Chapter Tower of God Chapter 515 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower of God Chapter 515 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[Pro Factor]

No it's not. The curse of the 13MS is what he came up with. Zahard really can't have kids with most people. So far it seems only the female Irregulars and Princesses are able to conceive a child with him.

I'm aware of that,but there is a possibility that this was also made up by Zahard,because there is a real chance that Wangnan is his kid. Oh well I guess we will find out.

 

[lianecel]

I still cant understand of the way adori think, she really said she wanna go at total war againts PB Family,

Ok i know military is strong, but unless zahard act by himself ,who tf they expect to square up again gustang?? Its like one move of gustang and he will anihillate a whole squadron

Adori may be strong but she is still not an irregular, we already know that FH and zahard already at ranker level when they ar D rank regular, while adori get that achievement when she was A rank regular, thats like earth and sky...

 

[Cinera]

Anyway, I think this was a pretty nice touch by SIU.

The end of Season 3 Episode 48 was Maschenny and Jinsung arriving at the Nest.

Maschenny tells Jinsung that the fight's just getting started, and the last panel is Maschenny's ship and the Snek:

50 chapters later, the end of Season 3 Episode 98 is Baam and the rest of the Jinsung rescue team arriving at the Nest.

Baam calls out to his master.

The last panel is again Maschenny's ship and the Snek:

I'm not sure if it's deliberate on his part, let alone that it means anything special, but it was still something pretty neat.

 

[King Dryst]

I hope Baam can muster up enough spine to be extremely uncooperative with regards to whatever the schemers around him are about to get up to in the coming chapters. He really needs to stop allowing other people to tell him what to do all the time.

 

[Cinera]

Hon is confirmed to be the strongest after Zahard. For the others it's not clear.

Arie Hon was never said to be the strongest after Zahard. That's very ubiquitous headcanon, but it's headcanon nonetheless.

What's canon is that Eduan is thd strongest in melee combat among the Family Heads (alongside Hon and Yurin):

Yuri took what, 400/500 years to achieve just HR level?

200 years to become a Ranker and < a 100 years after that to become a High Ranker.

 

[kkck]

I still cant understand of the way adori think, she really said she wanna go at total war againts PB Family,

Ok i know military is strong, but unless zahard act by himself ,who tf they expect to square up again gustang?? Its like one move of gustang and he will anihillate a whole squadron

Adori may be strong but she is still not an irregular, we already know that FH and zahard already at ranker level when they ar D rank regular, while adori get that achievement when she was A rank regular, thats like earth and sky...

How i understand this is that adori was given an order and she is following it. In a way this is a continuation of the battle at the final station....


Also, there is a caveat in the order. Iirc the order was to destroy the po bidao family... but depending on how you look at it that doesn't necessarily have to include gustang, who is invincible as far as the zahard and lpb family is concerned. The zahard family is stronger than the po bidao family and if you add the lo po bia family then thats actually an important edge over them.

 

[Theorist05]

Wangnan disagrees.

But one of the princess could very well be his birth mother.

 

[Cinera]

I hope Baam can muster up enough spine to be extremely uncooperative with regards to whatever the schemers around him are about to get up to in the coming chapters. He really needs to stop allowing other people to tell him what to do all the time.

And how would that uncooperativeness manifest? I don't think Baam is in a position to do that. The best thing for him to do would be to grab Jinsung and get out as quickly as possible before Lord Lo Po Bia arrives.

That isn't feasible, but it would be ideal. Failing that, he would need to expedite the process as much as he can. This probably implies cooperating with whatever Maschenny demands when they finally meet her.

I still cant understand of the way adori think, she really said she wanna go at total war againts PB Family,

Ok i know military is strong, but unless zahard act by himself ,who tf they expect to square up again gustang?? Its like one move of gustang and he will anihillate a whole squadron

Adori may be strong but she is still not an irregular, we already know that FH and zahard already at ranker level when they ar D rank regular, while adori get that achievement when she was A rank regular, thats like earth and sky...

I don't think the order to annihilate the Po Bidau Family includes Gustang.

How i understand this is that adori was given an order and she is following it. In a way this is a continuation of the battle at the final station....


Also, there is a caveat in the order. Iirc the order was to destroy the po bidao family... but depending on how you look at it that doesn't necessarily have to include gustang, who is invincible as far as the zahard and lpb family is concerned. The zahard family is stronger than the po bidao family and if you add the lo po bia family then thats actually an important edge over them.

Adori was overruled. The Administration decided that the Zahard Army should not fight any of the 10 Families directly. They asked the Lo Po Bia Family to wage war on the Po Bidau Family in their stead.

 

[King Dryst]

And how would that uncooperativeness manifest? I don't think Baam is in a position to do that.

Honestly? I don't even care if it's a good move. I just want him to start doing his own shit and upsetting the board, instead of being a tepid little follower who does whatever Mister Koon tells him to.

Grabbing Jinsung and daring Maschenny to do something about it would be epic.

An Irregular should not wear a collar and leash, period. This chapter reminded me of how much I dislike Baam being so compliant all the time. He just sat down and shut up when ordered to, and it looked pathetic.

