Games Mafia Game 84 - MH Hydra - END GAME

[Copy Panda]

A long time ago on Hydra Vote Z

Spoiler: Flashback

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A relatively shorter while ago on Hydra Vote Z

Spoiler: [Before the presentation] Day 2 Belsaph arc got cut short by the Vankaku

One VanPlan in the backyard later

Spoiler: [Slide 1] - Night 2 The JoJo franchise collapses

Spoiler: [Slide 2] Day 3 Blackuchi bites the dust

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To be continued...

 

[Purity of Magi]

A bit of a flashback of this game

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Basically Takuans Lynch being discussed in a nutshell

Spoiler

Confirmed townie basically yet still pointed as suspicious

Spoiler

How to throw a game

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Deadpad talk:

How the game basically ended:

How to use logic and gain trust in Raven style

Spoiler

What have we learned?

Nothing.



Mafia game basically

Spoiler

 

[Farfalla]

Ah ok, we were actually tidy so it was easy to make the final updates. Here are the lists:

Spoiler: Roles

Santa Gifts (Permanent Role Changes):

• Mason
• Mason
• Doctor (Sane if Town)
• Spy (Sane)
• Spirit Medium

Spoiler: Actions

And yes mafia was pink just cause pink = pretty red

 

[GrySun]

They didn't know if there was a SK/Mentor or another mafia out there, so in one hand they're traitor seeking recruitment, in the other they're BG taking one for the team.

But they lose if they don‘t get recruited, why die for them?

 

[Farfalla]

The setup was more confusing than imbalanced, I'd argue. Made so more by circumstance than design.

Can't get behind Noble Traitor (how was he supposed to get out of a post-recruitment situation?) or Santa gifting Mason club cards, the rest seems mostly fine. Mafia played really well, we played really bad is my comprehensive analysis.

Np, I'm fine with subjective disagreement as well.

 

[GrySun]

Protecting people on the list won‘t help seek recruitment, and dying to a SK is just a bad move with no benefits.

 

[Farfalla]

But they lose if they don‘t get recruited, why die for them?

Maybe you'd have used that as the hint you weren't a real Traitor then :P

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I mean Naive Traitor always showed it was naive upon death, to clarify allegiance.
Now it makes more sense yes.

Ah missed this one: my bad, then.
Bleh not my single hosting mistake in this game either.

 

[Copy Panda]

I can't believe of all players to win this, it's the fcking Seiko hydra. The one person who kept spamming Seiko pictures in the PM won the game. Is there no justice in this world at all or what

 

[GrySun]

Maybe you'd have used that as the hint you weren't a real Traitor then :P

That makes no sense? You said BG Traitor would protect people on his list, I tell you he never would as there‘s no benefit, don‘t see what these words mean as a continuation.

 

[Purity of Magi]

I can't believe of all players to win this, it's the fcking Seiko hydra. The one person who kept spamming Seiko pictures in the PM won the game. Is there no justice in this world at all

#Brandishneverfails! #Seikoforthewin #Chillingingame

 

[GrySun]

I mean Naive Traitor always showed it was naive upon death, to clarify allegiance.
Now it makes more sense yes.

Did it? I don‘t recall but I don‘t think that‘s the way it should be done. Prolly another thing to vote on later and clarify in description.

 

[Hardy]

I can't believe of all players to win this, it's the fcking Seiko hydra. The one person who kept spamming Seiko pictures in the PM won the game. Is there no justice in this world at all

Should had seen it coming after they killed us day 2

 

[Copy Panda]

#Brandishneverfails! #Seikoforthewin #Chillingingame

Pages full of this shit, opening that PM scared me every single time

 

[Asako]

Did it? I don‘t recall but I don‘t think that‘s the way it should be done. Prolly another thing to vote on later and clarify in description.

Everytime naive traitor was inculded it said when they died they were, at least the game I played

 

[Farfalla]

That makes no sense? You said BG Traitor would protect people on his list, I tell you he never would as there‘s no benefit, don‘t see what these words mean as a continuation.

It was a brainfart as response cause I'm multitasking here x.x They were never mafia to start with and that's relevant about their concept, they were built to serve the town design and would win with them. And yeah, that still works as a hint to their real nature.

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Ok, driving time '-'

 

[Juviii]

Naive traitor: ready to die for their fam, even if they never notice them.

Real traitor: let's see what happens if I kill them all...

 

[GrySun]

It was a brainfart as response cause I'm multitasking here x.x They were never mafia to start with and that's relevant about their concept, they were built to serve the town design and would win with them. And yeah, that still works as a hint to their real nature.

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Ok, driving time '-'

Just wanna say that the role can never serve as a hint to the real nature. In this case we had Bodyguard as Real Traitor a few games back '-'

 

[Farfalla]

Just wanna say that the role can never serve as a hint to the real nature. In this case we had Bodyguard as Real Traitor a few games back '-'

If you says so

 

[Purity of Magi]

Everytime naive traitor was inculded it said when they died they were, at least the game I played

Oh, really? Which game was this exactly because as far as I remember, the games I have been in and spectated which included ''naive traitor'' (including the one I, Panda and Lawlett hosted), it has never been that way nor has it ever been said it should be that way and in all fairness it... it definitely shouldn't even be revealed if its naive or not. You are suppose to find out your sanity in the game or else this can be done with all roles that are influenced with a ''sanity aspect'' (insane/sane/naive/para spy/doc/det etc..) and be revealed when they are dead lmao. Either way those who that have done it that way have done it incorrectly, obviously lol.

 

[GrySun]

If you says so

Don't you agree? If there was even recent precedent of the role combo why should it be a hint at being naive?

Tho yeah this isn't important just wondering about the thought process.

 

[Farfalla]

Don't you agree? If there was even recent precedent of the role combo why should it be a hint at being naive?

Tho yeah this isn't important just wondering about the thought process.

Partially... cause I don't see what's bad in how it was used in this specific case c.c'

 

[GrySun]

Partially... cause I don't see what's bad in how it was used in this specific case c.c'

It's not badly used(as in Naive Traitor BG being a bad decision), just disagreed on some of your thoughts like it being good for town before he finds his sanity. Iirc Desin figured out they were naive already within the first day so that even mitigated that.

 

[Lambu]

Did it? I don‘t recall but I don‘t think that‘s the way it should be done. Prolly another thing to vote on later and clarify in description.

It did, its so unused that its hard to remember but RWBY game comes to mind.
Traitor isnt like Detective or Doctor as its sanity doesnt affect what the role does, but its whole allegiance. Not clarifying it makes it a Death Miller of sorts, or even worse since its harder to tell if its real or not.

Anyway, the point wasnt that, the thing is I was wrong. Balance is ok, just thought there were two traitors.