Games Mafia Game 87 - Baccano! - END GAME

[Farfalla]

On the RT kill topic, maybe they killed Demon with it not to leave notices and failed to kill Demon's target.

 

[GrySun]

Thing about Lambu is that he's better than claiming Jesus in a game like this, sometimes very odd things are the truth and not an inconsistency like when in another game Pom got a very weird Spirit Medium result that didn't make sense given the knowledge we had.

Still should be easy for him to come back if we give him the Blackuchi treatment since he's real Jesus.

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@desin24 went all silent after I revealed huh

 

[Raven]

I'm fine with lynching either Lambu or Desin.

 

[Shad]

Is this the reveal order we agreed is best?

@gnut (bg) -> @Organizized (bg) -> @Gajeel (banshee) -> @desin24 / @Vandred (hoes) -> @Farfalla (spy)

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Also if you get a notification about RT actions please do share as well.

 

[Farfalla]

Is this the reveal order we agreed is best?

@gnut (bg) -> @Organizized (bg) -> @Gajeel (banshee) -> @desin24 / @Vandred (hoes) -> @Farfalla (spy)

No, I think they should use whichever order, stopped seeing a reason for the BGs to go first. I guess Desin still disagrees since he didn't reply to my tag...

 

[GrySun]

Say it's 6 mafias at start, they would allocate at least 2 for the RT kill, maybe even 3 if they got scared by the Mason group. That left 3-4 members able to do it. If we assume Hardy was their killer(no reason not to use Apprentice unless you want to use Janitor or Robber) then that's one less person that never did the RT stuff, so 2-3 members. If they used those to kill DD and fail then that should be it, we should never see a 2nd kill again unless a townie kills someone, but a proper townie has a bunch of people that are suspect to kill so it should be apparent it's a townie RT kill.

Unless DD is lying they may have really used their 2nd kill up, and with it being usable a lot less times than I expected that just makes me believe even less in all the heavy town protection.

 

[Raven]

I wonder if you even considered for a second Hll being a mole. Would have a good laugh if he came to backstab you at some point

lmao, I have a surprise for you post the game, It will make you look bad. Don't worry. just remember the date of this post

 

[Shad]

Funny that xnut and bel could technically suicide by using the RT kill xD

 

[Baka Taichou]

btw @Shad , who do you think would be the best lynch choice for today?

I kinda trust you and Raven the most so far, raven especially after the Hardy stunt yesterday, but today she wants to go for desin, and I'm not entirely sure about that, and that's because I have a theory in which the possibility of duplicate roles to actually be possible.

And that's because there are so many blocking and protecting and killing actions because of the RT, that can be used by both parties, but can definitely be more advantageous to mafia since they're unknown to us and free to choose targets during the night, whereas we on the other hand need to figure out who's worth protecting and have high chances of protecting the same targets with more than one RT which is such a waste, because if we straight out claim to protect someone in particular mafia will do the math and make out who to kill instead....

So with that in mind, townies having 2 spies 2 hoes and 2 bps isn't that farfetched in my mind. Correct me if my thinking is farfetched.

So if we go for desin and he proves to be prostitute, then welp, what do we do next? kill vandred, and if vandred proves to be also prostitute we're fucked, we just killed both blocking roles.
There also seems to not be any hiders in the game so someone hiding behind me or DD at night to avoid death is also not an option... and we're out in the open so obviously won't be killed by night. And while I'd see it as an advantage to be BP right now, there's a high chance one of us will be eventually lynched, and if you choose me and I end up BP like I claim then what? kill DD too? what if he's also BP? (or vice versa) and from the way he's been playing he's definitely not been his usual troll self, but then again after he got lynched last game while being townie, he might have decided to change his approach on the way he's playing (or using it as a cover for his mafia play), and I know I am what I claim to be so yeah...
And ofc same thing goes for second spy claim, as the first spy is already dead....

And in ending of my theory, the double roles can be possible also because of the level of distrust double claims will inflict. Making it more likely for them to be lynched than night killed.

Anyway, my two cents, I'm gonna go with either Shad or Raven's decisions today.

