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Who will be Sanji's main opponent during the Raid on Onigashima?


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Wonder if that'd be a product of Hancock raping Luffy
Is it rape if Luffy is indifferent?

Does Chi-chi from Dragon Ball raped Goku then? :|
 

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Is it rape if Luffy is indifferent?

Does Chi-chi from Dragon Ball raped Goku then? :|
Nope, because Goku has an actual sex drive. This is mentioned multiple times.
 

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Nope, because Goku has an actual sex drive. This is mentioned multiple times.
When was it mentioned? :|

I don't recall Goku ever showing any affection towards Chi-chi, other than saying he promised to marry her so he will.
 

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Er, I know. I'm not comfortable with joking about stuff like that due to possibility of victims reading this conversation.

In any case, I still can't see Sanji and Viola having done anything together. I think one running joke about Sanji is that he can't score with women successfully.
Nah He scored with ladies before as Viola and Pudding are proof of it. Though he is on journey so can't stay for long to continue until he finishes his adventures.
 

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In baratie sanji shamelessly hits someones date as being their waitress. Quite unprofessional and rather rude for a gentleman.
Being a gentleman doesnt mean allowing someone to walk all over you. Full body was a dick and deserved what he got
 

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:toc You know the Sanji hate is real when you got people defending Fullbody over him
Why you hate Fullbody so much, the guy never did anything to anyone, he is one of the few decent marines in the story but he just got unlucky and ran into Mr. Prince
 

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Remember to stay on topic everyone. The SH's virginity is really not relevant to this thread. Also, the Sanji baiting has become increasingly petty. Be mindful to be respectful to others when discussing the topic. ~ Aizen
 

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sanji is not a gentleman, to be honest
he was only nice to pretty girls, he's indifferent against ugly girls
so basically what most guys do
 

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sanji is not a gentleman, to be honest
he was only nice to pretty girls, he's indifferent against ugly girls
so basically what most guys do
Not really. He still treat them as ladies and don't harm them either. Just because he isn't attractive to him doesn't mean he disrespect them.
 

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Not really. He still treat them as ladies and don't harm them either. Just because he isn't attractive to him doesn't mean he disrespect them.
He peeked in on Robin and Nami while they were naked. That's pretty disrespectful. If he respected them he wouldnt have done that. He cares for them, would lay down his life for them, but his morals around beautiful women leaves much to be desired.

But every character has a weird quirk. Him being a pervert is his. In fine with it... its shounen, it happens. He's not gross about it. I'd rather him have a funny/ odd gimmick than none at all. It would make his character bland.
 

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He peeked in on Robin and Nami while they were naked. That's pretty disrespectful. If he respected them he wouldnt have done that. He cares for them, would lay down his life for them, but his morals around beautiful women leaves much to be desired.

But every character has a weird quirk. Him being a pervert is his. In fine with it... its shounen, it happens. He's not gross about it. I'd rather him have a funny/ odd gimmick than none at all. It would make his character bland.
You do realize Nami and Robin let bunch of strangers stare their bodies in open bath. They have no shame at this point and don't mind much. Everyone in the crew not perfect on morals which makes it funny not serious issue.
 

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You do realize Nami and Robin let bunch of strangers stare their bodies in open bath. They have no shame at this point and don't mind much. Everyone in the crew not perfect on morals which makes it funny not serious issue.
You do realize Nami and Robin let bunch of strangers stare their bodies in open bath. They have no shame at this point and don't mind much. Everyone in the crew not perfect on morals which makes it funny not serious issue.
It's both a serious issue that can be considered comical. It doesnt have to be 1 or the other.

You know, you dont always have to defend Sanji. Even his bad qualities
 

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It's both a serious issue that can be considered comical. It doesnt have to be 1 or the other.

You know, you dont always have to defend Sanji. Even his bad qualities
Those aren't bad though. Your complaining on something he debut with since day one. Just because he is perverse doesn't make him bad person. He is most innocent among all if you seen others in other anime. Sanji still doesn't try to do anything bad to a woman.

