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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Code:
1  Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
2  Dr.STONE 14
3  act-age 10
26 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
32 2.5D Seduction 3
35 Saotome Shimai Ha Manga no Tame Nara!? 6
40 Mission Yozakura Family 1
47 'Tis Time for Torture, Princess 2
51 Mitama Security: Spirit Busters 1
60 Yui Kamio Let's Loose 4
61 Akuma no Memumemu-chan 9
80 Tokedase! Mizore-chan 5
82 Sweet! 1
93 MARVEL×SHONEN JUMP+ SUPER COLLABORATION
199 There Is a Panting Voice from the Next Room... 2
274 Hina Change 2
428 Do Monster Girls Dream of their First Love? 2
450 Jimoto ga Japan 5
472 Curtain's Up, I'm Off 3
1 9784088822044 鬼滅の刃 19 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2020.2.4
2 9784088822068 Dr.STONE 14 集英社 Boichi 2020.2.4
3 9784088822051 アクタージュ act-age 10 集英社 宇佐崎しろ 2020.2.4
4 9784088822105 終わりのセラフ 20 集英社 山本ヤマト 2020.2.4
5 9784088822150 遊☆戯☆王 OCG ストラクチャーズ 1 集英社 佐藤雅史 2020.2.4
25 9784088821900 プラチナエンド 12 集英社 小畑健 2020.2.4
26 9784088822020 ゆらぎ荘の幽奈さん 20 集英社 ミウラタダヒロ 2020.2.4
32 9784088822075 2.5次元の誘惑 3 集英社 橋本悠 2020.2.4
35 9784088822228 早乙女姉妹は漫画のためなら!? 6 集英社 山本亮平 2020.2.4
40 9784088821788 夜桜さんちの大作戦 1 集英社 権平ひつじ 2020.2.4
41 9784088822136 魔女の怪画集 7 集英社 晴智 2020.2.4
47 9784088822211 姫様”拷問”の時間です 2 集英社 ひらけい 2020.2.4
51 9784088821726 ミタマセキュ霊ティ 1 集英社 鳩胸つるん 2020.2.4
60 9784088822037 神緒ゆいは髪を結い 4 集英社 椎橋寛 2020.2.4
61 9784088821955 悪魔のメムメムちゃん 9 集英社 四谷啓太郎 2020.2.4
71 9784088822143 ダークギャザリング 3 集英社 近藤憲一 2020.2.4
80 9784088822112 とけだせ!みぞれちゃん 5 集英社 足袋はなお 2020.2.4
82 9784088821863 すいとーと! 1 集英社 沖野ユイ 2020.2.4
93 9784088822174 MARVEL×少年ジャンプ+ SUPER 集英社 サクライタケシ 2020.2.4
191 9784088822419 隣の部屋から喘ぎ声がするんですけど・・・ 2 集英社 鈴木先輩 2020.2.4
275 9784088822204 ヒナちゃんチェンジ 2 集英社 梶川岳 2020.2.4
420 9784088822198 怪物少女は初恋の夢を見るか? 2 集英社 在間りしん 2020.2.4
453 9784088821740 ジモトがジャパン 5 集英社 林聖二 2020.2.4
472 9784088821894 開演のベルでおやすみ 3 集英社 今越章了 2020.2.4
As someone who only started tracking sales with the Kamio/Saiyuki batch, it's nice to finally see some series perform well. Surprising that Yozakura did so well when loads of people here were trashing it not too long ago.
 

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A new interview with the first editor, Katayama, for Kimetsu no Yaiba was released today.

