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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Collab poster by Kishimoto
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I'm really curious about the LCP and CP situation for MHA in 2021:
-One Piece is going to continue having many covers
-Jujutsu Kaisen is on the push road, so it will have many covers and cps too
-Dr.Stone has always had a lot of cps
-Chainsawman and WNL got a lot of cps but both are ending so that's open slots for other manga getting cps
-Mashle, Undead Unluck, Yozakura Family and Ayakashi Triangle have gotten a lot of cps in this year, the two first already had more cps than MHA, and the other 2 the same amount
-Of course, the Haikyuu-Kimetsu-Neverland trio got a lot of covers and cps, and we are already seeing Jujutsu Kaisen getting the covers slot and Mashle/UU/Yozakura/AT the cps stuff

The only manga in a similar situation of MHA would be Black Clover. Same amount of covers, MHA got 2 more LCPs and BC 3 more CPs. But again MHA in theory is the 2nd biggest Jump manga in current roster, both in sales and years serialized. Then why is MHA one of the manga in the roster with less amount of cps? We know the answer, Horikoshi isn't able to mantain a schedule including many cps (if I recall MHA was on a break before its last cover, right?)

What I want to say with all that? Yes, I'm wondering how 2021 would be for MHA in a situation where 5 manga that usually got covers aren't in the roster anymore, and UU/Mashle/Ayakashi aren't still enough established to get 3-4 covers (and Yozakura still hasn't had its 2nd cover). We are partly getting an answer though aka Jujutsu Kaisen suddenly getting a big boost of Jump covers. I guess One Piece and Dr.Stone will also get an increase of covers this 2021, and dunno how the situation is going to be for Black Clover too. I can see Build King getting covers in 2021 too if it survives.
 
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Second season maybe ?
 

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Kaijuu8 and Ghost Girl first volumes are supposed to be out in December right? could this issue will leak the covers?
pretty sure K8 will sell better, I know it's been a while but Ghost Girl have the infamous Viz curse written all over it

Moriking is being placed more decently than you would think,
THE PHOENIX OF SHONEN JUMP RETURNS

it will be confusing to know exactly if Kokosei is doing bad or is just getting the place in the back of the magazine but i do think is number 2, but even if is actually not doing "well" in the rankings, don't expect it to be canceled anytime soon, volume 1 doesn't even have a release date yet and they wouldn't axe Ryo Nakama this fast, but i think is purposedly in the back.
tbf, iirc they did make an announcement with a color page and on twitter that Isobee won't be ranked any more
and while I don't know if it there on purpose or not, if other people think it's not there on purpose I can't argue with them
 

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If someone is interested the December Volume List for Weekly Shonen Jump and Jump+

Shonen Jump
· Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings Volume #24 (END)
· Kimetsu no Yaiba 23 (END)
· Undead Unluck 4
· Ayakashi Triangle 2
· Phantom Seer 1

Jump+
· Jigokuraku 12
· 2.5D Seduction 7
· Matou Seihei no Slave 6
· How to Make Delicious Coffee 5
· Omukae ni Agarismashita 4
· Hokkaido Gals are Super Adorable! 4
· Kaijuu No. 8 1
· GHOST GIRL 1
 

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I'm really curious about the LCP and CP situation for MHA in 2021:
-I think MHA might get a cover in December for the popularity poll. Either issue 1 or 2.
-Then you have the ending of the current arc. If I remember correctly it was announced that it entered it's climax (correct me if I'm wrong) so it might get a cover for this.
-The anime is coming back in spring so it's definitely getting a cover
-And last there's the 7th anniversary.
That makes it 4 covers
 

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-I think MHA might get a cover in December for the popularity poll. Either issue 1 or 2.
-Then you have the ending of the current arc. If I remember correctly it was announced that it entered it's climax (correct me if I'm wrong) so it might get a cover for this.
-The anime is coming back in spring so it's definitely getting a cover
-And last there's the 7th anniversary.
That makes it 4 covers
I think first and second points can be the same cover though since is very likely both of them are happening at the same time.

