Discussion Zoro and Sanji

[afromarco005]

Is that panel supposed to help your case? Because it is showing them pushing it, not trying to cut it.
Show me where he tries all sorts of named techniques or ultimate moves to cut it. Where did he say that he cant cut it?
There is no single instance which shows him trying so there is no proof that he cant.
On the other hand, there is proof that he can. Jeet and Abdullah have cut through Black Knight whose strings were used to form the Birdcage.
Now, unless you want to claim that Jeet and Abdullah are better at cutting than Zoro your case cant stand because Zoro is superior to them and you dont have a single proof that he tried cutting and failed.
And with that, this discussion ends.

You shouldnt sleep on Jeet and particulary Abdullah these guys are beasts... I wouldn't be surprised if one of these master swordsmen was Zoro's opponent next arc.

About the birdcage I always find those arguments to be stupid it was clearly a plot device to keep a few strong characters away from the doffy fight cause if we are honest here fujitora should have just shattered the birdcage with minimal effort.

we saw evidence that DD<<Admiral with the clash between doffy and aokiji where the former almost lost his life to a casual attack from the latter.

Anyways this sanji vs zoro debate is only still going because of Sanji's hardcore fans who refuse to admit that Zoro is clearly stronger than the cook however small/big the gap may be. Have fun discussing guys

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Zoro is stronger than sanji.
He gets more spotlight and defeats stronger enemy.

 

[ThatOtherGuy]

Zoro is stronger than sanji.
He gets more spotlight and defeats stronger enemy.

Zoro also looks cooler than Sanji when wearing shades

Let's make a list of all the ways Zoro is stronger, better and cooler than Sanji.

 

[ThatOtherGuy]

Yikes, the headcannons are contagious as Sanji always been better of the pair in overall. Wano is showcasing that by fight history and how Base Sanji blitz without trying Enma Zoro coming at him effortlessly .

Ok, so I understand when you use the word headcanon with people with whom you disagree if some details are factual or made up, but you can't call my general opinion on a character headcanon man, that's not how you use that word.

 

[King Moe]

Ok, so I understand when you use the word headcanon with people with whom you disagree if some details are factual or made up, but you can't call my general opinion on a character headcanon man, that's not how you use that word.

Sounds more like you guys on your end as I notice how much your debating against the actually facts when stated about Zoro's stances on Luffy and Sanji which are true. I only say Headcannon not on opinion, but when you try to force it on others that's it's 'canon' when it's not.

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lol sanji Fans thinking zoro isn’t stronger is really cute

Fight history says otherwise. Can't see guy same way ever since Kamazou and Gyukimaro fights. As well his fights with Hawkins and Kyoshiro make him look weak compare to them. Sanji has fought great with Drake while beating PO. Facts don't lie.

Plus it's normal for rivals to one up each other back and forth. Look at Naruto and Sasuke for one as they are like that.

 

[LaGOAT]

Sounds more like you guys on your end as I notice how much your debating against the actually facts when stated about Zoro's stances on Luffy and Sanji which are true. I only say Headcannon not on opinion, but when you try to force it on others that's it's 'canon' when it's not.

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Fight history says otherwise. Can't see guy same way ever since Kamazou and Gyukimaro fights. As well his fights with Hawkins and Kyoshiro make him look weak compare to them. Sanji has fought great with Drake while beating PO. Facts don't lie.

Plus it's normal for rivals to one up each other back and forth. Look at Naruto and Sasuke for one as they are like that.

Sounds more like you guys on your end as I notice how much your debating against the actually facts when stated about Zoro's stances on Luffy and Sanji which are true. I only say Headcannon not on opinion, but when you try to force it on others that's it's 'canon' when it's not.

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Fight history says otherwise. Can't see guy same way ever since Kamazou and Gyukimaro fights. As well his fights with Hawkins and Kyoshiro make him look weak compare to them. Sanji has fought great with Drake while beating PO. Facts don't lie.

Plus it's normal for rivals to one up each other back and forth. Look at Naruto and Sasuke for one as they are like that.

Don’t worry at the end of this arc ur gonna see a massive difference just like in the past

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Don’t worry at the end of this arc ur gonna see a massive difference just like in the past

... Not like he would care. Sanji just "fought" Drake. Zoro did the same against Hawkins. + He defeated Killer. I dont think Sanji has defeated a Supernova yet.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Zoro has stronger haki,
While Sanji...uh, he has stronger heart, i guess

 

[Pirate Queen]

Zoro has stronger haki,
While Sanji...uh, he has stronger heart, i guess

And the strength of your heart always beats strength in this manga, so........................

 

[Sachsenhesse]

And the strength of your heart always beats strength in this manga, so........................

Like this:

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[Pirate Queen]

Like this:

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And were was the heart that fight? That's why Luffy lost... there was no emotion, no heart.

Sanji with enough heart can Oneshot Mihawk.... if he had enough heart


Psst, I'm joking

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[hokageji]

Psst, I'm joking

its funnier that you had to specifically mention it.. The heart comment was so obviously a joke...

Kinda embaraassing to ask but what does that mean?

 

[nik87]

Kinda embaraassing to ask but what does that mean?

Hard to put it into words.
Sanjino, with enough heart, one-shotting Mihawk, my reaction to that...

 

[hokageji]

Sanjino with enough heart will beat anyone... dont forget, he was supposed to be named naruto.

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Hard to put it into words.

was able to find it now... its apparently uused by trolls as spam.... makes sense...

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

And the strength of your heart always beats strength in this manga, so........................

 

[hokageji]

Lexusflame's line is inline with her DP character, so.... heart wins!

 

[Fox666]

And were was the heart that fight? That's why Luffy lost... there was no emotion, no heart.

Sanji with enough heart can Oneshot Mihawk.... if he had enough heart


Psst, I'm joking

For the movies that is actually true

 

[Luke Beifong]

The thing that makes Zoro “stronger” than Sanji is his swords. Beginning a Swordsman makes you deadlier than beginning a “kicksman”. Ad this their personality, Zoro beginning more badass and always fight the “strong” opponent and that’s it, Zoro is stronger. For me the two of them are “equals”, Zoro is stronger, Sanji is smarter. Simple like that

 

[ThatOtherGuy]

The thing that makes Zoro “stronger” than Sanji is his swords. Beginning a Swordsman makes you deadlier than beginning a “kicksman”. Ad this their personality, Zoro beginning more badass and always fight the “strong” opponent and that’s it, Zoro is stronger. For me the two of them are “equals”, Zoro is stronger, Sanji is smarter. Simple like that

Sanji is definitely smarter than Zoro. He's also better at stealth, and better at showing kindness.

 

[Fox666]

Sanji is clearly the fast type, perhaps you could compare Zoro and Sanji with Boundman and Snakesman. While Sanji got brains, Zoro has some super-Human durability.