One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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7. Law having CoC currently.
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[LadyVados]

I found this video and think it was interesting.

 

[Pirate Queen]

I wonder why...

 

[LadyVados]

Kata was extremely durable and Crack I don't consider high/top tier. I'm talking YC1 and above

He lost to what 17 hits from Luffy (most of them in Base)

 

[Pirate Queen]

He lost to what 17 hits from Luffy (most of them in Base)

They fought for 12 hours+ he did not lose from 17 hits. Can you atleast pretend to not be a troll?

 

[LadyVados]

They fought for 12 hours+ he did not lose from 17 hits. Can you atleast pretend to not be a troll?

Ah yes. I'm losing the argument so I'll call the other person a troll. i Am VEry SMaRt

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And it was 11+ hours of Kata beating Luffy up.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Ah yes. I'm losing the argument so I'll call the other person a troll. i Am VEry SMaRt

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And it was 11+ hours of Kata beating Luffy up.

You think King = Big Mom and you think you aren't a troll?

 

[LadyVados]

You think King = Big Mom and you think you aren't a troll?

Marco put up a good fight against BM and King is stronger than him.

 

[albertwv]

Speaking of Katakuri and Crackers' fights that lasted over 10 hours.
How long do you think Zolo and Sanji's fights will be? An hour, two, 10? Only natural for them to take that long.
As well as with Luffy's yonko fight should take minimum a day. Not enough time to stop Kaido from dropping Onigashima on Wano.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Marco put up a good fight against BM and King is stronger than him.

Baseless

 

[LadyVados]

I wonder why...

As if you wouldn't like a video saying Rubber Jesus would be the strongest One Piece character ever

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Speaking of Katakuri and Crackers' fights that lasted over 10 hours.
How long do you think Zolo and Sanji's fights will be? An hour, two, 10? Only natural for them to take that long.
As well as with Luffy's yonko fight should take minimum a day. Not enough time to stop Kaido from dropping Onigashima on Wano.

15 minutes

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Baseless

Read 993 again

 

[Pirate Queen]

Speaking of Katakuri and Crackers' fights that lasted over 10 hours.
How long do you think Zolo and Sanji's fights will be? An hour, two, 10? Only natural for them to take that long.
As well as with Luffy's yonko fight should take minimum a day. Not enough time to stop Kaido from dropping Onigashima on Wano.

Nah, neither King or Queen are at 100% thanks to Marco so I doubt it will last that long. Maybe a few minutes shorter than Luffy throwing the finishing blow against Kaido

 

[LadyVados]

Nah, neither King or Queen are at 100% thanks to Marco so I doubt it will last that long. Maybe a few minutes shorter than Luffy throwing the finishing blow against Kaido

It'll be pretty short so Zoro has time to go and throw the finishing blow against Kaido to avenge his father.

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Marco clashed with Akainu and held him off.

King is stronger than Marco. Big Mom is weaker than Akainu.

There is no way the difference between them can be especially big.

 

[kkck]

Marco fought and held back king and queen for hours... While marco couldn't win against them it's a pretty safe bet that in any other scenario he'd be able to take on either. Akainu simply wasn't yonko level at marineford. If he is yonko level now it's because he grew stronger over the timeskip... which is perfectly possible.

 

[Nie Li]

Can't you say that about any high/top tier? I can't think of one who isn't an endurance/durable monster. Even weak Whitebeard needs to tank countless hits before finally succumbing to his wounds

Just like every YC1 has CoO and aren't necessarily bad at it but Katakuri is simply beyond every other YC we have seen so far in that regard.

If they were just as durable as any other in their tier it would be pointless to point it out, but it's being highlighted as something special even for Ancient Zoan users (which were also generally highlighted for this but I do agree some of them (not all) have been disappointing in that regard).

 

[Pirate Queen]

Just like every YC1 has CoO and aren't necessarily bad at it but Katakuri is simply beyond every other YC we have seen so far in that regard.

If they were just as durable as any other in their tier it would be pointless to point it out, but it's being highlighted as something special even for Ancient Zoan users (which were also generally highlighted for this but I do agree some of them (not all) have been disappointing in that regard).

The only ancient Zoan living up to the hype so far has been Ulti in my opinion. Outside of that i haven't seen anything that puts them above regular strong Zoans.

Even the fodder awakened zoans from Impel Down seemed more threatening

 

[Nie Li]

The only ancient Zoan living up to the hype so far has been Ulti in my opinion. Outside of that i haven't seen anything that puts them above regular strong Zoans.

Even the fodder awakened zoans from Impel Down seemed more threatening

Ulti and Jack to the very least, and I'd throw a bone to P1 as well.

Sasaki, Black Maria and Who's Who's endurance was a joke.

Queen's and King's so far aren't bad, but my opinion of them may change depending of how easily they go down now.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Ulti and Jack to the very least, and I'd throw a bone to P1 as well.

Sasaki, Black Maria and Who's Who's endurance was a joke.

Queen's and King's so far aren't bad, but my opinion of them may change depending of how easily they go down now.

Fuck I forgot Jack. He really sent the standard... but he was also a Yonko Commander.

He is certainly the gold standard for Ancient Zoan durability.

I think they go down fairly quickly... and for sure quicker than Jack had fallen (and he's actually still up) so no matter their performance they won't be able to prove they are more durable than him. He's been going non stop.

Nearly soloing a majority of the Sulong Mink Army is just far too impressive a feat.

It's funny that he has proven to be a bigger assessment to Kaido than either King (who can't do a single competent thing) or Queen (who single handled fucked the Beast Pirates over by openly calling them useless)

 

[LadyVados]

Akainu simply wasn't yonko level at marineford.

I disagree with this.

While he may have gotten stronger he was definitely yonko level at Marineford. Whitebeard's corpse can attest to that.

 

[M3J]

Marco fought and held back king and queen for hours... While marco couldn't win against them it's a pretty safe bet that in any other scenario he'd be able to take on either. Akainu simply wasn't yonko level at marineford. If he is yonko level now it's because he grew stronger over the timeskip... which is perfectly possible.

Even if he wasn't Emperor level, he was hella close to it to be able to damage Whitebeard significantly and survive his attacks and continue fighting. I mean, how many fighters can say they dealt a significant damage to an Emperor? Survived their strong and angry attacks?

 

[grey matter]

Marco clashed with Akainu and held him off.

King is stronger than Marco. Big Mom is weaker than Akainu.

There is no way the difference between them can be especially big.

How is King > Marco? Marco got 2v1'd, held them for hours and he's still not down.

I don't know what's up with that character, he seems to be somewhat trolling. He was seemingly down for the count, but got up soon after, healed Zoro and decided to sit back? Weird guy

Marco honestly seems to be the strongest Yonko commander.

Just like every YC1 has CoO and aren't necessarily bad at it but Katakuri is simply beyond every other YC we have seen so far in that regard.

If they were just as durable as any other in their tier it would be pointless to point it out, but it's being highlighted as something special even for Ancient Zoan users (which were also generally highlighted for this but I do agree some of them (not all) have been disappointing in that regard).

What is CoO? Observation Haki?