Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[MangAniMY]

For reference, here's the exact printing sales for the Top 30:

1 One Piece 67 - 4.05M
2 SnK 13 - 2.72M
3 Slam Dunk 21 - 2.5M
4 Chibi Maruko-chan 7 - 2.38M
5 NANA 14 - 2.3M
6 Be-Bop-Highschool - 2.27M
7 Dr. Slump 6 - 2.2M
8 Dragon Ball 35 - 2.2M
9 Detective Conan 17 - 2M
10 Crayon Shin-chan 7 - 1.9M
11 Vagabond 15 - 1.83M
12 Yuu☆Yuu☆Hakusho 15 - 1.7M
13 Ike! Ina-chuu Takkyuubu 9 - 1.7M
14 Naruto 31 - 1.62M
15 Kinnikuman 17 - 1.6M
16 Hunter x Hunter 13 - 1.6M
17 Fullmetal Alchemist 27 - 1.52M
18 Ranma 1/2 13 - 1.5M
19 H2 17 - 1.5M
20 Rurouni Kenshin 17 - 1.33M
21 Bleach 25 - 1.33M
22 Sailor Moon 3 - 1.32M
23 Shiratori Reiko de Gozaimasu 1- 1.27M
24 Death Note 7 - 1.27M
25 Black Jack ni Yoroshiku 5 - 1.25M
26 Kaze Densetsu 8 - 1.22M
27 Silver Spoon 11 - 1.2M
28 Doraemon 19- 1.2M
29 Hana yori Dango 31- 1.2M
30 Nodame Cantabile 20- 1.17M

don't omit the unknown volume when the actual initial print data is available

 

[sakuratt91]

Does it say "Worldwide numbers"?

大ヒット『鬼滅の刃』2500万部突破へ…2ヶ月弱で累計倍に　新刊18巻は初の初版100万部超え

ニュース｜　12月4日に発売される人気漫画『鬼滅の刃』（集英社）のコミックス18巻の初版発行部数がシリーズ初の100万部になることが決定し、累計発行部数が2500万部（電子版含む）を突破することが27日、集英社から発表された。なお、9月29日時点の累計発行部数は1200万部だったため、この2ヶ月弱で累計部数が2倍以上に跳ね上がる驚異的なペースで売り伸ばしている。　コミックス1巻が2016年6月に発売された同作は、今年4月から9月までテレビアニメが放送され、来年には続編となる劇場版の公開、舞台公演も控えている人気作。18年6月にテレビアニメ化されることが発表された際の累計発行部数は11巻ま...

www.oricon.co.jp

 

[Tamil]

In case people haven't seen this, Jump PUSH campaign for Jigokuraku!

特製リバーシブルブックカバープレゼント!! - 少年ジャンプ＋

『地獄楽』コミックス購入者限定!!特製リバーシブルブックカバープレゼント!!

www.shonenjump.com

I hope it pays off. Jigokuraku deserves to be a 1M seller IMO . The sales are improving with each volume so that's nice. I wish it gets a boost on the same level as Kimetsu whenever the anime arrives.

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No. 20 millions was also for serie.

Btw :

大ヒット『鬼滅の刃』2500万部突破へ…2ヶ月弱で累計倍に　新刊18巻は初の初版100万部超え (2019年11月27日) - エキサイトニュース

12月4日に発売される人気漫画『鬼滅の刃』（集英社）のコミックス18巻の初版発行部数がシリーズ初の100万部になることが決定し、累計発行部数が2500万部（電子版含む）を突破することが27日、集英社か...

www.excite.co.jp

12 000 000 numbers (29/09) was Worldwide numbers. So, normaly 25 000 000 numbers include also worlwide numbers.

That makes a lot more sense now lol.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I hope it pays off. Jigokuraku deserves to be a 1M seller IMO . The sales are improving with each volume so that's nice. I wish it gets a boost on the same level as Kimetsu whenever the anime arrives.

If it was so easy like that Yaiba would be just another case...

 

[Tamil]

Nah, Toei doesn't work on violent series for quite sometime, I don't even remember the last time they worked on such thing. And the last new adaptation they pick was like in 5 years ago, since then they've been doing original series or working on anime that are already a staple to them like One Piece, Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon and so on. In these days some of those aren't even animated by them, with Toei Animation only being on the production side like with Saintia Sho which was animated by Saintia Sho (which had only Toei on the committee btw) and also the new Digimon movie, which is animated by Yumeta Company with Toei Animation also on the production, but here since it's a movie, Toei (the actual one, not animation) and other companies are probably on production and committee as well.