 

[Cinera]

Grabbing Jinsung and daring Maschenny to do something about it would be epic.

He'll probably have to get past her to see Jinsung in the first place, but demanding she hand over Jinsung or else...

Well, I'd love to see the fight that resulted from that.

 

[King Dryst]

He'll probably have to get past her to see Jinsung in the first place, but demanding she hand over Jinsung or else...

Common sense would dictate that seeing him would be a prerequisite to even entertain the notion of speaking with her.

 

[Cinera]

Common sense would dictate that seeing him would be a prerequisite to even entertain the notion of speaking with her.

Fair enough. Regardless, trying to take Jinsung by force is begging for a fight.

 

[King Dryst]

Fair enough. Regardless, trying to take Jinsung by force is begging for a fight.

I'm in for it. Baam is not some child of the Tower who has to play along with these games and schemes, and it's long past time he recognized and acted like it.

 

[salo14419]

I cant wait for Baam to get his ass whooped again by enemies that should be below White's tier.
Seeing him struggle in any upcoming fight even with normal Rankers.
Like SIU literally reduced the amount of people that can even put a decent fight with him to less than 100 characters but he will manage to humilliate Baam somehow.

 

[Anzere1stclass]

Baam is surrounded by untrustworthy people
1 Dorky snake hair guy
2 Armor guy named Kel i think?
3 Errand boy Asensio
4 Vincente I'm just biding my time
5 Khun gets added for helping resurrect White behind Baam's back

Most friend of bam seem to be untrustworthy shibisu used bam name as viole to save endorsi from her own mistake hatz, anak helped shibisu to do It endorsi same she wanted to make bam his slave just to save her life who she put herself in danger hwa ryun lied to bam on the last station and helped White get back his power exactly like khun did and everyone hide Akraptor and prince death in the end every friends of bam are untrustworthy in a way

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If Jahad is unable to see, he’ll most likely be forced to move/come out of hiding!

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Again some FHs just want to continue to climb and are frustrated with Jahad’s decision. Jahad does not need to die for their goal to be accomplished! Luslec does not care about opening up the tower! I guess you can say Baam’s growth via Gustang’s ventures was a by-product

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Is immortality a spell? I thought it was a permission granted by the administrator? Not sure how people can compare that to the actual spell for the 2nd wall LOL!

Luslec care about the door to the 135th floor remember that he served V and arlen in the war to get the key to the 135th floor fug hidden objective is probably not the death of zahard but to get the keys

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So far what Asenio is saying only makes partial sense. Zahard is giving everything up for Lo Po Bia to fight against the Po Bidau for the Zahard Army . He let the 5th corps be destroyed and is giving Baam to Lo Po Bia with nothing in return. Furthermore, such a scheme seems impossible to hide. A lot of eggs in one basket considering we are far far away from an actual fight between Lo Po Bia to fight against the Po Bidau and Lyboric is a Po Bia / Khun. I thin Asenio is hiding something or at the min, leaving something out. We already know Zahard cant see the fate of irregulars. Thus I cant see this strategy working without something a little more to count on in such a huge battle

Lyborick is a po bidau not lo po bia

 

[Kunrin]

Indeed zahard can fuck whoever he want, but the point is zahard cant have a children cause zahard blood is too strong, THAT IS THE REASON WHY ZAHARD PRINCESS EXIST BRO

That was an excuse Zahard and Gustang came up with to silence the people asking for an heir. I mean, it sounds like BS, how could almost all the other family heads have kids then? They are close to Zahard's level. And now, we are seeing a bunch of Zahard's clones (sons) running around.
Unless there's another reason we don't know about.

 

[Anzere1stclass]

tog fight are like harry potter.
just two people shooting magic beam at each other from a distance

I would say more like star wars everything about tog is like star Wars universe bam is kinda like luke Skywalker

 

[Kunrin]

I hope Baam can muster up enough spine to be extremely uncooperative with regards to whatever the schemers around him are about to get up to in the coming chapters. He really needs to stop allowing other people to tell him what to do all the time.

I agree that Bam needs more agency, but kicking up a fuss now won't help.

 

[Anzere1stclass]

Hasn’t been built up. White and Hon have had a story thousands of years in the build up. The only other I can see is Karaka killing his father

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There is. White fights his father as Baam fights the guardian. They both win or they both lose

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Hoaquin doesn’t have the patience or foresight that Vincente does. Nor the raw talent of Abelda. Vicente is the one who came up with the spell after all while Hoaquin was moping

Vincente-White will be a much greater threat than Hoaquin-White ever was to the Royals

stay loyal to Baam, feast on the carnage. Eat FH souls as they fall. Focus only on Hon

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Watch Rachel be gorgeous and kill a high ranker

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I too am very excited for TOG. The game is afoot

Karaka killing his father?? By father you mean zahard nah that's bam who will do it's

 

[King Dryst]

I agree that Bam needs more agency, but kicking up a fuss now won't help.

It would send a clear message.

'This is my fucking story and all of you are just characters in it.'