokage, even Kurama feel it and he was KOed. That trope happens a lot in shonen.
She inherited nothing, same with Meliodas, he inherits nothing, his power is from himself, he is born with a mere 300 of PL when he was a child, confirmed by Nakaba, so powerful indeed lmao. Estarossa with zero Darkness and Zeldoris probably weak as hell too.

More like the wank of her character is ridiculous, more ridiculous than any character here.
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Praising her doesn't mean that she is more powerful than them in a fight, particularly Mael who has the same power as Escanor, you know that guy who one-shots Meliodas ( her husband ) in his strongest form with a single attack lmao.

Nice wank once again.
So Mael was praising her on her beauty and kindness, not on prowess?!? Damn, the spoiler had me fooled.
You got it backwards already before you were corrected, Elizabeth in nerfed form did the one-shot without the conditions required by The One. And that is only one of the many elements of foreshadowing she's gotten, learn to live with it.


EDIT: Also, a bit of an update for you about your "Alpha" theory, in reality, it's the LIONESS(female) who leads the Pride(and the hunt), not the male, and that's not the only social group where it happens, but back to the series' point, the GC is so far matriarchal and it heavily implies the SD and her offspring(with Elizabeth as the only known or implied one) are at the top of the food chain.
 
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So Mael was praising her on her beauty and kindness, not on prowess?!? Damn, the spoiler had me fooled.
You got it backwards already before Otaku corrected you, Elizabeth in nerfed form did the one-shot without the conditions required by The One. And that is only one of the many elements of foreshadowing she's gotten, learn to live with it.
For her healing skills lmao. Nope, she isn't nerfed, Merlin stated that she recovered her original power as soon as her curse activate, try again.

Even that, she almost got killed by Chandler's cheeks lol.
 

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This text is so incoherent and meaningless that it is a waste of time to respond.

Is Nami the daughter of one of the most powerful beings in the universe? Did Nami use any ability to hurt Luffy and Zoro? Has anyone ever praised Nami for his power (by itself, do not tell Zeus. I know you can do that)?

As for Himawari ... my faith in you is almost under 0.

"Tenketsu of the Parade (Ky の 点穴, Kyūshi in Tenketsu), located in the stomach, by pressing it, it is possible to faint and stop the movements of the target safely, leaving him unconscious for a whole day.a user Byakugan"

Himawari hit this Tenketsu on a lucky basis. The Hyuuga directly strikes the tenketsus and the organs causing internal damage. Kishimoto inserted this tenketsu, basically ignores the opponent's durability, however, requires a very large concentration for the Hyuuga.

And Elizabeth did not inherit anything? Hilarious.
Liz inherited a great deal of power. He stopped two Induras for a while without needing help.

Please stop inventing. That's annoying.
 

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This text is so incoherent and meaningless that it is a waste of time to respond.

Is Nami the daughter of one of the most powerful beings in the universe? Did Nami use any ability to hurt Luffy and Zoro? Has anyone ever praised Nami for his power (by itself, do not tell Zeus. I know you can do that)?

As for Himawari ... my faith in you is almost under 0.

"Tenketsu of the Parade (Ky の 点穴, Kyūshi in Tenketsu), located in the stomach, by pressing it, it is possible to faint and stop the movements of the target safely, leaving him unconscious for a whole day.a user Byakugan"

Himawari hit this Tenketsu on a lucky basis. The Hyuuga directly strikes the tenketsus and the organs causing internal damage. Kishimoto inserted this tenketsu, basically ignores the opponent's durability, however, requires a very large concentration for the Hyuuga. Himawari nodded.

And Elizabeth did not inherit anything? Hilarious.
Liz inherited a great deal of power. He stopped two Induras for a while without needing help.

Please stop inventing. That's annoying.
Show me Elizabeth being praised for having a " fighter " like strength and power. Nami is a pirate, and this is a fact that she KOed both Luffy and Zoro on screen in the same way that you are arguing right now and in a more serious situation, Luffy and Zoro were literally under a fight.

Still, Naruto was hit by it in part 1 against Neji ( true fighter and genius of the Hyuuga Clan ), he didn't collapse but against Himawari, he got KOed, guess using your logic, she is stronger and more relevant right? Lol.

Yes, she didn't inherit anything, in the same way, that the Demons brothers didn't inherit shit from their Father at birth. Literally, Meliodas was 300, as pathetic as a mere basic fodder Demons when he was a child ( Nakaba confirmed it ), Estarossa with zero darkness, even worst than Meliodas and Zeldoris is the same as Meliodas.
Meliodas has zero power, as complex as his father, he has nothing but his own strength, trained by Chandler to increase it.

That proves that being the child of the DK/SD doesn't makes you OP, you still need training and a master and you have your own strength and magic. Literally, Meliodas has zero abilities from his Father, same for his Brothers, Zeldoris is a special case since his Father let him his strength and magic, not something that he was born with.

She needs help, in fact, she never accomplishes something alone, she always needs assistance lmao.
You are the one who should stop inventing.
 
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For her healing skills lmao. Nope, she isn't nerfed, Merlin stated that she recovered her original power as soon as her curse activate, try again.