 

[Raven]

Funny that xnut and bel could technically suicide by using the RT kill xD

How?

 

[Baka Taichou]

On the RT kill topic, maybe they killed Demon with it not to leave notices and failed to kill Demon's target.

that's if they knew who demon's target was

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Thing about Lambu is that he's better than claiming Jesus in a game like this, sometimes very odd things are the truth and not an inconsistency like when in another game Pom got a very weird Spirit Medium result that didn't make sense given the knowledge we had.

Still should be easy for him to come back if we give him the Blackuchi treatment since he's real Jesus.

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@desin24 went all silent after I revealed huh

killing jesus should be done early in game to reveal doubt, so he has time to come back.

 

[Lambu]

lmao, I have a surprise for you post the game, It will make you look bad. Don't worry. just remember the date of this post

Why? Because you are the mole?
Thanks for presenting the possibility, I thought you wouldn't have killed Hardy like that if you were with them but yeah, maybe you pulled a demon or something.

 

[desin24]

Thing about Lambu is that he's better than claiming Jesus in a game like this, sometimes very odd things are the truth and not an inconsistency like when in another game Pom got a very weird Spirit Medium result that didn't make sense given the knowledge we had.

Still should be easy for him to come back if we give him the Blackuchi treatment since he's real Jesus.

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@desin24 went all silent after I revealed huh

Necromancer is certainly an interesting role to claim and I am looking forward to your targets and results.
I agree that Jesus while unlikely is certainly not impossible.

I went silent cause I was cooking lol. @Farfalla did you get a spy result and was it on me or Vandred by any chance?

 

[Baka Taichou]

so him revealing so late....seems a bit off, but I'm not saying his claim isn't true.

 

[desin24]

btw @Shad

So if we go for desin and he proves to be prostitute, then welp, what do we do next? kill vandred, and if vandred proves to be also prostitute we're fucked, we just killed both blocking roles.
There also seems to not be any hiders in the game so someone hiding behind me or DD at night to avoid death is also not an option... and we're out in the open so obviously won't be killed by night. And while I'd see it as an advantage to be BP right now, there's a high chance one of us will be eventually lynched, and if you choose me and I end up BP like I claim then what? kill DD too? what if he's also BP? (or vice versa) and from the way he's been playing he's definitely not been his usual troll self, but then again after he got lynched last game while being townie, he might have decided to change his approach on the way he's playing (or using it as a cover for his mafia play), and I know I am what I claim to be so yeah...
And ofc same thing goes for second spy claim, as the first spy is already dead....

Which is why I hope that Farfalla is a real spy and can bring some light into the situation.

 

[GrySun]

you choose me and I end up BP like I claim

Now this kind of wording really sounds fake to me. You are BP, yet you say you claim it as if you aren't. May be reading too much into the text but this bothers me.

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Ok sakura so lets assume all double roles are legit, who are 5 names you could name to be mafia?

 

[Baka Taichou]

Now this kind of wording really sounds fake to me. You are BP, yet you say you claim it as if you aren't. May be reading too much into the text but this bothers me.

i'm talking from the other player's perspective. for you it's a claim. please read the whole text and stop taking chunks out of context. I said I know I aim what I claim to be.

 

[Lambu]

Now this kind of wording really sounds fake to me. You are BP, yet you say you claim it as if you aren't. May be reading too much into the text but this bothers me.

Was about to point it out

Also what do you think about that last quote of Raven to me Gry? Is she Demon 2.0? lmao

 

[Raven]

Why? Because you are the mole?
Thanks for presenting the possibility, I thought you wouldn't have killed Hardy like that if you were with them but yeah, maybe you pulled a demon or something.

you think i would throw hardy under the bus if i were mafia. lmao. nice brain you have. well suits a pigeon

 

[GrySun]

Was about to point it out

Also what do you think about that last quote of Raven to me Gry? Is she Demon 2.0? lmao

Idk what there could possibly be to reveal in a "gotcha!" other than her being Mafia Mason, but I have difficulties believing that with how she lynched Hardy, and her current suspects I certainly also agree with.