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[grey matter]

Got oneshotted by Skullion, and Gajeel needed DF to beat an S12. Mira however beat an S12 while at a fraction of her power and fought the guy who oneshotted Gray with her weakest soul.

One shotted? He wasn't defeated, Brandish took him off. Moreover, he was off guard. Gray won't lose to Skullion if they fought a second time. Just wait for it, he will get his feats. Stalemating END>> anything Mira has done.
Gajeel didn't even needed magic to defeat Bradman after he went DF. He punched him to death. Even current arc, Stalemating LFD Natsu > Mira
Mira battled a fodder Spriggan who fought blind and didn't use his ultimate hax. GJ

OV-ER-RATED
She hasn't had a single on screen battle since Tartarus arc, and yet is wanked to death
Edit: wait, I forgot her stomping two underlings while expending all her magic power

 

[Crimson Ice]

Got oneshotted by Skullion, and Gajeel needed DF to beat an S12. Mira however beat an S12 while at a fraction of her power and fought the guy who oneshotted Gray with her weakest soul.

Let's say it all together, Mirajane is clearly UN-DER-RATED!

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He wasn't taken off guard. He literally got overpowered after using his strongest moves in his arsenal while in his strongest mode. They then spend several chapters contemplating how to beat Mira. Gray tries to get some bravado and gets shut down. He then does not try to fight back the accusation which means he admits it to be true lmfao.

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Gray also only went hands with END bcs Natsu held back and Gray had Slayer advantage play into the fight. Without Slayer advantage and Natsu not holding back, Gray would have gotten toasted.

Mira is getting one shotted by Black Ash. You comparing Gajeel beating a full powered Bradman to Mira beating Jacob when his eyes were closed and not using transport...

I’ll say it one more time. MIRAJANE IS THE MOST OVERRATED FIGHTER IN THIS SUB!

 

[Jko]

One shotted? He wasn't defeated, Brandish took him off. Moreover, he was off guard. Gray won't lose to Skullion if they fought a second time. Just wait for it, he will get his feats. Stalemating END>> anything Mira has done.
Gajeel didn't even needed magic to defeat Bradman after he went DF. He punched him to death. Even current arc, Stalemating LFD Natsu > Mira
Mira battled a fodder Spriggan who fought blind and didn't use his ultimate hax. GJ

OV-ER-RATED
She hasn't had a single on screen battle since Tartarus arc, and yet is wanked to death
Edit: wait, I forgot her stomping two underlings while expending all her magic power

He was going to die had it not been for Brandish. That was pretty clear when Brandish had to intervene.

Mira > Demo-fist > LFD. She hurt a dude who could no sell a Demo-fist and Natsu needed to cook the guy instead of overpowering him with his explosive power. Demo-fist is a stronger move than LFD as it has way better feats.

He needed DF to hurt Bloodman. Bloodman was easily capable of tanking Gajeel's attacks before he went logia and matched his physical prowess as well. DF was necessary to win otherwise he wouldn't have gotten a power up in the first place.

Mira battled an S12 that forced Natsu to use FDKM and manhandle Base Natsu + Lucy in CQC. Fighting blind also wasn't a hindrance as he stated he can see presences.

Doesn't matter if she had a bunch of offscreen battles. All her offscreen battles are her fighting in her weakest state against powerful opponents and coming out the victor.

J/H were made by Irene (the same woman who made fodder Erza level) and actually could force Mira out of BSS unlike Skullion lol. So maybe you shouldn't try to downplay them when they did better against BSS than the guy who oneshotted Gray.

Mira is getting one shotted by Black Ash. You comparing Gajeel beating a full powered Bradman to Mira beating Jacob when his eyes were closed and not using transport...

I’ll say it one more time. MIRAJANE IS THE MOST OVERRATED FIGHTER IN THIS SUB!

No, she is not otherwise he would have won by now. It was stated he didn't know he can win and that was against a holding back Mira who didn't even utilize anything stronger than her weakest form. Bloodman didn't use any decent hax in his arsenal that could have easily f-ed Gajeel either and Jacob already stated his blindness didn't hinder as he could see presences.

Mira is underrated heavily on this forum.

 

[Zelefomavis]

Maybe next contest should be "most overrated (by fans) fighter"



Getting the popcorn ready, just need a bit of salt but I guess I'm going to get plenty alright

 

[Kiki]

Finally top 3!!!!!!