Wondering if MHA will be able to get issue 1 or 2 covers. I still see them for Chainsawman anniversary and Dr.Stone anime. I hope MHA gets a cover though. If it doesn't get issue 1 or 2 cover it isn't getting any cover until March for the anime (since January-March is the chain of anniversary covers)
 

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Meh JJK again? so many stuff that they could give a cover, but well.

ToC "okay", Magu-chan rising out of nowhere from bottom to almost in the top 5 after all these weeks looks a bit weird but is getting a cp, so looks like is recovering, they could also do this with Cop & Dolphin since its been out of the bottom for weeks already.

Technically the chapter ranked for Yozakura would be 53, but is very hard to believe the part 2 of the hot spring would get this drop, it seems more suitable for 54 that is the fan contest result that is basically filler, but well, nothing to worry about.

For a series that is supposed to be canceled in like 2/3 chapters, Moriking is being placed more decently than you would think, and yes, like Mammo said, it will be confusing to know exactly if Kokosei is doing bad or is just getting the place in the back of the magazine but i do think is number 2, but even if is actually not doing "well" in the rankings, don't expect it to be canceled anytime soon, volume 1 doesn't even have a release date yet and they wouldn't axe Ryo Nakama this fast, but i think is purposedly in the back.

Not looking really good to Phantom Seer but i believe sales will be decent to good.
About kokosei it is very simple to know, roboko is doing better than magu chan and shakunetsu and has better positions.
If Nakano was looking for a new start, he did it.
This question of position has a lot to do with stability, after all isobe only started to be put in the background in 2015, because in 2014, after the first rank isobe varied a lot, reaching 3rd place.
 

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Jujutsu Kaisen Vol.1 Daily sales after the anime premiered




 

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Super Special News about KNY in WSJ #52 ?!!

 

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tbf, iirc they did make an announcement with a color page and on twitter that Isobee won't be ranked any more
and while I don't know if it there on purpose or not, if other people think it's not there on purpose I can't argue with them
People are in denial about kokosei, saying it is normal.

The same is with Corp and doulphin that sold poorly compared to the June series and may still sell less than hungry marie.
 

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@ScotchAianB anything regarding My Hero Academia project on issue 52 or something related?


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I'm interested in author comments this issue. Wondering if Tabata (who wasn't on previous issue and is the most social Jump author) or Oda will say hi back to Shimabukuro there.

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If Jujutsu Kaisen continues with that rhytm, 2021 sales rank is going to be fun.

Volume 1 sales have grown 11.5 times higher if you compare September 26th and 27th (the week before the anime began) with November 14th and 15th (1-2 days after episode 7)
 

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Jujutsu Kaisen Vol.1 Daily sales after the anime premiered




Do we have this same graph for other series?
 

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Late again. Oh well.

Build King: First impressions.
- The colour pages are quite interesting. At least the setting is imaginative.
- That.. does not look like a functional house. (Are those horns?)
- Well, at least it's sturdy. And the door actually works!
- I take it back. How did this moron survive here for so long?
- Again, the worldbuilding looks amazing.
- But the main character kind of sucks (so far he comes across as stupid, cliche and annoying). This is a problem.
- Oh, so he can be an adult. Nice sentiment there, though it's a bit weird that a story about building immediately makes the buildings obsolete by making them inferior to an unarmed child.
- Are you sure that's him? I'm half-and-half expecting this to be a ship full of slave traders or something.
- Why is your goal the Build Kings when you're not even trying to build things?

In short: Imaginative setting and a sort-of-orginal story idea, but the characters feel very cliche and the series immediately shoots itself in the foot by making the titular buildings less important than the battle prowess of the characters. (Though it did make me curious for the next chapter, so we'll see where it goes.)

OP: I thought Oda might do something special for the 1000th chapter, but it looks like we'll still be stuck in the same fight.

MHA: Nice twist at the end there. With such holes in your story, the audience won't be swayed for long.

