NIGHT 1 ACTIONS
Mafia Killing- zasz poisons lambu
Blocking-Marmalade blocks Demonspeed
Investigating-Finalbeta investigates TSPanda>>>success>>> TSPanda's role is ‘Prostitute’
Pirate Takuan- no action
Kato -no action
Panda - block crescent>>> succeeds
Demon - protect zasz >>>> get blocked by marmalade
Shinobi>>> protect Zasz
Lambu only when protecting>>>>>>flips coin>>>Protects Vandred
Goodboy_lawlett - investigate kato >>>> innocent
Holt - investigate >>>> no action
SonofDaws>>> no action
Gryffindor>>>>>>Infect Zasz
Crescent>>> Learn from Holt>>>>get blocked by panda >>>>failed
Seraph>>>>>Learn from Erinyes >>> successs
Belserion>>>>>Kills Lawlett
DAY 2 - No penalties
Zasz has a flu and cannot vote on Day 2
NIGHT 2 ACTIONS
Finalbeta- Investigates Demonspeed >>> Your target's role is Doctor
Marmaladesky >>>blocks crescentjinx
Kato>>> kill Vandred>>> flip fails
Takuan -steals from TSPanda>>> fails
Panda>>>Blocks Jinx
Demon >>> Protect Jinx>>>>>No effect
Shinobi>>> protects Lambu
Lambu >>> Protects Holt>>> flips coin, success
Holt >>> investigate Takuan >>> result is ‘guilty’
SonofDaws>>>> hides behind demon>>>>succeeds
Gryffindor>>>>>>infects Lambu
Crescent>>>Learns from Holt>>>>blocked, fails
Seraph>>> Learns from Erinyes>>> succeeds>>> Becomes Pirate
Erinyes>>> no action
Belserion>>>>> kill takuan >>>succeeds
DAY 3
Erin gets 3 penalty votes for not posting thrice and 1 penalty vote for not voting.
NIGHT 3 ACTIONS
Finalbeta – investigate Holt>>>>>>Learns role 'Detective'
Marmaladesky >>blocks shinobi
Kato>>> kill erin>>>flip coin>>>succeeds
Panda>>> Block Erinyes
Shinobi>>> Protect Holt>>>blocked by escort
Holt >>>investigates Panda>>> gets innocent
SonofDaws>>>> hides behind Belserion>>>succeeds
Gryffindor>>>>>> infect Vandred
Crescent>>> learn form bel>>>>succeeds>>> has the role stolen, becomes townie
Seraph>>> Steal/Pirate CrescentJinx>>> succeeds, becomes “insane Apprentice”
Erinyes>>> no action
Belserion>>>>> kill Vandred>>>succeeds
DAY 4 SKIPPED
NIGHT 4 ACTIONS
Marmaladesky >Blocks Panda>>>>>Coin flip>>>>>Succeeds
Kato>>> Kills Holt>>>>>coin flip succeeds
Finalbeta >>>>>>Investigates Belserion>>>>Learns Role 'Serial Killer'
Demon is a great mafia, he countless times let his nakama dying, and just step over their dead bodies to reach the top, as any great mafia should do ! thats how is he
So... you were too preoccupied with whether you could put those roles in, that you didn't stop to think if you should? You explained why you wanted them in the game, but didn't explain why you think the role list is good the way it is, or what purpose many of the roles serve.
The biggest problem I have with the setup are easily the 2 Apprentices and 2 Pirates. Pirate is mainly a townie confirmation tool, while Apprentice is that + a huge wildcard throwing balance out the window depending on which role it copies, making everything highly unstable. The best and worst case for them all could've made the game unwinnable for either team by day 3. 11/19 possible targets for them were either bad roles or outright death. One of which is the funny situation of them targeting each other, which even happened with Seraph going in circles. What was the purpose of having so many of them? Was it just to have wildcards that can create chaos? Or just for fun of the hosts to spectate?
Then there's all these active roles. 3 Docs, one of each version, which is a fancy way of saying there's only 1 doc and 2 liabilities which will get each other lynched upon reveal. Same with the paranoid Spy. Was his purpose to troll whichever player ends up with it so he blames/lynches the wrong person? Or messes up the Apprentices or other claims? The only passive roles were a vengeful, who rarely gets lynched so it's likely town has no killing potential in this setup, and the Freeman who is there to either balance out whatever is destroyed by the Apprentices/bunch of active roles or to further ruin a bad situation.
And finally, it's extremely coin-toss heavy. Which turns it more into a game of luck. Same problem I had with the Umineko game iirc. You said you wanted to make town stronger than in RWBY, but in the end just made a lot of pitfalls in terms of troll-roles and randomness.
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Main difference is that you didn't take the leading position like in OPM, actively leading all talks and who gets questioned/lynched and here you didn't. Only had a few catfights with 1-2 people every day but other than that no detective work like last time. Thought you'd have to be mafia for sure with how you don't feel like pressuring more than few people
But now I see your plan, and I guess it's.. doable, but kinda unreliable. Alas. Hope to see you hunt people again next time
Wildcards to have chaos
Also, isn't one of the Pirates a Mafia one? I can kinda see the problem with the Apprentices (Even if one of them had the potential to become a Mafia member/Third party), but both pirates are from different allegiances. How does that break game balance? Or maybe im not seeing the bigger picture here.
Also, isn't one of the Pirates a Mafia one? I can kinda see the problem with the Apprentices (Even if one of them had the potential to become a Mafia member/Third party), but both pirates are from different allegiances. How does that break game balance? Or maybe im not seeing the bigger picture here.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like when chaos is forced onto the game/manufactured via roles
Ah well. In the end it somehow worked out and gave us all a fun game. But you gotta adjust the phase hours better, and try not to risk the setup so much. And less troll roles as well if you could... James saved me from ruining a lot with Paranoid Spy(with Panda still doing my part with that one ), and if I got to live longer with this I'd probably be a lot more angry post-game When will I see a normal-ish game out of you and Bia?
Thanks a lot,that is really nice of you guys!
I didn't think i did that well but apparently i managed to prove myself in this Game,really hoping to play a Mafia Role or TP Next Time that'd be fun.
Also Fun Fact,i actually had prepared a Cover for me had i ended up as a Mafia at the start. Maybe i can use it next time.
Thanks a lot,that is really nice of you guys!
I didn't think i did that well but apparently i managed to prove myself in this Game,really hoping to play a Mafia Role or TP Next Time that'd be fun.
Also Fun Fact,i actually had prepared a Cover for me had i ended up as a Mafia at the start. Maybe i can use it next time.
Look at him, expecting to get to play mafia. You could be the new me
Compared to all beginners we‘ve had here you really do stick out, you see many praising you. Slap some confidence onto you through a few more games and we‘d have one scary Seraph to deal with
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Oh and @Asako any thoughts you have to share about how it was to host? Including tinkering with role setup, the time you need to host properly, night actions, and learning more in general? How much did you do(did they let you do) compared to the other two hosts?
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