Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Kolbe]

I don't follow TPN or rather I'm not caught up to date but is this a spoiler that needs to be within spoiler tags?

not really

 

[Samael Morningstar]

So lower level mangas are going to be axed ok so Samurai 8 is going to get axed soon top I think.... So sad i wished what new kishimoto wanted to show us. Poor kishimoto . Hope he doesn't gets axed

 

[Franz]

So lower level mangas are going to be axed ok so Samurai 8 is going to get axed soon top I think.... So sad i wished what new kishimoto wanted to show us. Poor kishimoto . Hope he doesn't gets axed

????

Why ?

 

[4Eyes]

So lower level mangas are going to be axed ok so Samurai 8 is going to get axed soon top I think.... So sad i wished what new kishimoto wanted to show us. Poor kishimoto . Hope he doesn't gets axed

Oh, please don't bring this discussion here again. You don't seem to be aware but people are always heated regarding S8 here and we seem to go nowhere in any of the zillion times we discussed its rankings before. (I say this because I'm one of the users that brought this discussion before and it went nowhere)

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Oh, please don't bring this discussion here again. You don't seem to be aware but people are always heated regarding S8 here and we seem to go nowhere in any of the zillion times we discussed its rankings before. (I say this because I'm one of the users that brought this discussion before and it went nowhere)

Sorry i didn't knew about that but can you please explain why

 

[Ryuusei]

Wut why Sanemi? This is weird lol. I was expecting a duo cover with Tanjirou/Giyuu or Zenitsu

I guess they might be saving Tanjirou and Zenitsu for covers near the ending.

Chapter 160 would be very neat all things considered. Final chapter of the publication year, and the perfect note to conclude this thread on. (That, and the faux awards show I plan to host for fun)

The question is, when is the next batch of series? Because TPN's conclusion would still be two months away, but I really can't see Jump stretching things out that far for the failing newbie trio of Taisei, Beast and Shinobi.

160 chapters seems like the actual thing. Though, 8 more chapters feel too few to conclude everything. It will feel rushed, but then again TPN has been rushing for a while now so what happens in terms of story is unpredictable.

Any news on haikyuu, KnY and bc anime?

We'll probably hear more about KnY S2 in Jump Festa in December. We just got stuff for Haikyuu last week so have to wait more until we get something else. I think I read BC anime would be going on a short break soon, but I might be confusing it. The anime won't make a season break, though, it will just keep going.

My guess is a batch of two in October or November, followed by another batch of two or three in December or January.

We've already gotten 11 new series in this serialization year, and even just two more would make it 13. We haven't gotten that many in one year since 2015. I'm betting that batches will be on the smaller side till 2020.

Because of this, I also have a feeling that even if we do lose all three of the non-Samurai 8 newbies, we're not losing all of them in the same batch.

The batches being fewer really just depends on the success of the published series. Right now, we have three series that are doing poorly and one that is not as bad, but it's not doing hot either. We have yet to see how Yozakura and Mitama will do later on. But I do agree that they might keep a couple of them for a while and axe another couple so they don't leave a huge space in their roster and make another big batch.

Chainsawman volume 4 cover

Aki got his cover. Makima for volume 5?

Samurai 8 volumes 1 and 2 in color, thanks to Nav

I really like these covers. Best boy Hayakawa for one and the composition on S8's volume 2 is really charming. Also, I saw a LQ preview of the new BC cover and it's so spoiler-ish lo.

 

[4Eyes]

Sorry i didn't knew about that but can you please explain why

Some people will bash it because of its rankings and bc it has Kishimoto's name and some people will defend it because we don't know yet how much it will sell and bc it has Kishimoto's name.
We should see how much it sells so we can settle this matter.
(No need to be sorry anyway )

 

[ChocoBar9]

The anime won't reach that point until 2021. The movie will have huge spoilers for anime only viewers.

Why do people assume that the anime is going to 1:1 the manga's pacing in that arc when we've already been shown the final fight in the PVs?

