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Who will be Sanji's main opponent during the Raid on Onigashima?


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I still think the match with PageOne will continue. Once he spots Sanji I doubt he will just ignore him...
that is also possible, pageone seems to have some personal business against sanji. Page one might bring new techniques for the second round
 

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that is also possible, pageone seems to have some personal business against sanji. Page one might bring new techniques for the second round
Nah Page One done with. Sanji could face another of T6H fighters, but PO can be good for Zoro since after this chapter he needs to be at least not liability to anyone.

Sanji gonna face someone else over PO for a warm up fight, that's for sure.
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Apoo seems to be interesting opponent for sanji. Sanji never had a full fight against a supernova. Although apoo can also be matched against kidd or brook
I still think the match with PageOne will continue. Once he spots Sanji I doubt he will just ignore him...
Nah to neither especially Apoo has Kidd already, but Zoro vs Apoo more likely after he might want revenge. Brook could do something better than Zoro couldn't in facing him too.

Sanji face someone else for warm up fight and won't be repeat fight again unless you saying Luffy vs Holdem and Zoro vs Batman, Kamazou, and Apoo is happening more which I can agree the later on.
 

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Nah Page One done with. Sanji could face another of T6H fighters, but PO can be good for Zoro since after this chapter he needs to be at least not liability to anyone.

Sanji gonna face someone else over PO for a warm up fight, that's for sure.
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Nah to neither especially Apoo has Kidd already, but Zoro vs Apoo more likely after he might want revenge. Brook could do something better than Zoro couldn't in facing him too.

Sanji face someone else for warm up fight and won't be repeat fight again unless you saying Luffy vs Holdem and Zoro vs Batman, Kamazou, and Apoo is happening more which I can agree the later on.
PO is not for zoro because he is not a swordsman
Now, apoo vs zoro is just dumb lmao if they are meant to fight, then zoro would just fight him at the spot. Sanji vs PO has hype, just like kaido vs zoro and luffy
 
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Nah Page One done with. Sanji could face another of T6H fighters, but PO can be good for Zoro since after this chapter he needs to be at least not liability to anyone.

Sanji gonna face someone else over PO for a warm up fight, that's for sure.
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Nah to neither especially Apoo has Kidd already, but Zoro vs Apoo more likely after he might want revenge. Brook could do something better than Zoro couldn't in facing him too.

Sanji face someone else for warm up fight and won't be repeat fight again unless you saying Luffy vs Holdem and Zoro vs Batman, Kamazou, and Apoo is happening more which I can agree the later on.
Based your post, what makes you think PO would not want seek another encounter with Sanji? If as you say, Zoro would do the same with Apoo?

You're entitled to your own conclusions but I think you're doing yourself a great disservice by dismissing the possibility of Sanji fighting Page One again; especially before the arc is even over and fully knowing that both opponents are healthy.
There is a greater possibility in my opinion of Sanji clashing Page One again before any other fights he may have during this invasion. Whether Sanji believes Page One is beneath him or not. If the latter feels there's unfinished business, he's just not going to walk away because Sanji says "nah, sorry mate. We're done with."
 

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Based your post, what makes you think PO would not want seek another encounter with Sanji? If as you say, Zoro would do the same with Apoo?

You're entitled to your own conclusions but I think you're doing yourself a great disservice by dismissing the possibility of Sanji fighting Page One again; especially before the arc is even over and fully knowing that both opponents are healthy.
There is a greater possibility in my opinion of Sanji clashing Page One again before any other fights he may have during this invasion. Whether Sanji believes Page One is beneath him or not. If the latter feels there's unfinished business, he's just not going to walk away because Sanji says "nah, sorry mate. We're done with."
I agree with this. P1 has a reason to fight sanji again, more than the reason for apoo to fight zoro
 

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PO is not for zoro because he is not a swordsman
Now, apoo vs zoro is just dumb lmao if they are meant to fight, then zoro would just fight him at the spot. Sanji vs PO has hype, just like kaido vs zoro and luffy
Oda doesn't really do rematches much when he already shown dominance or defeat already as shown in past arcs. It could be nice for Zoro face someone of T6H since he never did and it is possible for Apoo to face Zoro since Zoro doesn't let anyone damage him like that and get away with it. Zoro can be vengeful guy, so it's nto out of the possibility and Sanji vs King or Queen is much more being that in the end. Luffy is getting Kaido, but Zoro is getting someone lesser of being T6H or Orochi (YC4) as his major opponent from how it looks.
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I agree with this. P1 has a reason to fight sanji again, more than the reason for apoo to fight zoro
Nah, P1 is for Zoro as he need someone to prove himself for a fight, but Apoo vs Zoro helps too as Zoro would want revenge against him after what he did too. Sanji going for someone greater for his final fight.
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Based your post, what makes you think PO would not want seek another encounter with Sanji? If as you say, Zoro would do the same with Apoo?

