Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

[M3J]

I wanna see a great Sanji fight this arc, hopefully against a top tier martial artist.

 

[nik87]

I swear you and Nik are the same person.

How dare you?!

 

[Luke Beifong]

I wanna see a great Sanji fight this arc, hopefully against a top tier martial artist.

Man, if you ask me this some years ago, I’m absolutely answer you “Sanji gonna fight a YC for sure!” Now, I’m really happy if we see him fighting a real fight against anyone with minimum relevancy... That’s pretty sad

How dare you?!

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

 

[M3J]

I think he may fight a YC since Luffy is likely going to fight Kaidou. The Monster trio may get help though, given the opponents seem to be quite tough.

 

[jaymizzo]

How dare you?!

Oda tends to make Sanji (Moe) and Zoro (Nik) equals more...

Spoiler: You missed a good opportunity for

@M3J i think its a given that Zoro and Sanji will take on someone who is YC level but they still have some unfinished business with their earlier opponents.

Sanji still has his score to settle with xDrake and Page1 and Zoro with Orochi and Kyoshiro. They could end up fighting King together.

 

[nik87]

If Queen doesnt use swords he is perfect opponent for Sanjino. RS can ignore Queen's plaque and Sanjino can knock himself out on Queen and demonstrate entire menu of kicks...
I dont see him in King fight tho, we dont want Sanji with peg leg.

 

[Luke Beifong]

If Queen doesnt use swords he is perfect opponent for Sanjino. RS can ignore Queen's plaque and Sanjino can knock himself out on Queen and demonstrate entire menu of kicks...
I dont see him in King fight tho, we dont want Sanji with peg leg.

kkkkkkk All I want is a fight between Sanji and King! Just imagine King is his hybrid form, flying in flames and in his black uniform and he suddenly receives a kick from a flying, burning leg in a Black suit? Man, if Oda do this, I swear I will go all the way from Brazil to Japan just to give him a big hug kkkkkkkkk That’s a fight I want more than Luffy VS Kaido for sure! I know it’s very unlikely to happen, but I reeeeeeeeealy want this!

 

[M3J]

Oda tends to make Sanji (Moe) and Zoro (Nik) equals more...

Spoiler: You missed a good opportunity for

@M3J i think its a given that Zoro and Sanji will take on someone who is YC level but they still have some unfinished business with their earlier opponents.

Sanji still has his score to settle with xDrake and Page1 and Zoro with Orochi and Kyoshiro. They could end up fighting King together.

Perhaps could happen, but maybe Drake won't be Sanji's, while Zoro will be able to beat Orochi and Kyoshiro. I wouldn't mind seeing Sanji and Zoro fight together though, that'd be sugoi

 

[King Moe]

I swear you and Nik are the same person. There is a lot more people who pirate OP than who buy it... In this whole community, theres a handful of people who have OP merch.

On Reddit - people go there for spoilers... for a pirated comic... and they are driving OP sales.

Whoa, since being a fulltime troll is not banworthy, I think its high time I join you and Nik. You guys are professionals at moving the goal post.

Edit: Just saw how this discussion originated... @King Moe youre good so long as someone bites lol

Nah, we not. I just saying facts while Nik goes far to use headcannons to the extremes. Though like Brandish said let's stay on topic. Agree to Disagree, but not troll cause we can't agree same thing.

Now I expect Sanji to take on Queen or King given how it's leading to in the long run.

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Man, if you ask me this some years ago, I’m absolutely answer you “Sanji gonna fight a YC for sure!” Now, I’m really happy if we see him fighting a real fight against anyone with minimum relevancy... That’s pretty sad




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He beat YV. Why would he fight anyone lower? You need to get over thinking Sanji won't be fighting top tiers as Oda is setting him up for it.

 

[HereNThere]

It's really hard to say who'll fight who in this arc. Too many top tiers on both sides with relevant plot significance.

Previous patterns dictate that Zoro would fight King and Sanji would fight Queen, but it's unlikely to flow like that.

If Kyoshiro is the strongest swordsman in Wano, then he is most certainly Zoro's opponent. For a country of Samurai and swordsmen, it's suspicious that we haven't heard anything about the country's greatest swordsman. And if things progress to a Supernova vs Yonkou fight, he'd obviously take part since the majority of them are present and intent on taking down Kaido.

Which could leave King for Sanji potentially. Reasons for this match up include them being the only relevant flyers on their crew and them sharing an elemental trait. Not much else is known about King, so that's all we have to go on.