 

[Newkerzy]

With OP the thing at least takes place in the same arc. And it's not just Hawks. With BNHA's movie and where the anime is right now the movie will be 5 arcs ahead and the anime will need at least 2 2-cour seaons to catch up with where the movie is.

I'm pretty sure that Hawks will debut at the beginning of S4, when the interns head out for their offices. they could have Tokoyami arriving at his office, and introduce him as the "missing #3" that wasn't present during Kamino. At the end of the season, we're re-introduced to him once again as the #2 hero. I think that makes for some good directing while padding out some scenes.

 

[animeexpert]

Neverland readers, if it's really ending, how many chapters you think it would need to get a proper ending?
I've put it on hold after Goldy Pond so I don't know how the story is going, but I would like to know if it'll at least get a proper ending (if it's the case)

Damn... now it seems till chapter 162, nothing more. Sad to see the goat end, the manga after goldy pond could be alot better, it's kinda disappointing but the fight with the queen was still really good

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 26, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 26, 2019 ---

Someone posted on Twitter regarding TPN, that it says in the preview: "September is ending and with it, this adventure is almost over too. Thanks for these amazing three years! Keep dreaming, change the world!"

bro...

 

[Ryuusei]

Why do people assume that the anime is going to 1:1 the manga's pacing in that arc when we've already been shown the final fight in the PVs?

Think about it though. There are 3 arcs before the arc in which Hawks shows up. In 10 episodes (the ones that will air through October, November and early December and before the movie's release) we'll probably be midway through or on the late side of Shie Hassaikai arc. If Hawks does show up in S4, it will be way down the line, just like the Big 3 and Overhaul did at the end of S3.

 

[Scruffy8642]

Double Arts came out in a very different time for Jump, where even the lowest selling titles were doing 200k. I think it's pretty reasonable to argue that, had it come out now, it could've easily gotten off the ground without a hitch. Same deal as Mx0, Psyren, Enigma and Magico.

What's interesting about Double Arts was that it managed to get a cover for its 13th chapter which is earlier than everything post 2000 except Ichigo 100%, Toriko, and Sam8 (if you count LCPs since they're basically the same thing), and matched by Bleach. It placed extremely high in the TOC for it's first 10-15 chapters, only entering the bottom 5 five chapters before it ended, which was only 10 after the cover. Yet Nura which started in the same batch and didn't quite perform as well in TOC, but slightly out performed it in first volume sales had to wait until its 91st chapter for a cover.

Really was an extremely successful time for new debuts though. Within 28 issues there were 9 new debuts, with Nura, Double Arts and Bari Haken all in the same round and performing very well, Toriko in the next, and Bakuman, Inumarudashi, and Chagecha immediately following. Given how packed the magazine was then, it kinda seems like they didn't know what to do with so much success and just forced stuff into cancellation simply because it seemed like it had less longevity than its competitiors and they didn't have the space. Probably also the reason Chagecha didn't even get a chance and Sawai gave up on it.

Also, as has been mentioned multiple times recently, Mx0 was not cancelled, but in fact forced to go on longer than the author wanted due to editorial pressure. Psyren also pretty much carried its story to completion aside from the last few chapters which were somewhat rushed.

The anime won't reach that point until 2021. The movie will have huge spoilers for anime only viewers.

Season 4 will probably end with 184-5 which announces the new hero rankings, and is also Hawks' debut. I guess that's still after the movie, but considering how popular he is as a character, it's definitely a smart move to introduce him in the movie. Don't really see an issue.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Think about it though. There are 3 arcs before the arc in which Hawks shows up. In 10 episodes (the ones that will air through October, November and early December and before the movie's release) we'll probably be midway through or on the late side of Shie Hassaikai arc. If Hawks does show up in S4, it will be way down the line, just like the Big 3 and Overhaul did at the end of S3.