Even that, she almost got killed by Chandler's cheeks lol.
Is it specified it was only for her "healing" skills?! Cause the way it reads it's overall. She is nerfed, she's cursed, into an inferior physical form, lacking the physical testament of her power(the wings) and with her eyes in different colours loudly claiming it since chapter 1, considering her former need for side-bangs and the very complex about the eye discussed in the couple fanbook. Eyes of different colour displaying impaired use of the power one would naturally have is a commonality in fiction, other than for testifying for the bearer's mixed descendance(the latter, so far, is not the case with Elizabeth).
She stated herself she doesn't "currently" have the power to stop Mel's regression, which implies there should be a moment in the manga chronology where she has superior power to what she has right now.
And Merlin's statement is about her "true", not "full" power, those words have different meanings,especially when "power" is such a versatile concept, summed from the combination of both raw energy and ability/skill quality when applying it.
 

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Oh my God. What part did not understand that this Tenketsu requires a very large concentration for a Hyuuga to hit? Hinata in Novel only managed to hit because the enemy was paralyzed by Shikamaru's shadow. Neji only hit the 64 tenketsus of Naruto, preventing him from casting chakra. Himawari was lucky, it was an accident.
About Nami, stop. I refuse to argue about this bullshit. Desperate argument.

And I already told you once. I'm still not confident of Elizabeth's performance in battle, a fighter will do more than just have power. My point is that Elizabeth has offensive capability. What you completely ignore. And answering her question, Merlin praised Elizabeth for her power. Possibly Mael too (?).
 

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Is it specified it was only for her "healing" skills?! Cause the way it reads it's overall. She is nerfed, she's cursed, into an inferior physical form, lacking the physical testament of her power(the wings) and with her eyes in different colours loudly claiming it since chapter 1, considering her former need for side-bangs and the very complex about the eye discussed in the couple fanbook. Eyes of different colour displaying impaired use of the power one would naturally have is a commonality in fiction, other than for testifying for the bearer mixed descendance(which so far is not the case with Elizabeth).
She stated herself she doesn't "currently" have the power to stop Mel's regression, which implies there should be a moment in the manga chronology where she has superior power.
And Merlin's statement is about her "true", not "full" power, those words have different meanings,especially when "power" is such a versatile concept, summed from the combination of both raw energy and ability/skill quality.
Wrong again, it is as you wish to see but it is a fact that she is praised for the things that she does the most: healing, her specialty.

Wrong again, Merlin confirmed in the recent chapter that her power is the same as the original one as soon as her curse is activated, it is the EOS game of the manga, 1+1=2.
You are basically ignoring facts now. She stated that, which means that she lacks that power, not that she has superior power ( as Merlin noted already, and new information reckon the old one )
https://readms.net/r/the_seven_deadly_sins/258/4953/8

Try harder to deny it next time.
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Oh my God. What part did not understand that this Tenketsu requires a very large concentration for a Hyuuga to hit? Hinata in Novel only managed to hit because the enemy was paralyzed by Shikamaru's shadow. Neji only hit the 64 tenketsus of Naruto, preventing him from casting chakra. Himawari was lucky, it was an accident.
About Nami, stop. I refuse to argue about this bullshit. Desperate argument.

And I already told you once. I'm still not confident of Elizabeth's performance in battle, a fighter will do more than just have power. My point is that Elizabeth has offensive capability. What you completely ignore. And answering her question, Merlin praised Elizabeth for her power. Possibly Mael too (?).
You are the one who is desperate here, I am mimicking you here.
Neji failed to KOed Naruto by using the Hyuuga style, gentle fist but a kid such as Himawari can do it with EOS Naruto? As I said, it is the trope that I was talking about.
Wrong again, Merlin praised her skills, not power. Elizabeth has some offensive ability? Yeah, but her personality opt to use healing skill and technique more than offensive ability right? Right? Lmao. Even inside a war, I see zero Ark from her, she remains on the sidelines like the princess she is, always inactive from battle.

Why doesn't she show off her offensive skills? It is that difficult to do when you have fodders demons as target practice lmao, the sins managed to do it, the Archangels too, even Holy Knights lmao.
 

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Elizabeth slapping Meliodas wasn't a comedic moment nor was it a testament of her being even close to his level of power.

We know she's for sure above the level of an average Goddess,but if or how much power she inherited from her Mom has to be even proven and shown.
 

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Wrong again, it is as you wish to see but it is a fact that she is praised for the things that she does the most: healing, her specialty.

Wrong again, Merlin confirmed in the recent chapter that her power is the same as the original one as soon as her curse is activated, it is the EOS game of the manga, 1+1=2.
You are basically ignoring facts now. She stated that, which means that she lacks that power, not that she has superior power ( as Merlin noted already, and new information reckon the old one )
https://readms.net/r/the_seven_deadly_sins/258/4953/8

Try harder to deny it next time.
I don't need to try anything, you need to improve your understanding and use of English, true and full don't have the same meaning and that's the end of it. Statements like "true power" have been made about Meliodas since the Istar arc, it's still gone far and beyond that 32500 mark and continuing to go higher still.
With what we have so far, Elizabeth has earned as much hype as the goddess who achieves The One and it's so far about "power", since in @FKS 's translation of the summary, there's literally emphasis on the "strongest" archangel praising her. I'm joining @Rigel in advising you to stop dismissing context.
There's no retcon if you know the difference between "true" and "full".
 
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