1、鳄鱼画NAME的速度很快,一般1-2天就能完成。(参考:尾田是3-4天,空知是4-5天。)
2、鳄鱼和担当编辑通过电话和电子传真进行商讨和修改原稿。
3、鳄鱼受到JOJO的影响很大,比如呼吸法和JOJO的波纹类似,拥有不死身的鬼也让人想起JOJO。
4、鳄鱼是个原则性很强的作家,遇到她不想改的地方她会坚持到底,但反之,不涉及原则性的问题时,她又会虚心地改。比如片山曾觉得进入鬼杀队前的修炼篇幅占的太多了,在初期不容易抓住读者。但是鳄鱼说一般人不可能那么快成长的。而左近次一开始是不戴面具的普通老头,在被片山说冲击力不够后,改成了戴面具登场。
5、鳄鱼曾经决心,2015年内没成功连载的话,就放弃漫画家这条路。
6、有前辈像鳄鱼建议,像全职猎人一样,虽然有很多奇特的角色,但是主人公刚是个普通人,这种对比会很有意思。鳄鱼听从建议后,画出来的就是炭治郎了。
7、鳄鱼喜欢银魂,鬼灭中的搞笑部分受到银魂的影响。
8、鳄鱼不为自己而画,她一直考虑的是如何能让读者享受其中。
9、民间传说鬼灭曾经有过近乎腰斩的绝境,片山否定了这个说法:没有过这种危机。比如鬼灭第7话就拿到了中彩,就是因为人气很高才突然决定给的。
10、 动画的19话是神回,对应的漫画40话其实也是神回。片山虽然13话之后就离任鬼灭担当了,但实际上40话的时候因为编辑交替,他临时担任了这段时间的编辑。他记得这段剧情当时就很好评,而且也受到了前辈的表扬。
11、鬼灭从来就没在意过“友情、努力、胜利”的标语。片山从来没有以此作为标准过,他觉得作品的标准就是能否让读者觉得有趣,仅此而已。


From what I can TL the summary.
1) Gotouge draws names fast, taking up to 1-2 days only to complete (compared to Oda 3-4 days and Sorachi 4-5 days)
2) Gotouge and the editor revised the things through phone and electronic fax
3) Inspiration for the work is Jojo (breathing styles and the undead/ghost)
4) Gotouge is a principled writer. When he/she doesn't want to change anything, he/she will persist in that, but when not related to principled issues, he/she will change things modestly. Then goes to follow about an example that Goutouge changed a thing after a suggestion (citing it is not easy to grab readers in the early days)
5) Gotouge planned to give up on the mangaka work in case Kimetsu wasn't serialized during 2015.
6) Tanjirou's design came up as a suggestion that his design as an ordinary guy should counter the more strange characters later on
7) Gotouge loves Gintama, and the comedy bits are inspired by it
8) Gotouge does not work for his/her's enjoyment, but thinks about how to make the readers enjoy the manga
9) There is a rumor around that Kimetsu no Yaiba once didn't do well and was in a desperate situation, which was never true. In fact, the editor calls Kimetsu a "lottery", which managed to get a Color Page for Chapter 7, suddenly decided out of nowhere because of the popularity.
10) Couldn't TL this, sorry
11) Kimetsu has never paid attention to the Jump slogan "Friendship, Effort, Victory". The editor has never used this as a standard. The standard of the work was whether it can make the readers to find it interesting, and that was all.
Gotouge being a speed demon with drawing reminds me of Mashima. I do wonder how prolific Wani-sensei could be if he/she opened up a social media account. I'm gonna fall off my chair if they end up spamming their account with sketches/drawings at the same rate Mashima does.
 

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A new interview with the first editor, Katayama, for Kimetsu no Yaiba was released today.

1、鳄鱼画NAME的速度很快,一般1-2天就能完成。(参考:尾田是3-4天,空知是4-5天。)
2、鳄鱼和担当编辑通过电话和电子传真进行商讨和修改原稿。
3、鳄鱼受到JOJO的影响很大,比如呼吸法和JOJO的波纹类似,拥有不死身的鬼也让人想起JOJO。
4、鳄鱼是个原则性很强的作家,遇到她不想改的地方她会坚持到底,但反之,不涉及原则性的问题时,她又会虚心地改。比如片山曾觉得进入鬼杀队前的修炼篇幅占的太多了,在初期不容易抓住读者。但是鳄鱼说一般人不可能那么快成长的。而左近次一开始是不戴面具的普通老头,在被片山说冲击力不够后,改成了戴面具登场。
5、鳄鱼曾经决心,2015年内没成功连载的话,就放弃漫画家这条路。
6、有前辈像鳄鱼建议,像全职猎人一样,虽然有很多奇特的角色,但是主人公刚是个普通人,这种对比会很有意思。鳄鱼听从建议后,画出来的就是炭治郎了。
7、鳄鱼喜欢银魂,鬼灭中的搞笑部分受到银魂的影响。
8、鳄鱼不为自己而画,她一直考虑的是如何能让读者享受其中。
9、民间传说鬼灭曾经有过近乎腰斩的绝境,片山否定了这个说法:没有过这种危机。比如鬼灭第7话就拿到了中彩,就是因为人气很高才突然决定给的。
10、 动画的19话是神回,对应的漫画40话其实也是神回。片山虽然13话之后就离任鬼灭担当了,但实际上40话的时候因为编辑交替,他临时担任了这段时间的编辑。他记得这段剧情当时就很好评,而且也受到了前辈的表扬。
11、鬼灭从来就没在意过“友情、努力、胜利”的标语。片山从来没有以此作为标准过,他觉得作品的标准就是能否让读者觉得有趣,仅此而已。