Season 4 will probably end with 184-5 which announces the new hero rankings, and is also Hawks' debut. I guess that's still after the movie, but considering how popular he is as a character, it's definitely a smart move to introduce him in the movie. Don't really see an issue.

Or he could just show up earlier like GT did in S2. That fact that he's being showcase this early means that we'll be getting the Pro Hero arc since it would be redundant to give him an "early bird" cameo in the movie and have him do nothing in the season.

 

[vinceled]

I don't follow TPN or rather I'm not caught up to date but is this a spoiler that needs to be within spoiler tags?

Well dunno if what's written on the preview for this week's issue. Well the preview for when TPN gets the big announcement so didn't use spoiler tags for that.
the line says she goes to where Norman is
rest is pretty much speculation

 

[ChocoBar9]

Probably the date for the second season rather than the countdown. I mean they already been saying that this is the climax of the final arc for quite some time.

 

[ShenGao]

I think there's a good chance S4 gets to the chapter that introduces Hawks.

Why do people assume that the anime is going to 1:1 the manga's pacing in that arc when we've already been shown the final fight in the PVs?

I'm pretty sure that Hawks will debut at the beginning of S4, when the interns head out for their offices. they could have Tokoyami arriving at his office, and introduce him as the "missing #3" that wasn't present during Kamino. At the end of the season, we're re-introduced to him once again as the #2 hero. I think that makes for some good directing while padding out some scenes.

Season 4 will probably end with 184-5 which announces the new hero rankings, and is also Hawks' debut. I guess that's still after the movie, but considering how popular he is as a character, it's definitely a smart move to introduce him in the movie. Don't really see an issue.

I'm not talking about the introduction of Hawks. I'm talking about everything that happens after it like Endeavor's fight with High-End resulting in Endeavor's new scar on his face, Deku meeting his OFA predecessors and unlocking Black Whip, the new costume upgrades and power-ups of class 1A, the League of Villains fighting and merging with the Meta Liberation Army to form the Paranormal Liberation Front, and Hawks working as a spy for the government to infiltrate the PLF.
The new movie summary on the movie website mentions Shigaraki and his underlings fighting the pro-heroes, so you can be sure the PLF will be shown.
And all of this won't happen until Season 5, maybe even season 6, so anime only watchers will 100% get bombarded with spoilers.

 

[ChocoBar9]

I'm not talking about the introduction of Hawks. I'm talking about everything that happens after it like Endeavor's fight with High-End resulting in Endeavor's new scar on his face, Deku meeting his OFA predecessors and unlocking Black Whip, the new costume upgrades and power-ups of class 1A, the League of Villains fighting and merging with the Meta Liberation Army to form the Paranormal Liberation Front, and Hawks working as a spy for the government to infiltrate the PLF.
The new movie summary on the movie website mentions Shigaraki and his underlings fighting the pro-heroes, so you can be sure the PLF will be shown.
And all of this won't happen until Season 5, maybe even season 6, so anime only watchers will 100% get bombarded with spoilers.

Its no different from what the recent One Piece movies do all the time in fact the second one introduced Ace before his appearance in the TV anime same with the Marines in Z.

 

[Newkerzy]

I'm not talking about the introduction of Hawks. I'm talking about everything that happens after it like Endeavor's fight with High-End resulting in Endeavor's new scar on his face, Deku meeting his OFA predecessors and unlocking Black Whip, the new costume upgrades and power-ups of class 1A, the League of Villains fighting and merging with the Meta Liberation Army to form the Paranormal Liberation Front, and Hawks working as a spy for the government to infiltrate the PLF.
The new movie summary on the movie website mentions Shigaraki and his underlings fighting the pro-heroes, so you can be sure the PLF will be shown.
And all of this won't happen until Season 5, maybe even season 6, so anime only watchers will 100% get bombarded with spoilers.

I think they could do it like this:

Hawks' role will be very minimal. Same goes for Shiggy and PLF. In fact, I don't think the MLA guys will show up at all. I could see it just being Shiggy, Dabi and Compress. The kids are going to a tropical island, so we won't see the winter costumes.

