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Is there anyone passionate enough to reread NNT and find all the hints on the bottles? :arf

I don't think Nanashi is related to Elizabeth at all. Meliodas saw him too and he didn't react. Nanashi must be one of the knights who defected now that I think about it.
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Like I said, this is just a speculation. There's absolutely no evidence supporting it.
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Coincidence? I guess not!



Speaking of "Falling Stars", remember this?
what chapters are those manga panels from?
 

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I see where you're coming from, but it's stated in chapter 6 that Camelot was obliterated by a single attack from the leader of the demons and that Arthur went into hiding after that. It's a bit weird how this supposedly happened 16 years ago even though the Demon King was defeated around 18 years ago, but that's probably just a minor error on Nakaba's part. Ardbeg's story reinforces this idea, because in chapter 36 he hints at losing his daughter during the holy war and in chapter 38 we learn that it was the result of some demons attacking his village. Arthur recruited him immediately after that, which would have been in the aftermath of the holy war. I don't know how Arthur turned evil that quickly, but that's what the timeline suggests. It's worth noting that when he recruited Ardbeg, Arthur was wearing the same outfit he wore in Cursed by Light. That movie takes place 6 months after the defeat of Demon King and in that movie we see Arthur building a massive graveyard in the ruins of Camelot. The castle, presumably Camelot, where the Knights of Chaos gather in chapter 6 is like this mini planet floating in the void, so instead of rebuilding the kingdom like normal it seems that Arthur just created a secret kingdom inside some kind of a pocket dimension. As far as most people are concerned, Camelot is just gone at this point.
I am inferring things, so I could be wrong, but it does seem like much more happen then where we left off. Yeah, we were told that by Donny the story of what happen with Camelot, which was then counter by Tristan stating it did still exist. Given the knowledge he has shown so far, it seems like Tristan would know what he's talking about and what the general public like Donny knows is false. While the timeline could be due to a mistake, it could also be when the event that changed Arthur happen. That would fit with what we know regarding the schism with his knights that caused some of them to flee/cut ties. I guess Ardbeg's flashback could have happen before sixteen years ago, but that would suggest that there were demons running around destroying things some time after that war ended, since Arthur was unconscious til Merlin made him into a vessel for Chaos. It seems unlikely there was widespread demon attacks like that. And I haven't seen the film, so I don't know what happens in it, but I presume that Arthur wasn't shown as opposing the other races, which was a specific point of Arthur's offer to Ardbeg.
 

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I think it's unlikely that Arthur is going to remain evil in the long term. This shift in his personality is very radical and we already know that something shady happened in the past, because Varghese accused Ironside of somehow betraying Arthur despite the fact that Ironside clearly still serves him. I interpret that as Ironside playing a part in Arthur's moral downfall. It also doesn't make much sense to make the strongest character in the series one of the first major antagonists in the series. Then there's of course the more meta reason that the Knights of the Apocalypse are named after King Arthur's most famous knights, which seems like foreshadowing to me.
Ooooh I have such little knowledge about the Arthurian legends but I am very happy to hear this. My spirit is lifted. Thank you so much!
 

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It is French and this is what was said.

" By the way: Tristan, the guy on the cover under the dust jacket, is the most powerful character of my very first series, "Rising Impact". He doesn't appear in this collection, but he is somehow related to meliodas from "Seven Deadly Sin."
I just saw this. Yes it is what it says but how does it make sense? Rising Impact is a sports manga AFAIK. There were fights in the manga?
 

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I just saw this. Yes it is what it says but how does it make sense? Rising Impact is a sports manga AFAIK. There were fights in the manga?
in the "Rising Impact" Tristan is the most powerful character, not the MC (Gawain)
in the "Nanatsu" Arthur is the most powerful character, not the MC (Meliodas)
in the "Four Knights" Lancelot is the most powerful character, not the MC (Percival)
 

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in the "Rising Impact" Tristan is the most powerful character, not the MC (Gawain)
in the "Nanatsu" Arthur is the most powerful character, not the MC (Meliodas)
in the "Four Knights" Lancelot is the most powerful character, not the MC (Percival)
How is it related to what I asked? Lancelot isn't the most powerful character anyway, it's still Arthur.
 