But good point overall tho. People forget that tons of anime are long-running series outside of the seasonal ones (and even some on the seasonal are). Like you say, most of those are kids anime so many are ignored even though the production of those anime still exists. Aikatsu, Precure, Pripara, Yokai Watch, Gegege no Kitaro, Pokémon and many more out there are like this.

Lol people really forget they did Toriko. I dont blame them b/c I want to forget it too. Its weird that in general Toei has a perception of doing kiddy titles (which is true to an extent) but they've adapted some of the more violent titles in WSJ (Toriko, Hokuto no Ken, Kinnikuman, etc.).

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If it was so easy like that Yaiba would be just another case...

Never said it was going to be easy

 

[Rain Spectre]

Lol people really forget they did Toriko. I dont blame them b/c I want to forget it too. Its weird that in general Toei has a perception of doing kiddy titles (which is true) but they've adapted some of the more violent titles in WSJ (Toriko, Hokuto no Ken, Kinnikuman, etc.).

North Star was still pretty violent, they just colored all the blood bright white except for smaller wounds. Though values and broadcast standards have changed a lot since the mid 80s.

Anyway, as people have said, Jump anime are only adapted seasonally simply because it's the more economical method in the 2010s. Per Nakano, Shueisha wasn't even involved with the decision to make Black Clover ongoing, Pierrot came to them with the offer.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

North Star was still pretty violent, they just colored all the blood bright white except for smaller wounds. Though values and broadcast standards have changed a lot since the mid 80s.

Anyway, as people have said, Jump anime are only adapted seasonally simply because it's the more economical method in the 2010s. Per Nakano, Shueisha wasn't even involved with the decision to make Black Clover ongoing, Pierrot came to them with the offer.

lol Nakano said literally the opposite:

"On the other hand, Boruto and Black Clover are handled by Pierrot. How did those come about?

Nakano: Well, Boruto is a continuation of Naruto. Naruto was a series that we all had a lot of hope for twenty years ago. We had a lot of offers from various companies. The editor at the time deliberated on it and eventually chose Pierrot and TV Tokyo because they had an evening slot and could reach out to kids.

Black Clover was a similar case. It's a series along the lines of our classic battle manga. If we picked a late night time slot for it, it would restrict the audience for it. We also wanted it to air for over a year. "

Source: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...-jump-editor-in-chief-hiroyuki-nakano/.143096

 

[Tamil]

Technically you can count DiU/Vento Aureo as long running animes. I would consider anything running past 2 cour to be long running.

 

[pamuchi]

Speaking of Jojos, did it never get an initial 1M print? Any of them?

 

[perroloco]

Speaking of Jojos, did it never get an initial 1M print? Any of them?

Speaking of Jojos, did it never get an initial 1M print? Any of them?

Jojo's wasn't really that close to being a million seller, check this data from 2006.

https://www.comipress.com/article/2006/06/01/196.html

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

63 ongoing

47,000,000

But the anime gave it a huge boost in sales, reaching 100'000,000 in sales with 119 volumes published. (Average of 840,000 per volume vs 746,000 before back in 2006)

(check out minute 30:08)


Other interesting omission is Golgo 13, I always thought it must have been a million seller at some point.

Captain Tsubasa and Yugioh were titles that sold in average more than a million per volume, so I assumed they had had some volumes reach a printing of 1 million, but I guess not.

As for surprises on the list: I didn't expect Video Girl Ai and Saint Seiya to be on the list, I can definetly understand what happened with SS, it reached 1 million during the 12 Houses arc (Around volumes 6-14 IIRC) and then steadily declined until Hades arc (someone posted it sold 660k at volume 19 which is more or less the start of Hades arc) and then it declined even more because its anime had ended, so it's not like it continuously reached a million in sales...
As for Video Girl, I had always though the best selling romcom manga in Jump was Kimagure Orange Road (Reportedly it sold 18'000,000 with its 18 volume run and it had a long anime like 52 episodes IIRC, while Video Girl Ai had only 6 OVAs, so I just assumed KOR was bigger than VGA)..

Also I had forgotten how popular GTO was for Magazine, I think it's it biggest seller (Per volume)

 

[mangalover101]

Kanao looks super cute. I knew she would be the protag in this cover.

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I think it's across Japan? I never understood why some sources put it as Japan or worldwide. Also, KnY is ahead by 1M. Maybe bnha numbers will be updated by the time its newest volume releases.

MHA should only be Japan. I remember a press release somewhere saying it has sold a million already in America plus it should have an additional 2-3 million in France alone...