Not really as it shown comical, not deep serious situation. Oda been like this with comedy for a long time. Why you have issue with it now?
 

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Those aren't bad though. Your complaining on something he debut with since day one. Just because he is perverse doesn't make him bad person. He is most innocent among all if you seen others in other anime. Sanji still doesn't try to do anything bad to a woman.

Not really as it shown comical, not deep serious situation. Oda been like this with comedy for a long time. Why you have issue with it now?
I'm not complaining. I'm just calling it what it is. Your the one that can't accept that its inappropriate to some that Sanji is as perverted as he is.

I dont have an issue with it and calling his actions wrong is not me having an issue with it. I'm stating it because it is a fact
 

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You do realize Nami and Robin let bunch of strangers stare their bodies in open bath. They have no shame at this point and don't mind much. Everyone in the crew not perfect on morals which makes it funny not serious issue.
Smh
Nami and robin are in public co-shared bath house, they are in consent to show their bodies
Peeking is a violation to their privacy, they dont give consent to sanji
 

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He peeked in on Robin and Nami while they were naked. That's pretty disrespectful. If he respected them he wouldnt have done that. He cares for them, would lay down his life for them, but his morals around beautiful women leaves much to be desired.

But every character has a weird quirk. Him being a pervert is his. In fine with it... its shounen, it happens. He's not gross about it. I'd rather him have a funny/ odd gimmick than none at all. It would make his character bland.
Viola can back this up, she was creeped out by what she saw when she peeked into Sanji's mind. Personally, Sanji's pervertedness kinda creeps me out, but his other character traits outweigh the negative/s.
 

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I'm not complaining. I'm just calling it what it is. Your the one that can't accept that its inappropriate to some that Sanji is as perverted as he is.

I dont have an issue with it and calling his actions wrong is not me having an issue with it. I'm stating it because it is a fact
I can accept it, but it was never meant as serious thing about it. He debut as that, so basically disliking what been his character. Not saying you have hate on it. Just that this isn't something to complain on since it been like this since debut. He isn't badly perverse unlike other characters in OP to begin with.
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Smh
Nami and robin are in public co-shared bath house, they are in consent to show their bodies
Peeking is a violation to their privacy, they dont give consent to sanji
To strangers they never met before though and all men were staring heavily at them, so again not really good logic for those 2.
 

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I can accept it, but it was never meant as serious thing about it. He debut as that, so basically disliking what been his character. Not saying you have hate on it. Just that this isn't something to complain on since it been like this since debut. He isn't badly perverse unlike other characters in OP to begin with.
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To strangers they never met before though and all men were staring heavily at them, so again not really good logic for those 2.
It doesnt matter that it was never meant to be a serious thing. It is a serious thing. It's just used for comedic relief.

As to your second point. I'm really worried you dont, as a human being, understand what consent actually means. That's scary since you are obviously old enough to discuss other serious topics. Learn what consent is because once you do, you will realize Nami and Robin didnt CONSENT to being spied on by Sanji.

I dont think Sanji being a perv hurts his character in anyway. Nami and Robin clearly feel like they can handle his level of craziness. But we you say stuff like, they were in a public bath so consent is implied.... that's dangerous thinking. You are wrong in this.
 

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Sanji's both a gentleman and a perv. I wish his perversions wasn't as exaggerated as much as it was after the time skip, but there's not much we can do about it.

At least Whole Cake toned it down for a spell and had him act like a gentleman the majority of the arc.

And yes, while it was played up as a joke and a coop bath, the women in the bath didn't consent to being ogled by an invisible man.

Anyway, I recently got to thinking that, like Shishi Sonson, Diable Jambe might be folded into Ryou as a category. Obviously it's not complete in its current form, but it seems close to the principles of the technique. Plus, Oda's never been straight forward whenever people would ask him about the move, so I think he easily could without much trouble.
 
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