Yozakura: This made me go "Wait, that's a female?!" twice in the same chapter. Not bad, though I don't really get the confidence at the very end.

Dr Stone: They remembered the Panama Canal! Pretty fun chapter, though I hope they will get off the boat next week. (Also lol@One Piece reference. Now I want them to stumble upon a library.)

Me & Roboco: It was doing pretty well, until Roboco pulled the completely unnecessary sexism card (seriously, HOW is having two girls a handicap for starting a fire?). Cute ending though.

JJK: Wtf. Also, when did he write this? It's too long for something you draw in an hour after realising you won't make the deadline. Did they have this lying around somewhere just in case?

Mashle: WELCOME BACK LANCE! I'm so glad you're still a character. And Abel is there too. Pretty entertaining chapter, as disjointed as it was.

Phantom Seer: I'm a little confused about the timing here. That training should have taken a lot longer than the fight, right? Regardless, that entrance was pretty cool. But I'd like an explanation about her powers.

AT: Nice! Good action, good strategy. I'm curious what's going to happen after this though, will we get character/plot development or just a monster of the week scenario?

Magu-chan: Yay body-shaming. (Was that a Broly reference?)

Cop & Dolphin: I'd scold him for bad parenting, but his plan actually kinda worked. Too bad he forgot what he was dealing with. (Does she know about her powers? Because that seems like something worth talking about.)

Moriking: Repeating the same joke over and over only works when the joke is really good. This one isn't.

UU: Aww, Juiz is party-pooping. I love the clash of philosophies. Also, are we getting a Western?

AB: Poor Chris. We are supposed to hate these girls, right? It's hard to tell sometimes.

HSFamily: What is this guy's problem?

OBO: Do they have to save every human they come across? If someone tried to blackmail me like that, I'd tell them to keep the murderous a***ole.

To fans of those series - are you liking how the current arcs are playing out? For Dr. Stone, the introduction of the latest girl has been an annoyance, but this entire expidition is doing nothing for me. It's a shame because I quite enjoyed the series when I was catching up, but following it weekly had been a bit of a bore.
I loved the part where Senku and Xeno became science-soulmates, but the latest travel chapters have been rather boring. I expect we'll be entering the next arc proper soon though.
 
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TOC time!
  • Really looking forward to seeing what Sakamoto Days has to offer, it looks very different from the rest of the magazine (I expect it'll be most similar to Chainsaw Man's level of violence).
  • 16 series ranked this week, nice.
  • Me & Roboco sitting comfortably at 4th place once more is great (that seems to be its most common position so far).
  • Magu-chan jumping up to 6th place is also very impressive; Yozakura Family falling to 9th isn't terrible but looks different than what we've recently seen
  • Agravity Boys is also nearly out of the bottom five... what a world we live in.
  • Yikes, since BTW doesn't count anymore we have the entire latest batch at the bottom 3. I hope Phantom Seer improves, fingers crossed the sales aren't abysmal; Our Blood Oath does not shock me; High School Family being last place is going to continue confusing everyone about whether this is due to popularity or it finding its place as the gag manga at the end of the magazine - I guess we'll only know as time go by and if it remains there for good without being cancelled.
  • Compared that to the batch that came before, yet again none of the four series are in the bottom.
 

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Jump Super Stages
· Weekly Shonen Jump: ONE PIECE, My Hero Academia, Black Clover, Dr. STONE, Jujutsu Kaisen.
· Jump SQ: New Prince of Tennis, World Trigger.
· Jump+: World's End Harem.
· V-Jump: Boruto, Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken.

Jump Studios
· ONE PIECE's 2nd National Knowledge King Final Battle
· Chainsaw Man
· BLEACH / BURN THE WITCH
· Haikyu!!
· The Promised Neverland
· Kimetsu no Yaiba
· Gintama
· Others...
 
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Sakamoto Days has my interest, looks like it could be lots of fun.

Aso the TOC is as crazy as always, now the entire AT/Magu/Shark/Roboco batch is out of the bottom lol. And Magu-Chan is even getting another CP
 
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