 

[MangAniMY]

Jojo's wasn't really that close to being a million seller, check this data from 2006.

https://www.comipress.com/article/2006/06/01/196.html

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

63 ongoing

47,000,000

But the anime gave it a huge boost in sales, reaching 100'000,000 in sales with 119 volumes published. (Average of 840,000 per volume vs 746,000 before back in 2006)


(check out minute 30:08)


Other interesting omission is Golgo 13, I always thought it must have been a million seller at some point.

Captain Tsubasa and Yugioh were titles that sold in average more than a million per volume, so I assumed they had had some volumes reach a printing of 1 million, but I guess not.

As for surprises on the list: I didn't expect Video Girl Ai and Saint Seiya to be on the list, I can definetly understand what happened with SS, it reached 1 million during the 12 Houses arc (Around volumes 6-14 IIRC) and then steadily declined until Hades arc (someone posted it sold 660k at volume 19 which is more or less the start of Hades arc) and then it declined even more because its anime had ended, so it's not like it continuously reached a million in sales...
As for Video Girl, I had always though the best selling romcom manga in Jump was Kimagure Orange Road (Reportedly it sold 18'000,000 with its 18 volume run and it had a long anime like 52 episodes IIRC, while Video Girl Ai had only 6 OVAs, so I just assumed KOR was bigger than VGA)..

Also I had forgotten how popular GTO was for Magazine, I think it's it biggest seller (Per volume)

captain tsubasa should actually be in the list

if you count the series for WSJ there are only 20, its should be 21, (well 22 now)

also

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　１０月４日に発売されるコミック「黒子のバスケ」２４巻と「暗殺教室」６巻が、初版発行部数１００万部を突破する。集英社「週刊少年ジャンプ」４５年の歴史の中で、初回...

www.nikkansports.com

also

 

[Tamil]

Spoiler: Complete List

- 21 Series, Weekly Shounen Jump: One Piece, Slam Dunk, Dr. Slump, Dragon Ball, Yuu Yuu Hakushou, Naruto, Kinnikuman, Hunter x Hunter, Rurouni Kenshin, Bleach, Death Note, Prince of Tennis, Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken, Bastard!!, Hokuto no Ken, Saint Seiya, Video Girl Ai, Rokudenashi Blues, Kuroko no Basket, Assassination Classroom.
- 5 Series, Weekly Shounen Sunday: Detective Conan, Ranma 1/2, H2, Inuyasha, Silver Spoon
- 3 Series, Weekly Shounen Magazine: The Kindaichi Case Files, Bukkomi no Taku, Great Teacher Onizuka
- 3 Series, Weekly Young Magazine: Be Bop Highschool, Ping Pong Club, Initial D
- 3 Series, Weekly Morning: Vagabond, Say Hello to Black Jack, The Silent Service
- 2 Series, Bessatsu Margaret: Kimi ni Todoke, Hot Road
- 2 Series, Nakayoshi: Sailor Moon, Candy Candy
- 2 Series, Monthly Shounen GanGan: Fullmetal Alchemist, Magical Circle Guru Guru
- 1 Series, Ribbon: Chibi Maruko-chan
- 1 Series, Cookie: Nana
- 1 Series, Shounen Big Comic: Miyuki
- 1 Series, Manga Action: Crayon Shin-chan
- 1 Series, mimi: Shiratori Reiko de Gozaimasu!
- 1 Series, CoroCoro Comic: Doraemon
- 1 Series, Margaret: Hana Yori Dango
- 1 Series, kiss: Nodame Cantabile
- 1 Series, Young Jump: Real
- 1 Series, Bessatsu Shounen Magazine: Shingeki no Kyojin
- 1 Series, Morning Two: Saint Young Men
- 1 Series, Monthly Shounen Magazine: Dear Boys
- 1 Series, Big Comic Original: Pluto
- 1 Series, Jump SQ: Ao no Exorcist
- 1 Series, Big Comic Spirits: Oishinbo
- 1 Series, Monthly Shounen Ace: Neon Genesis Evangelion
- 1 Series, Weekly Shounen Champion: Dokaben: Pro Yakyuu-Hen

Source: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5997227312

SD/REAL/Vagabond all have a million printing and all series are serialized in different magazines. Inoue is truly a GOAT.

 

[Rain Spectre]

SD/REAL/Vagabond all have a million printing and all series are serialized in different magazines. Inoue is such a GOAT.

Legit argument I think can be made for Inoue as the greatest mangaka to have lived. At least in terms of talent.