Rank #3 (score: 173)

Laxus Dreyar

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@Tirl (4) @grey matter (7) @Vis (9) @Seven777 (8) @IamtherealMirajane (8) @August_Lightning (8) @Jko (6) @atlantisreturns (7) @Zelefomavis (7) @Biri Biri (10) @LighteningLord (10) @Ebony Maw (8) @Kurumi Tokisaki (7) @lakhan220 (8) @Brandish (8) @Belserion (9) @Sevently (8) @ald7mi_99 (8) @Takuan (9) @Kouichi (8) @Axiomus (8) @Jean Grey (8)

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Well, ridiculously high attack power. He alone could win against 9\12 spriggans together with one nuke

(Red Lightning Form)

It's Laxus nuff said.

(one-shot killing Spriggans is always a great showing, also one of the few people to ever put Erza down, almost put him above Gildarts)

Knocked out Kiria without using red lighting mode.

(Nothing to say. His actions are his proofs.)

Rank #2 (score: 178)

Gildarts Clive

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@Tirl (8) @grey matter (9) @Vis (10) @Seven777 (9) @August_Lightning (9) @Jko (8) @atlantisreturns (9) @Zelefomavis (10) @LighteningLord (9) @Ebony Maw (9) @Kurumi Tokisaki (8) @lakhan220 (9) @Brandish (9) @Belserion (7) @Sevently (9) @ald7mi_99 (9) @Takuan (10) @Kouichi (9) @Axiomus (9) @Jean Grey (9)

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Highest attack power and deadly magic. Not best in battle cuz he needs to be near his opponent (he also could blow up the floor with everyone, but it doesnt kill people)

(Needs feats recently but he still is there due to pure hype.)

Crash is pretty much instant win unless you have a counter to it like August's Copy Magic or being a dragon.

(was very close to putting Laxus above him, honestly these two would be tied if that were allowed)

All crush is an insta kill move for anyone that's not a Dragon, August who can nullify it or Natsu who can burn magic. Couple that with being the physically strongest FT member that can imbue his punches into it then you're cooking with some high offensive power.

Rank #1 (score: 187)

Natsu Dragneel

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@grey matter (10) @Vis (7) @Seven777 (10) @IamtherealMirajane (10) @August_Lightning (10) @Jko (10) @atlantisreturns (6) @Zelefomavis (9) @LighteningLord (8) @Ebony Maw (10) @Kurumi Tokisaki (10) @lakhan220 (10) @Brandish (10) @Belserion (10) @Sevently (10) @ald7mi_99 (10) @Takuan (7) @Kouichi (10) @Axiomus (10) @Jean Grey (10)

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DF vaporizes you and your magic

(one-shotted an immortal... kinda hard to top that)

Vaportized FH Zeref in Dragon Force.

(Anyone being higher than him bar Dragons or dead up till now is a joke. Magic burning, DS, DF, Thought projections etc)

(Dragon Force || Alvarez)

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Justice. The Dragon King Wins as he should.

 

[Kiki]

The Offense Ranking..

New competition: Best Husbando! See you in Taijutsu competition!

 

[Jko]

Who tf is Guttman?

 

[Demon Hunter]

yeah, top 3 is more or less alright if you include DF Natsu.

 

[Ebony Maw]

Wasn't expecting Jellal to finish ahead of Mira considering recent feats, but I suppose others are going off hype when I'm not.

@Kiki Thanks for doing such a great ranking again!

Who tf is Guttman?

The boi who should win the husbando rating, the objectively hottest hunk in FT

Spoiler: Just look at that jawline

 

[Vis]

Actually a bit iffy on some things but overall not a terrible list.

definitely a massive improvement to the tankiest one.

 

[Crimson Ice]

He was going to die had it not been for Brandish. That was pretty clear when Brandish had to intervene.

Mira > Demo-fist > LFD. She hurt a dude who could no sell a Demo-fist and Natsu needed to cook the guy instead of overpowering him with his explosive power. Demo-fist is a stronger move than LFD as it has way better feats.

He needed DF to hurt Bloodman. Bloodman was easily capable of tanking Gajeel's attacks before he went logia and matched his physical prowess as well. DF was necessary to win otherwise he wouldn't have gotten a power up in the first place.

Mira battled an S12 that forced Natsu to use FDKM and manhandle Base Natsu + Lucy in CQC. Fighting blind also wasn't a hindrance as he stated he can see presences.

Doesn't matter if she had a bunch of offscreen battles. All her offscreen battles are her fighting in her weakest state against powerful opponents and coming out the victor.

J/H were made by Irene (the same woman who made fodder Erza level) and actually could force Mira out of BSS unlike Skullion lol. So maybe you shouldn't try to downplay them when they did better against BSS than the guy who oneshotted Gray.


No, she is not otherwise he would have won by now. It was stated he didn't know he can win and that was against a holding back Mira who didn't even utilize anything stronger than her weakest form. Bloodman didn't use any decent hax in his arsenal that could have easily f-ed Gajeel either and Jacob already stated his blindness didn't hinder as he could see presences.

