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Who will win the next fight ?

  • Human: Raiden Tameemon

    Votes: 9 36.0%
  • God: Shiva

    Votes: 13 52.0%
  • Tie

    Votes: 3 12.0%

  • Total voters
    25
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I think most Gods are nerfed. Thor should be able to summon thunder, Poseidon should be able to control sea, Heracles charge like a raging bull no strategy whatsoever Zeus should be able to summon thunder too just like Thor.
Lol Zeus should be able to snap his fingers and win.
 

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I think most Gods are nerfed. Thor should be able to summon thunder, Poseidon should be able to control sea, Heracles charge like a raging bull no strategy whatsoever Zeus should be able to summon thunder too just like Thor.
Thor used lightnings against Lu Bu, and Poseidon showed the ability to manipulate water in his introduction, but didn't use it in his fight because he never took Kojirou seriously.

No idea why Zeus didn't use his lightning. The manga at least implied he especializes in CQC rather than depend of his weapon. It could also be that the authors didn't want to use two characters able to use electricity in a row, so they made Zeus a physical fighter instead.
 

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Ehh, I'm not very good at power ranking, but if I have to make one:

Zeus/Adam
Poseidon
Thor
Lu Bu
Heracles/Kojirou
Jack

Something like that.
Almost the same as mine :thumbs , only difference is kojiro. A true comrade!
 

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Almost the same as mine :thumbs , only difference is kojiro. A true comrade!
They say great minds think alike. Just the advantages of being a man of culture.
 

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They say great minds think alike. Just the advantages of being a man of culture.


Also noticed your avi and sig are Velvet Crowe, the best girl of the Tales series.
 
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Still Eve>>>>>>Brun, aphrodite and every other girls.
For me Mother Eve is the best Woman.
 

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Just like holy Trinity of Christianity being Father, Son and Holy Ghost just like that Hinduism has Trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. All three are equally powerful
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Her titties are nice.
She's a very loyal and cute personality as well
 

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Zeus
Adam
Thor
Poseidon
Lu Bu
Jack
Heracles
Sasaki
 

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Also noticed your avi and sig are Velvet Crowe, the best girl of the Tales series.
Wow, you like Velvet too?! Your level of culture is way higher of what I expected.


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Also Eve is a great woman, but she's our mom, don't lewd her, guys.
 
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  1. Zeus.
  2. Adam.
  3. Thor.
  4. Lu Bu.
  5. Kojiro.
  6. Poseidon.
  7. Hercules.
  8. Jack.

Jack is below in term of power but I believe he could beat pretty much everyone on the list besides the top 4.
 

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Jack Volund is the most overpowered. Imagine turning anything into weapon that can kill God. I think if Lu Bu had that Volund he can defeat Thor but that's unlikely since Lu Bu was the type of fighter to charge head on.
 

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Jack has hax and his Volund is the strongest we have seen so far (seeing that we didn't see what Adam's Volund was able to do), but he was able to win because he fought in a battlefield he was familiar with, where he could make a weapon of nearly everything (plus Herc wasn't the best strategist either and his power crippled him too). Had he fought against someone else in the normal ring, I don't think he would have won that easily, since his only options (other than throwing his knives) would have been using his blood and hope for his enemy to get close enough to being able to strike him or wait for his opponent to strike the ground and then use the debris to attack at long range, like Mikoto Misaka's Railgun.
For that I put him the last in my power ranking list. Physically he may not be strongest, but with preparation and the indicated scenario, he's broken.
 
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Surprised to see so many people putting Poseidon above Thor :neutral .
 

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Jack is the weakest but most dangerous fighter in the entire series, he’s so goddamn crafty, intelligent and cunning

Adam is easily the strongest, even when he died in the middle of the fight he was pummeling Zeus in his strongest form
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There's bound to be at least one tie between the humans and the gods, so it may be this one.

But if that isn't the case, as much as I want Shiva to win, he may lose this round. Humanity becoming full of themselves and looking down on the Gods after gaining the lead would make for some interesting moments, in my opinion.

In terms of ability, I also hope Shiva goes all out. Given that he's the Hindu God of Destruction and Creation, we may see some interesting local changes for the Sumo Ring, which could allow for some amazing destructive feats from both sides.

Saw a few comments about Heracles and Jack Rip, so I think I'll post my thoughts about it.

Heracles, while he's good natured and loves Humanity, had a simple view of things. He stopped the Gods from culling Thebes and he quite literally thought he'd be able to do so again. He meant well, but he thought he could have his cake, i.e. participate in the tournament as a representative of the Gods, and eat it too, i.e. win his fight and have humanity spared at the end. In the end he lost, but even if he won, it is highly unlikely he would've been able to convince the Gods to spare humanity, especially with the death of Poseidon. I wouldn't be surprised if Brunhild knew that and why she was willing to go as low as she against someone we see she clearly loved and respected. There is no taking things to chance in this situation. It's all or nothing.