 

[Ryuusei]

captain tsubasa should actually be in the list

if you count the series for WSJ there are only 20, its should be 21, (well 22 now)

also

é»åã®ãã¹ã±ãæ殺æ室ãåç100ä¸é¨ - ç´°ããããæå ± - è¸è½ãã¥ã¼ã¹ : nikkansports.com

　１０月４日に発売されるコミック「黒子のバスケ」２４巻と「暗殺教室」６巻が、初版発行部数１００万部を突破する。集英社「週刊少年ジャンプ」４５年の歴史の中で、初回...

www.nikkansports.com

also

I completely missed it, my bad.

 

[TheEroSennin]

Can someone link me that french website, it had sales numbers for almost every series

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Hm, Weekly Shonen Jump-only app? Or an app for literally everything from Shueisha in the 'Jump' sector?

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Maybe it's an app with every single jump manga to exist. Well the manga that lasted

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Black clover more violent than jjk?... are we reading the same manga?, haahhahaa

Idk. Its toned down a lot in the past few years but in BC's ealier chapters it was pretty bloody

Wait a minute...Saint Seiya was a million seller, and yet Jump still had it canceled against Kuramada's will? The hell was up with the standards of the Golden Age?

Wait Saint Seiya was cancelled?

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 27, 2019 ---

Jojo's wasn't really that close to being a million seller, check this data from 2006.

https://www.comipress.com/article/2006/06/01/196.html

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

63 ongoing

47,000,000

But the anime gave it a huge boost in sales, reaching 100'000,000 in sales with 119 volumes published. (Average of 840,000 per volume vs 746,000 before back in 2006)


(check out minute 30:08)


Other interesting omission is Golgo 13, I always thought it must have been a million seller at some point.

Captain Tsubasa and Yugioh were titles that sold in average more than a million per volume, so I assumed they had had some volumes reach a printing of 1 million, but I guess not.

As for surprises on the list: I didn't expect Video Girl Ai and Saint Seiya to be on the list, I can definetly understand what happened with SS, it reached 1 million during the 12 Houses arc (Around volumes 6-14 IIRC) and then steadily declined until Hades arc (someone posted it sold 660k at volume 19 which is more or less the start of Hades arc) and then it declined even more because its anime had ended, so it's not like it continuously reached a million in sales...
As for Video Girl, I had always though the best selling romcom manga in Jump was Kimagure Orange Road (Reportedly it sold 18'000,000 with its 18 volume run and it had a long anime like 52 episodes IIRC, while Video Girl Ai had only 6 OVAs, so I just assumed KOR was bigger than VGA)..

Also I had forgotten how popular GTO was for Magazine, I think it's it biggest seller (Per volume)

???????????? Shaman king over 53million wtf

 

[101nemesis]

Death Note's initial prints probably dont come close to what the actual per volume sales would've been.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but I definitely thought Prince of Tennis had a higher initial print. At least 1.2-1.3 million.

 

[revo68]

Oricon Rankings 18/11 - 24/11

80292 *957096 Kimetsu no Yaiba #08
76896 *949426 Kimetsu no Yaiba #07
73769 *941569 Kimetsu no Yaiba #09
72420 *992589 Kimetsu no Yaiba #01
69536 *961656 Kimetsu no Yaiba #02
65024 *936415 Kimetsu no Yaiba #03
64800 *991246 Kimetsu no Yaiba #17
64083 *916762 Kimetsu no Yaiba #06
63422 *923274 Kimetsu no Yaiba #10
62674 *917789 Kimetsu no Yaiba #04
62231 *912073 Kimetsu no Yaiba #11
61959 *914498 Kimetsu no Yaiba #05
61197 *904329 Kimetsu no Yaiba #12
59127 *899376 Kimetsu no Yaiba #13
59015 *880237 Kimetsu no Yaiba #14
58482 *935848 Kimetsu no Yaiba #16
58394 *891866 Kimetsu no Yaiba #15
24176 *406777 Haikyuu!! #40
20560 *405167 Kimetsu no Yaiba Fanbook
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17184 1897330 One Piece #94
11798 *348273 SPY×FAMILY #02

 

[pamuchi]

Oricon Rankings 18/11 - 24/11

80292 *957096 鬼8
76896 *949426 鬼7
73769 *941569 鬼9
72420 *992589 鬼1
69536 *961656 鬼2
65024 *936415 鬼3
64800 *991246 鬼
64083 *916762 鬼6
63422 *923274 鬼10
62674 *917789 鬼4
62231 *912073 鬼11
61959 *914498 鬼5
61197 *904329 鬼12
59127 *899376 鬼13
59015 *880237 鬼14
58482 *935848 鬼16
58394 *891866 鬼15
24176 *406777 ハ
20560 *405167 鬼
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17184 1897330 Ｏ
11798 *348273 Ｓ

Next week volume 1 and 17 definitely will cross the 1M mark and maybe volume 2 too