Mira is underrated heavily on this forum.

Yes, she is. Skullion didn't use black ash. Stop lying to me like we don't read the same manga, Skullion said he was pulling back because Wraith and Kyria were beaten and they were outnumbered or Fairy Tail was better than expected. Mira herself is the one who says she doesn't know if they would have won. No, Bloodman wouldn't have fucked Gajeel, this Tartaros hax is wanked mainly by Mira fans on this sub-forum. This also negates the fact that Bloodman got blitzed before he could do anything. Mira herself says Jacob was hindered in the extras with Lucy and Jacob didn't use his magic. Jacob needs his magic to be on par with the other S12. DF Gajeel>Mira

 

[Jko]

Yes, she is. Skullion didn't use black ash. Stop lying to me like we don't read the same manga, Skullion said he was pulling back because Wraith and Kyria were beaten and they were outnumbered or Fairy Tail was better than expected. Mira herself is the one who says she doesn't know if they would have won. No, Bloodman wouldn't have fucked Gajeel, this Tartaros hax is wanked mainly by Mira fans on this sub-forum. This also negates the fact that Bloodman got blitzed before he could do anything. Mira herself says Jacob was hindered in the extras with Lucy and Jacob didn't use his magic. Jacob needs his magic to be on par with the other S12. DF Gajeel>Mira

Bro, if Black Ash would've worked there wouldn't have been an excuse to leave. He legit says that the same can be said for them after Mira states that and states that they are stronger than expected. He retreated bcs he couldn't beat them like he beat Gray otherwise he would have take them right then and there with Black Ash. No indication that Black Ash would have been anymore effective then the ash attacks she was shown to dodge before.

Nah, Kyouka's hax, Seilah's hax and Mard Geer's hax would have royally screw Gajeel. He has shown nothing to say he can get out of those hax. He got blitzed before he could think, when? He had an entire convo in his head before Gajeel blitzed lol. He legit coild have ended the fight if he used any of there hax, but no he ised a weak ass curse Levy tanked and Gajeel could just swim both of them out of.

And in the anime Jacob says that hindrance didn't effect him. Mira is modest if her own power so she isn't one to gloat over a victory.

Jacob is still powerful enough to manhandle Base Natsu with his physicals. He also used his magic in the anime. Mira Alegria >> DF Gajeel. Mira didn't need a power up to beat an S12 while Gajeel did. Actually to make matters worse she was actively weakened to the point she could only sustain BSS for one move. So yeah, Mira is above Gajeel.

 

[Axiomus]

I did not expect Brandish to make this list. Her attack power has never struck me as all that high.

Skullion should be a lot higher. Like higher than Gray and Mirajane. He overpowered Ice-Make Silver and defeated Gray, and he looked to better shape in the aftermath of the tag team fight than Mirajane. He also has dragon force in his back pocket.

As for how Mirajane ranks against Gray, I'll leave that to be decided when they actually fight each other.

The rest of the list turned out pretty much how I expected.

It is absolutely excellent that Jacob did not make the top 10s. Granted it was a close call because of some *ahem* troll votes, but even that cannot counteract the fact that Jacob's attack power is absolute trash.

 

[Ramen]

I did not expect Brandish to make this list. Her attack power has never struck me as all that high.

Skullion should be a lot higher. Like higher than Gray and Mirajane. He overpowered Ice-Make Silver and defeated Gray, and he looked to better shape in the aftermath of the tag team fight than Mirajane. He also has dragon force in his back pocket.

As for how Mirajane ranks against Gray, I'll leave that to be decided when they actually fight each other.

The rest of the list turned out pretty much how I expected.

It is absolutely excellent that Jacob did not make the top 10s. Granted it was a close call because of some *ahem* troll votes, but even that cannot counteract the fact that Jacob's attack power is absolute trash.

you are just hating on my boi Jacob. He will clap the whole FT verse back to hollywood.

 

[Axiomus]

you are just hating on my boi Jacob. He will clap the whole FT verse back to hollywood.

Like here?

Spoiler

 

[Ramen]

Like here?

Spoiler

Couldn't manage to clap once against Mirajane without a takeover.

That's because he let them win.

 

[Axiomus]

That's because he let them win.

Well, this is true in the sense. Jacob exists to let people stronger than him beat on him.

 

[Ramen]

Well, this is true in the sense. Jacob exists to let people stronger than him beat on him.

That's what he wants you to think. He was the guy that scared the 5 DGS to another continent

 

[Axiomus]

That's what he wants you to think. He was the guy that scared the 5 DGS to another continent

If they were scared of him, it was because they were scared his weakness might be contagious.