From what I can TL the summary.
1) Gotouge draws names fast, taking up to 1-2 days only to complete (compared to Oda 3-4 days and Sorachi 4-5 days)
2) Gotouge and the editor revised the things through phone and electronic fax
3) Inspiration for the work is Jojo (breathing styles and the undead/ghost)
4) Gotouge is a principled writer. When he/she doesn't want to change anything, he/she will persist in that, but when not related to principled issues, he/she will change things modestly. Then goes to follow about an example that Goutouge changed a thing after a suggestion (citing it is not easy to grab readers in the early days)
5) Gotouge planned to give up on the mangaka work in case Kimetsu wasn't serialized during 2015.
6) Tanjirou's design came up as a suggestion that his design as an ordinary guy should counter the more strange characters later on
7) Gotouge loves Gintama, and the comedy bits are inspired by it
8) Gotouge does not work for his/her's enjoyment, but thinks about how to make the readers enjoy the manga
9) There is a rumor around that Kimetsu no Yaiba once didn't do well and was in a desperate situation, which was never true. In fact, the editor calls Kimetsu a "lottery", which managed to get a Color Page for Chapter 7, suddenly decided out of nowhere because of the popularity.
10) Couldn't TL this, sorry
11) Kimetsu has never paid attention to the Jump slogan "Friendship, Effort, Victory". The editor has never used this as a standard. The standard of the work was whether it can make the readers to find it interesting, and that was all.
That's pretty informative and damn, what a story actually... To go from planning to quit to having the biggest series in recent memory in the span of just a few years. Also didn't think they considered kimetsu a success right from the very start, good to know.

The bit about Jojo surprised me though, didn't expect jojo to be the influence for kimetsu.
 

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Do you know that's illegal, rigth ?
Isn't anime on Bilibili legal?
and I doubt that those companies vere happy about it.

Regardles China people are angry
 

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So do you think Zipman and Agravity Boys will have the same kind of result as Mitama and Yozakura ? (for sales)
 

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Any chance of an early ToC today with cover dropping early? (or at least i think this is earlier than usual)

So do you think Zipman and Agravity Boys will have the same kind of result as Mitama and Yozakura ? (for sales)
Agravity looks like it'll do well from the jp response to it on twitter. Zipman doesn't look as promising imo.
 

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Zipman no, it feels more like Bozebeats and Saiyuuki to me where the first chapter had a good impact but since then it's gotten kinda boring not taking it's ideas anywhere fun. Yozakura by comparison has it's problems but I still find it fun to read as a silly episodic series.

Agravity Boys I can see doing well, it's getting bonus pages and it feels like it'll work well as a Gintama replacement (sci-fi mix, good character chemistry, fujo potential, and of course some toilet humour) which I'd bet the japanese audience has missed.
 

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Regardles China people are angry
And so ?
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and I doubt that those companies vere happy about it.
I wouldn't give much credit about China, really.

Big market and many companies want the money, but the attached censorship and their own problems in China...
 

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Big market and many companies want the money, but the attached censorship and their own problems in China...
Yeah I agree China censorship is problem and we will see in future how companies will be greedy for China cash. I follow box office and superheroe movies make big bucks in China but films like Joker, Deadpool, Bohemian Rhapsody are proof that are worth make movies not suitable for China censorship but that is discussion not for this tread.
 

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F* China. Don't care if its banned in that authoritarian state. Big Hollywood movies already suffered in quality since they started appealing to that market and started doing cooperation with their production companies.