With Jack, I don't think we were supposed to feel sorry for him. His backstory gave a frame of reference of how he became how he did, as we saw with the other human contestants. In my opinion, the implications were he was always slightly terrible, but had another outlet, his mother, to use his abilities. Hell, it was even shown when that outlet didn't give him what he wanted, he immediately disposed of her. It was basically a way to show his emotional reading ability. At least, to me.
You honestly think Shiva won’t one shot Raiden ? He was matched up with Adam before Zeus interfered
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It’s crazy how people are putting Zeus over Adam

I don’t even think Adam used his Volund’s ability against Zeus and he was beating his ass effortlessly

Adam is literally fastest being in the series

1. Adam
2. Zeus
3. Thor
4. Jack
5. Heracles
6. Konjiro
7. Poseidon
 

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Nah, Adam had the strongest ability, but he wasn't the strongest - he quite literally died as he could not withstand Zeus' blows, nor could his eyes last long enough to win.
The part about his keeping fighting while dead sounds cool, but it's the biggest bullshit in the series so far. Not like it helped Adam win, anyway.
 

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My power ranking would be:

8. Jack

I think we all can agree that when it comes to overall power, durability, speed and endurance he's easily the weakest fighter presented thus far. That doesn't mean though that he would be totally unable to win against some of the fighters ranked above him. His intelligence, trickery and cunningness make him able to have a decent shot at winning against some fighters ranked above him. The reason I ranked him in the last spot in the ranking is that, despite his Volund being really good (probably the most broken one so far), he can only show its full potential in an arena like the one he fought in against Hercules. If he fights in a straight arena like the one most of the battles thus far have taken place, I don't think he would be able to do nearly as well as he did. Not to mention his other stats aren't nearly as good as the other fighters'.

7. Lu Bu

One of the physically strongest humans, but sadly not much more. He's a straight fighter that depends mainly on physical strength and his fighting style is really straightforward and centred around overwhelming his opponents. I don't see him winning against any of the fighters ranked above him. Either because some of them are physically stronger, faster and/or have more skill and versatility.

6. Hercules

Immense physical strength and durability but that's not all there's to it. I rank him above Lu Bu because I think that when it comes to physical strength both are even, but Hercules has more versatility going on for him with his Labours.

5. Sasaki Kojiro

Both his adaptative capabilities and his evolution during battle are insane. I don't think any of the fighters ranked below him would be able to beat him in a straight fight. Hercules is way too linear, not to mention that Jack was able to react to his attacks so I don't doubt that Kojiro will be able to do it as well. Lu Bu is more of the same. Jack is the only one I can see winning against Sasaki due to his intelligence and cunningness but in a straight normal fight, Sasaki most likely wins too.

4. Thor

Probably second only to Odin in the Norse Pantheon. He beat Lu Bu handily, and his Mjolnir is probably the most dangerous weapon in this tournament. A single strike can pretty much obliterate you, its power and speed is off the charts and coupled with Thor's immense physical strength makes the weapon even more broken than what it is already.

3. Poseidon

Called the Zeus of the Seas. This position might be controversial here, but he wasn't portrayed as being much weaker than Zeus. He toyed the whole fight against Sasaki and let him adapt and evolve by increasing his power little by little. Had he fought seriously since the start instead of acting like the cocky little shit he was, the result would have been really different IMO. Not to mention, he easily disposed of one of his brothers, who was stated to be a really high-level deity too. I put him above Thor because his attacks seem to be much harder to dodge than Thor's, whose attacks seem to be pretty linear in comparison. He should be able to attack using water too, considering what he did in his entrance to the ring, but sadly we never saw any offensive attacks in that department, maybe because he underestimated Sasaki far too much.

2. Adam

Best daddy. His foresight is immensely broken. He was able to overwhelm Zeus with ease. He can even copy and react to techniques that stop the flow of time. Fought evenly with Zeus in his Adamas Form and had a good shot at winning. His durability is pretty damn great too as he was able to tank attacks from Zeus in his Final Form, who is probably the being with the highest physical strength showed thus far along with Thor and his hammer. The reason he's ranked second despite beating the shit out of Zeus during most of the fight is that his godly foresight puts a huge strain in his body and he's unable to use it permanently or for large periods of time, which is the reason why Zeus was able to beat him in the first place.

1. Zeus (Adamas Form)

Undisputably the strongest character so far IMO. He's incredibly fast, can stop time, use lightning (which for some reason didn't use in his fight against Adam) and his Adamas Form is even more broken and durable. He can maintain this form for around 13 minutes at full power. In his battle against Adam he was capable of beating him with only the 7 minutes he had access to due to his injuries. Honestly, I think the first two places of this ranking are interchangeable. Zeus can beat Adam if he goes into his Adamas Form but if Adam doesn't fuck around and he's able to finish him before he goes into that state then he wins. I'm giving Zeus the benefit of the doubt overall. Both fucked around during pretty much all the battle, but in the end, the one who won was Zeus.
 
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