Queen is also still an option. Reasons for this include them both being the Left Hand man on the crew and both sharing the same sentiment about beautiful women after hearing about Hiyori's apparent death. I could see an Absolam vs Sanji situation happening where they unknowingly bond over a woman.

After them, we have the Numbers, but we don't know what they're about yet.

We have some Big Mom folks running around, but the only relevant ones are Pero and Smoothie, the former is probably going to be for Carrot while the latter is a lady.

CP0 are also hanging about, so we may get a fight with one of them as well.

 

[King Moe]

It's really hard to say who'll fight who in this arc. Too many top tiers on both sides with relevant plot significance.

Previous patterns dictate that Zoro would fight King and Sanji would fight Queen, but it's unlikely to flow like that.

If Kyoshiro is the strongest swordsman in Wano, then he is most certainly Zoro's opponent. For a country of Samurai and swordsmen, it's suspicious that we haven't heard anything about the country's greatest swordsman. And if things progress to a Supernova vs Yonkou fight, he'd obviously take part since the majority of them are present and intent on taking down Kaido.

Which could leave King for Sanji potentially. Reasons for this match up include them being the only relevant flyers on their crew and them sharing an elemental trait. Not much else is known about King, so that's all we have to go on.

Queen is also still an option. Reasons for this include them both being the Left Hand man on the crew and both sharing the same sentiment about beautiful women after hearing about Hiyori's apparent death. I could see an Absolam vs Sanji situation happening where they unknowingly bond over a woman.

After them, we have the Numbers, but we don't know what they're about yet.

We have some Big Mom folks running around, but the only relevant ones are Pero and Smoothie, the former is probably going to be for Carrot while the latter is a lady.

CP0 are also hanging about, so we may get a fight with one of them as well.

Actually looking writing angles, Oda is having Zoro go face Orochi or Kyoshiro (If he isn't double-agent) while Sanji is facing Queen or King.

Oda already has Sanji be target that YCs are aware of his existence as they send T6H who are under YC order. Once they heard they haven't got him yet and PO got defeated, Queen or King will come do the job themselves which looks to play that way.

Zoro will face possibly more traditional Samurai enemy given how deep he being push to be involve on Orochi side. It looks he wants his final opponent to be there as he isn't known at all or care about from YCs except for Sanji, so at this point might be less likely he face YC and someone else will fave the other Sanji isn't facing like Kidd or Law so to push how strong they have gotten too.

 

[nik87]

@eefrit No reason why Zoro cant take on both Kyoshiro and King.

 

[King Moe]

@eefrit No reason why Zoro cant take on both Kyoshiro and King.

He isn't Luffy. He get destroyed facing Kyoshrio, Orochi, and then King. Unless Kyoshiro is double-agent so they don't have to fight, but even then Orochi isn't fodder than he looks as how Oda is hyping him up. He can't take multiple fights at once and that is fact in his last one. Just stating obvious on what we seen, no hate on him.

 

[HereNThere]

Actually looking writing angles, Oda is having Zoro go face Orochi or Kyoshiro (If he isn't double-agent) while Sanji is facing Queen or King.

Oda already has Sanji be target that YCs are aware of his existence as they send T6H who are under YC order. Once they heard they haven't got him yet and PO got defeated, Queen or King will come do the job themselves which looks to play that way.

Zoro will face possibly more traditional Samurai enemy given how deep he being push to be involve on Orochi side. It looks he wants his final opponent to be there as he isn't known at all or care about from YCs except for Sanji, so at this point might be less likely he face YC and someone else will fave the other Sanji isn't facing like Kidd or Law so to push his strong they gotten too.

If Orochi's fruit is made troublesome enough, maybe, but Kyoshiro is still his bodyguard, so even if Zoro goes after Orochi, he'll have to go through Kyoshiro.

Page One actually came on the behalf of Kyoshiro so, technically, Sanji had been fighting against the Samurai as well to begin with. Doesn't really mean anything though as Orochi and Kaido are interconnected and they use each other's resources.

@eefrit No reason why Zoro cant take on both Kyoshiro and King.

Unless it's off screen or he one shots them in a transition chapter, I'm sure it's going to be one or the other. Too many people to go around for Zoro to take out two decently relevant antagonists, one of whom may be related to a major plot point.

 

[King Moe]

If Orochi's fruit is made troublesome enough, maybe, but Kyoshiro is still his bodyguard, so even if Zoro goes after Orochi, he'll have to go through Kyoshiro.

Page One actually came on the behalf of Kyoshiro so, technically, Sanji had been fighting against the Samurai as well to begin with. Doesn't really mean anything though as Orochi and Kaido are interconnected and they use each other's resources.