You're entitled to your own conclusions but I think you're doing yourself a great disservice by dismissing the possibility of Sanji fighting Page One again; especially before the arc is even over and fully knowing that both opponents are healthy.
There is a greater possibility in my opinion of Sanji clashing Page One again before any other fights he may have during this invasion. Whether Sanji believes Page One is beneath him or not. If the latter feels there's unfinished business, he's just not going to walk away because Sanji says "nah, sorry mate. We're done with."
We can say same thing with Luffy vs Holdem as you don't think Holdem wants his payback too, so by that logic you want to see that as his warmup- fight despite defeat he gotten? Same with Zoro vs Hawkins, Batman, and now Apoo after he didn't finish thing with them, so we can expect same for him too. Just saying Oda rarely make second round with same opponents after they been beaten or dominated. It's not about I am dismissing it because of how I feel it's just usually how Oda does most of time making second rematch after Strawhats already bested or defeated someone prior especially same arc.

Not saying PO might not want to face him again, but Sanji probably be after someone else on his own side of things as well sticking to the plan and not waste time which leads to another foe from PO for him to face in the end. Talking about routes would go. Not saying 100% true, but feels unlike Oda want to push another fight with same people against to prove something when it already prove dominance and defeat prior unless they are final antagonist for the arcs.
 

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We can say same thing with Luffy vs Holdem as you don't think Holdem wants his payback too, so by that logic you want to see that as his warmup- fight despite defeat he gotten? Same with Zoro vs Hawkins, Batman, and now Apoo after he didn't finish thing with them, so we can expect same for him too. Just saying Oda rarely make second round with same opponents after they been beaten or dominated. It's not about I am dismissing it because of how I feel it's just usually how Oda does most of time making second rematch after Strawhats already bested or defeated someone prior especially same arc.
Of course we can say the same thing about Holdem should he be on Onigashima. There's nothing stopping him from wanting to fight Luffy again for humiliating him earlier. Similarly for the other examples you pointed. Did you think I'd disagree? They are enemies after all. Except for Hawkins really, there's still a question mark for me as to what he'll do now; siding with the alliance, remaining subordinate to not risk Kaido's wrath afterwards, etc. We'll see.

Whether or not there was a precedent doesn't prevent it from occurring again. Just keep an open mind to the possibility, that's all I'm saying.

Not saying PO might not want to face him again, but Sanji probably be after someone else on his own side of things as well sticking to the plan and not waste time which leads to another foe from PO for him to face in the end. Talking about routes would go. Not saying 100% true, but feels unlike Oda want to push another fight with same people against to prove something when it already prove dominance and defeat prior unless they are final antagonist for the arcs.
Who would Sanji be after exactly? He's not shown any grudge against anyone really in this arc (correct me if I'm wrong). All before him are enemies, so again, what exactly is to stop Sanji from fighting Page One, should he encounter him (as he might as well do, seeing as they have to make their way to Kaido and take out all the enemies)?

The plan is to defeat Kaido and his forces. The numbers are not in the alliance's favour so it's likely that many will have several fights, especially considering the number of strong individuals Kaido has on his side. You and Sanji might believe Page One was dominated in the previous encounter and defeated, but he might see it differently and could want to finish it once and for all as he seems unbothered and unscathed. Whether it's a warm up fight or being saved as final antagonist as you said.
 

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Of course we can say the same thing about Holdem should he be on Onigashima. There's nothing stopping him from wanting to fight Luffy again for humiliating him earlier. Similarly for the other examples you pointed. Did you think I'd disagree? They are enemies after all. Except for Hawkins really, there's still a question mark for me as to what he'll do now; siding with the alliance, remaining subordinate to not risk Kaido's wrath afterwards, etc. We'll see.

Whether or not there was a precedent doesn't prevent it from occurring again. Just keep an open mind to the possibility, that's all I'm saying.



Who would Sanji be after exactly? He's not shown any grudge against anyone really in this arc (correct me if I'm wrong). All before him are enemies, so again, what exactly is to stop Sanji from fighting Page One, should he encounter him (as he might as well do, seeing as they have to make their way to Kaido and take out all the enemies)?

The plan is to defeat Kaido and his forces. The numbers are not in the alliance's favour so it's likely that many will have several fights, especially considering the number of strong individuals Kaido has on his side. You and Sanji might believe Page One was dominated in the previous encounter and defeated, but he might see it differently and could want to finish it once and for all as he seems unbothered and unscathed. Whether it's a warm up fight or being saved as final antagonist as you said.
So you fine seeing Luffy having his rematch with him and you think it's possibility too despite he already defeated him? As well for Zoro side? Hawkins is maybe as he could face them again or change sides depending as we have to see.

Not in grudge way, but it lead to him facing someone more important and stronger than PO from where it goes which for warm-up fight could be another T6H and leading to facing King or Queen for final fight. PO don't know he face someone again he already defeated. While there is possibility to face each other again, but doubt Sanji be focus on him when on someone else more dangerous is what I mean. PO could be use to matchup for the other Strawhats since be good development more for them than another fight between Sanji since we already now early he got defeated by him, so just saying on how T6H could be use as warm-up fights, but in more different characters this time around which could happen. Not disagreeing on you saying we see them again, but just how it goes on routes as many ways it could play out.
 