Anyways, I didn't really want to post here for the last days because of the heavy political discussions here which kinda take the fun away of just talking about Jump. I get that with UU's case and its really fine If people can't stomach this type of content but the MHA discussion didn't really make much sense and got blown out of scale here. Hori clearly didn't have any intention with hurting anyone and chose the name because the dude is a bad evil doctor that does human experiments but yeah, don't want to start the topic again, so ill leave it at that. Would be nice if we could move away from this.
 

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Isn't China second biggest market for anime after Japan? I'm not big expert about anime in China so far as I know Bilibili is popular service with mostly younger users (teen, young adult). Dunno about how much revenue came from China/Bilibili but it's nothing to celebrated.
So what? They don't have a hold on the industry like you're implying since AOT and SAO are still running and are still among the biggest anime running worldwide. This ban only cripples them since MHA was a big property over there and because of their overreaction they lost a moneymaker.
 

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So what? They don't have a hold on the industry like you're implying since AOT and SAO are still running and are still among the biggest anime running worldwide. This ban only cripples them since MHA was a big property over there and because of their overreaction they lost a moneymaker.
It cripples both.
Extra money is extra money no matter what your opinion of China is. Is it going to kill MHA? Of course not.
 

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Horikoshi is Trending Topic in Spain. Spanish and Latin American fans are supporting Horikoshi (#SupportHorikoshi was also Trending Topic 1 in Mexico).

EDIT: Welp. First time ever I see Hero Academia being a Moment in Twitter (usually the only anime to get Moments in Twitter Spain are the mega-mainstream ones aka Dragon Ball, Naruto and Death Note).

 

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It cripples both.
Extra money is extra money no matter what your opinion of China is. Is it going to kill MHA? Of course not.
Billibilli isn't on the production committee so they wouldn't have gotten revenue from that site anyways. Once again China has no hold on the anime industry and Japan doesn't make anime to appeal them it only helps failing anime more so than successful titles.
 

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More than China or Korea banning Bnha, I'm more worried about Hori's health, all this backlash must've caused him troubles. Maybe he doesn't care but who knows.
 

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Billibilli isn't on the production committee so they wouldn't have gotten revenue from that site anyways. Once again China has no hold on the anime industry and Japan doesn't make anime to appeal them it only helps failing anime more so than successful titles.
? They'd still get money off streaming rights, merch etc.
Again, extra money is extra money, period.

And I don't even think Horikoshi should bow down and ask for forgiveness, he already addressed the situation adequately imo. The guys making this shitstorm don't look like people that will accept an apology in the first place anyways.

But acting like this situation doesn't affect shueisha/mha is wrong, it does and they're definitely not happy with the situation.
 

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? They'd still get money off streaming rights, merch etc.
Again, extra money is extra money, period.
What extra money? The revenue they make in the foreign market is disproportionate to the money they make in Japan, all Shuiesha, Toho, Tomy and Bamco cares about is how the series does in it's country of origin hell China was among the last market to get MHA and that was AFTER it was a huge success. You are vastly over exaggerating how much of a big deal this is.

But acting like this situation doesn't affect shueisha/mha is wrong, it does and they're definitely not happy with the situation.
They've literally made one response on the outcry days ago and left it at that. Why would a JAPANESE made product be effected by being banned from CHINA? Death Note has been banned in China for over a decade and since then has had five live action movies, a TV series, merchandise and recently had a new one-shot released that had a great reception so please tell me how it being banned from China effected it? I'd really like to know how not being legally available in China stopped it from making money and continuing?
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Horikoshi is Trending Topic in Spain. Spanish and Latin American fans are supporting Horikoshi (#SupportHorikoshi was also Trending Topic 1 in Mexico).

EDIT: Welp. First time ever I see Hero Academia being a Moment in Twitter (usually the only anime to get Moments in Twitter Spain are the mega-mainstream ones aka Dragon Ball, Naruto and Death Note).

Japan also got their support Horikoshi's tag trending. It's also 1# in Russia, RUSSIA the same people who were victims of the same atrocities can see how stupid the hate mob is being.

 

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What extra money! The revenue they make in the foreign market is disproportionate to the money [...]
Disproportionate or not, money is money. Even 5% of the total is still important, I don't see what's so hard to grasp.

And I'm really not exaggerating anything, I never said this was a huge deal. This is a really weird interpretation of my post.

Say you have 100 dollars/euros/whatever. You lose 5. Sure, you still have the remaining 95 so it's all good, but you'd probably still be unhappy about those 5 you lost. Simple as that.
 

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