One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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As of now these topics are shelved due to repetitiveness or until the manga can present us with material to further discussions:

  1. Shanks v Mihawk
  2. Hand to hand fighters > Swordsmen
  3. Zoro > Luffy
  4. Zoro v Sanji
  5. Is Smoker a top 30 character?
  6. Mihawk's rank within the story
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  8. Katakuri > Kaido/Luffy/Etc.

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Also on a side note, how strong do you guys think Prime Ray was ? Pirate King level ?
Those translations are wrong and Rayliegh was just below Roger. Maybe a tier.

Admiral level at least
 
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Some people are interpreting the latest chapter to mean Kaido > WB
 

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Some people are interpreting the latest chapter to mean Kaido > WB
Are you referring to yourself?

Either way, literally no proof. People will spin anything to suit them.
 

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Honestly, I don't think Luffy's that dumb, he's just reckless and does and says things that come to his mind due to "no ragrets" way of tackling life.
Luffy definitely is textbook stupid, he is very good at reading people and their emotions.

I mean, we agree with Katakuri, but I'm talking about Cracker against Sanji or Zoro.
From what we've seen, I'd definitely say Cracker beats them. This will probably change soon
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In this very thread people were going up in arms when I said Katakuri wasn’t a top tier. Now people are saying Marco isn’t one ? LMAO
First thing first, Marco>Katakuri. Secondly, was any of those people me?
 

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Luffy does act like a dumbass a lot of times, but he can also be smart and wise when he wants to be or when the situation calls for it.

But anyway, I can't believe Zoro would lose to Cracker. Sanji is a possibility or likely, but Zoro's swords attacks seem too powerful.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if he was the top commander of all the Emperor commanders. Nor would I mind.
Considering Katakuri is said to have never lost a fight, and Luffy earned the title of 5th Emperor after defeating Katakuri, I suspect he's the strongest member of any Yonko crew.
 

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He is.
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Top tier =/= God tier.
That is highly subjective
 

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I think Luffy is the weakest of the Top Tiers so for me Katakuri is just shy of Top Tier. But someone else might think Doflamingo is.... it just depends on the person
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How? There are god tiers in a series and there are top tiers.


Are you really going to argue that Katakuri is a mid tier?
I'm sorry, but yes. I think Luffy is the minimum of a Top Tier.
 

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I think Luffy is the weakest of the Top Tiers so for me Katakuri is just shy of Top Tier. But someone else might think Doflamingo is.... it just depends.
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I'm sorry, but yes. I think Luffy is the minimum of a Top Tier.
Luffy is one as well.
 

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Luffy is one as well.
On that we agree. Its all about where your draw the line. For you who do you think the weakest of the top tiers is?
 

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On that we agree. Its all about where your draw the line. For you who do you think the weakest of the top tiers is?
Probably Katakuri or some other commander.
 

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Katakuri is easily top tier, if not on the same tier as Luffy. Him losing to Luffy on purpose doesn't change that, especially when Luffy had to retreat. I don't get why he's being downplayed, especially when he's said to either not have lost a battle or never been on his back. Even Kaidou was said to have lost multiple times, and he one-shot the fuck out of Luffy.
 
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