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sanji vs kanjuro will be quite cool too IMO. Battle of the spies.
Sanji can use powder to detect the invisible absalom, so kanjuro might use the liquid ink to detect the invisible RS sanji
 

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Have added a poll.

Sanji vs Queen, I'll stick with that. Sanji might get some help from say Chopper who can combat Queen's viruses, but when it comes to the actual fight it'll be RS Sanji v the Brachiosaurus.

I think Franky/Usopp have upgraded the RS further too.
 
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With all that's happening right now and has happened so far I can see Sanji vs King being a thing.

Commonalities:

• Use fire based attacks
• Specialize in air combat
• Wear black suits
• Use kicks

Though Queen is also a possibility. He could help Sanji activate his dormant germa genes with his viruses.
 

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I can see Sanji vs King being a thing.
Is King gonna throw away his sword or Sanji can deal with it in a way that isnt obvious to me? :hmm
 

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Is King gonna throw away his sword or Sanji can deal with it in a way that isnt obvious to me? :hmm
Have we seen him use it? Queen also has a sword, yet he didn't use it in his confrontation with BM.

Yes, I honestly think he will throw it away or he simply won't use it lol.
 

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Have we seen him use it? Queen also has a sword, yet he didn't use it in his confrontation with BM.
Yes, I honestly think he will throw it away or he simply won't use it lol.
Queen's look like generic swords, even Jack's look more special but King's looks straight like a Meito, probably a Saijo O Wazamono even.
I doubt he fights without it.
 

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sanji vs kanjuro will be quite cool too IMO. Battle of the spies.
Sanji can use powder to detect the invisible absalom, so kanjuro might use the liquid ink to detect the invisible RS sanji
Nah Zoro opponent there especially he is attacking the female fans paired him with. Zoro need to show he can truly protect someone instead of going on his knees after getting hurt. That's his opponent for sure especially leading to Orochi's main fight while Sanji probably getting another T6H to face and then King or Queen on his end.
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With all that's happening right now and has happened so far I can see Sanji vs King being a thing.

Commonalities:

• Use fire based attacks
• Specialize in air combat
• Wear black suits
• Use kicks

Though Queen is also a possibility. He could help Sanji activate his dormant germa genes with his viruses.
Honestly think that going to happen since King might start patrolling the skies once he hear commotions and could interact with Sanji at that point as he is only one who can catch him in the sky overall.
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Queen's look like generic swords, even Jack's look more special but King's looks straight like a Meito, probably a Saijo O Wazamono even.
I doubt he fights without it.
He strike the BMP Ship without using a sword and instead use Zoan powers. He might not rely on it much and your excuse on them fighting enemies with weapons have been debunked same as Zoro can beat anyone without a blade after Apoo and many others made him to knee down to their power ;).
 
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Nah Zoro opponent there especially he is attacking the female fans paired him with. Zoro need to show he can truly protect someone instead of going on his knees after getting hurt. That's his opponent for sure especially leading to Orochi's main fight while Sanji probably getting another T6H to face and then King or Queen on his end.
Sanji always protects the girl so sanji is more suitable against kanjuro here
 

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Sanji always protects the girl so sanji is more suitable against kanjuro here
Yeah, he is with Nami right now, so he got one, but Hiyori isn't with anyone and thus lead back to Zoro helping her again since he been doing for the arc. Saying Zoro shouldn't get involved with her now after you guys appealed him doing so and pairing them up, is stupid to say he shouldn't now. Just saying your post doesn't make sense.

Sanji got his own fights with King or Queen. Zoro vs Orochi and Kanjuro is destined.
 

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He strike the BMP Ship without using a sword and instead use Zoan powers. He might not rely on it much and your excuse on them fighting enemies with weapons have been debunked same as Zoro can beat anyone without a blade after Apoo and many others made him to knee down to their power ;).
Sanjino and Luffyone in 22 years of OP history havent had a major opponent focusing on sword in their fight and they never will...
How do you expect King to use a sword while flying lol?
 

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I've deleted some posts as you're having the same discussion about Zoro and Apoo across 2 other threads, and that is not even including the chapter discussion thread. You might want to consider creating a versus thread if you have any real points to discuss besides all this oneupmanships.

Also this is a Sanji character thread.
 

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I'd love Sanji vs Queen. I mean, he'll have to fight a YC soon, as the SH's are so setup to fight the Blackbeard pirates. So he'll have to be at YC level soon enough. The thing i wonder is why he'll fight in BB's crew. I thought Burgess, but he's boring now that we saw Sabo crush him. So maybe Franky can fight him in a wrestling match.

I think Pizarro interests me in a BB crew matchup for Sanji. A The Corrupt King vs the son of a corrupt king. Also from North Blue like Sanji. The only for sure fights are Luffy vs BB, Zoro vs Shiryu, Usop vs Van Auger, Chopper vs Doc Q. Nami vs Lafitte or Catarina. Lafitte is the navigator and sneaky. Catarina is a tricky fighter with her shifting. I can see both, or brook taking Lafitte since he seems to be a fencer as well. So Sanji vs either Pizarro or Burgess, but hopefully Pizarro.
 
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