Unless it's off screen or he one shots them in a transition chapter, I'm sure it's going to be one or the other. Too many people to go around for Zoro to take out two decently relevant antagonists, one of whom may be related to a major plot point.

P1 though came by order of YC of Queen though, not so much Kyoshiro. There is alliance between faction on why they are helping each other and thus far Sanji has take on 2 T6H members being Page One and Drake, so it's pushing him to Beast Pirates side. He isn't know much from Orochi side compare to Zoro who face with Kamazou and Kyoshiro who got more of good look of him especially Orochi who former try to attack him.

It feels it heading them separately taking good two factions of their top tiers which make sense to spread out to get rid of them if you think about it.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Orochi will be YC1 tier if he is zoro big match in wano. Otherwise, king (or kaido) is still the big match for zoro

Sanji probably will fight queen...i dont see sanji fighting king coz it seemed king is resistant to fire. I mean, his head is literally on fire

 

[nik87]

i dont see sanji fighting king coz it seemed king is resistant to fire.

The reason why he cant fight King is because he cant deal with master swordsmen. When even Luffy is being kept away from such fights then Sanji has nothing to search for in them either. Queen needs to go barehanded too or at least be a slow ass swinging swords like Luffy.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

The reason why he cant fight King is because he cant deal with master swordsmen. When even Luffy is being kept away from such fights then Sanji has nothing to search for in them either. Queen needs to go barehanded too or at least be a slow ass swinging swords like Luffy.

Agree, or maybe kidd and killer will join the fight against queen coz they were drown to almost death by his command

 

[kkck]

Overall I am not of the idea that zoro or sanji could take on their equivalent kaido subordinate. Which would be king and queen respectively. Considering zoro is getting a haki boost and has never used azura in the new world while sanji's haki is subpar and his boost is just a raid suit I am more inclined to thinking zoro is closer to king than sanji is to queen at least. And even then zoro doesn't have the feats behind him to actually justify defeating king.

Anyways, the scenario that makes the most sense IMO is that multiple people take on king, queen and jack. As in, each of them being defeated by at least 2 people. Not sure of which two people of course. I assume that for the sake of plot you will have at least inuarashi and nekomamushi against jack though. Zoro vs kyoshiro seems possible but that really depends on where kyoshiro's alliance is. We can't rule out kyoshiro fighting someone else within orochi's army or kaido's crew if he is an ally to hiyori. Overall I am of the idea that sanji will end up fighting one of the numbers. If the numbers are the equivalent to kaido's core crewmembers then that is a feat appropriate for sanji.

 

[nik87]

Overall I am not of the idea that zoro or sanji could take on their equivalent kaido subordinate. Which would be king and queen respectively. Considering zoro is getting a haki boost and has never used azura in the new world while sanji's haki is subpar and his boost is just a raid suit I am more inclined to thinking zoro is closer to king than sanji is to queen at least. And even then zoro doesn't have the feats behind him to actually justify defeating king.

Anyways, the scenario that makes the most sense IMO is that multiple people take on king, queen and jack. As in, each of them being defeated by at least 2 people. Not sure of which two people of course. I assume that for the sake of plot you will have at least inuarashi and nekomamushi against jack though. Zoro vs kyoshiro seems possible but that really depends on where kyoshiro's alliance is. We can't rule out kyoshiro fighting someone else within orochi's army or kaido's crew if he is an ally to hiyori. Overall I am of the idea that sanji will end up fighting one of the numbers. If the numbers are the equivalent to kaido's core crewmembers then that is a feat appropriate for sanji.

Well Sanjino has gotten the raid suit which solves several problems for him. First, it boosts his durability, he can take more damage with it and if it isnt enough then the invisibility comes into play and plot can always make an opponent have bad CoO so he cannot pick Sanji up with it. Conveniently the RS could also be a perfect shield against Queen's plague and the only thing Sanjino actually lacks for that fight is firepower, something that would take a Zoan permanently out/for long time.

Zoro actually has decent feats, even impressive but they are subtle. Nameless slash splitting a stone mountain for example, where does he need more...
Being crushed by gravity and despite that, he managed to push back an Admiral with flying nameless Ittoryu slash.
Surely, both of them will have harder fights than ever before but it remains obvious that Zoro has walked casually through the New World without ever being pushed anywhere close to his maximum ability, he didnt even have a need to use pre-TS Asura, not to mention anything new...

maybe kidd and killer will join the fight against queen

I think Kidd's eyes are on Kaido and he wont participate anywhere else.