Going back to Hawks, at best I'm seeing a cameo from him looking all mysterious watching the LoV make their getaway. Also, I don't think we'll see Enji with his new scar, but instead, we'll see Gran Torino leading the operation because he's still chasing Shiggy, remember?

 

[Mammo]

well, if Neveland actually is ending soon I won't mind it, as I feel the manga writing isn't as strong as it was when it started

Tokyo Wonder Boys - 1,731
Stealth Symphony - 7,805
Hinomaruzumou - 43,384
Boku no Hero Academia - 132,449
Yoakemono - 4,991
Mitsubuki Condor - 4,960
Hi-Fi Cluster - 6,701
Judos - 4,657
Sporting Salt - 2,945
Takujou no Ageha - 7,126
E-Robot - 1,179
Gakkyuu Houtei - 35,857
Black Clover - 79,700
Kagamigami - 24,092
Ultra Battle Sattelite - 15,348
Cyborg Roggy - 3,438
Lady Justice - 18,096
Devily Man - 2,695
Sesuji wo Pin! to - 41,464
Best Blue - 3,003
Samon-kun wa Summoner - 28,594
Mononofu - 25,939
Buddy Strike - 3,115
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san - 66,600
Kimetsu no Yaiba - 28,496
Boruto - 361,064
Takuan to Batsu - 14,635
The Promised Neverland - 92,424
Love Rush! - 7,877
Red Sprite - 3,651
Ibitsu no Amalgam - 19,202
Spring Weapon - 10,680
Ole Golazo - 2,720
Demon's Plan - 671
We Never Learn - 49,880
Poro no Ryuugakuki - 15,544
U19 - 5,375
Robot x Laserbeam - 109,413
Dr. Stone - 69,450
Harapeko no Marie - 30,295
Cross Account - 27,442
Shuudan - 16,152
Tomatoypoo no Licopene - 20,990
Full Drive - 11,448
Golem Hearts - 1,329
Act-Age - 23,295
Boze Beats - 6,094
Jujutsu Kaisen - 67,350
Noah's Notes - 12,756
Ziga - 5,039
Momiji no Kisetsu - 3,429
Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo - 543
Tanaka Seiji - 286
Alice to Taiyou - 6,943
Kono-Saki, Dobunuma Chuui
Teenage Renaissance! David - 6,899
Jimoto ga Japan - 1,907

looking at this list again, some of these titles are first month sales and others are first week sales
which makes it even weirder

also, Ryuusei are you original maker of this list? Marecllo something?

I wouldn't be quite so sure about that, actually. Looking at Jump Matome, it seems the series last two chapters haven't landed the impact due to the jank pacing, though it's entirely possible it'll bounce back or these numbers will prove inaccurate to actual result.

For reference Chapter 5's reception:

VS Chapter 3:

>unironic quoting of Jump Matome as some kind of a valid news source

Looks like a love a child between Iguro an Giyuu

isn't this the protagonist of the Jump Next oneshot Gotoge did years ago?

bro, you can't link pics from baidu, it will appear on your side of posting but to us the picture doesn't show
just download it and reupload it from another image host

BTW, this is relating to an old topic, but I feel like mentioning it because I couldn't talk when it happened;

The reason Naruto didn't get the cover of Jump for its final chapter is because, as explained by the "How Jump is Made" graphic novel from 2015, is that Jump was looking towards "THE FUTURE", as it put it. Rather than dwelling on Naruto's legacy, Shueisha felt it was more efficient to look at what comes next, hence Assassination Classroom got the continued push.

source?

One's Justice 2 is in development.

>another arena fighter

give me a rpg, give me a beat em up, give me an open world
give me anything but another one of those

 

[ChocoBar9]

give me a rpg, give me a beat em up, give me an open world
give me anything but another one of those

You have a Fairy Tail RPG game next year. Probably won't be good given the developer but that's something.