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in the "Rising Impact" Tristan is the most powerful character, not the MC (Gawain)
in the "Nanatsu" Arthur is the most powerful character, not the MC (Meliodas)
in the "Four Knights" Lancelot is the most powerful character, not the MC (Percival)
Lmao arthur one taps
 

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I'm finally getting into this spin-off since Lancelot revealed himself. I'm glad he looks more like Ban now. Hats off to any of you that guessed he was Sin, especially with the fox theme of Ban's family. I can't wait to see Tristan and the 4th Knight now.
 

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in the "Rising Impact" Tristan is the most powerful character, not the MC (Gawain)
in the "Nanatsu" Arthur is the most powerful character, not the MC (Meliodas)
in the "Four Knights" Lancelot is the most powerful character, not the MC (Percival)
Naw I doubt when you have a power like hope (how can you gauge something as abstract as a concept such as hope?), basically the character can be however Nakaba want it to be lol.
 

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in the "Rising Impact" Tristan is the most powerful character, not the MC (Gawain)
in the "Nanatsu" Arthur is the most powerful character, not the MC (Meliodas)
in the "Four Knights" Lancelot is the most powerful character, not the MC (Percival)
Even if we removed Arthur that still might not be the strongest. Most important characters haven’t even shown up yet
 

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It's a little weird to me that Sleipnir barely did anything in this fight despite being a mythical beast. I wonder if the goal was just to introduce the concept of a flying horse so that it can be used later on? In the legends, Gawain owns a warhorse called Gringolet that was apparently very skilled in battle. Normal horses can't survive the kind of fights this series has, but perhaps a particularly powerful mythical steed just might be able to pull it off? From nigh impossible to neigh impossible. If it turns out that Gawain is the last of the Knights of the Apocalypse, a flying horse would enable him to fly like the other KOA. Percy has his cape, Tristan has the potential to form wings and Lance can always learn to levitate like Elaine, but Gawain would need something more than just Sunshine to take to the skies. This would also fit nicely with the idea of the last KOA being a half-giant half-human, because Sleipnir was a little too big for a normal human to comfortably ride it, but simultaneously a little too small for an actual giant.

I am inferring things, so I could be wrong, but it does seem like much more happen then where we left off. Yeah, we were told that by Donny the story of what happen with Camelot, which was then counter by Tristan stating it did still exist. Given the knowledge he has shown so far, it seems like Tristan would know what he's talking about and what the general public like Donny knows is false. While the timeline could be due to a mistake, it could also be when the event that changed Arthur happen. That would fit with what we know regarding the schism with his knights that caused some of them to flee/cut ties. I guess Ardbeg's flashback could have happen before sixteen years ago, but that would suggest that there were demons running around destroying things some time after that war ended, since Arthur was unconscious til Merlin made him into a vessel for Chaos. It seems unlikely there was widespread demon attacks like that. And I haven't seen the film, so I don't know what happens in it, but I presume that Arthur wasn't shown as opposing the other races, which was a specific point of Arthur's offer to Ardbeg.
When Lancelot said that Camelot still exists, he also said "you can't get there by normal means", which suggests that he was talking about the weird castle floating in space that appeared in that same chapter. Donny's not wrong, it's just that the general public only knows about the physical Camelot which indeed no longer exists. He does mention that Arthur is said to be in hiding, but normal people have no way of knowing about the existence of some kind of a separate dimension. The destruction of Camelot that Donny is referring to was the Demon King wiping out the kingdom, and that timeline also fits with some demons attacking Ardbeg's village. There's no way that incident happened 2 years after the DK's defeat because Ardbeg is specifically talking about the holy war when that scene is first shown. Also, didn't Arthur's revival happen right after the DK's death? As soon as the skies cleared after the destruction of the Commandments, Bartra declared that there would be a celebration that day. The Chaos stuff happened when Merlin teleported the Sins away during that party. Cath was dealt with by evening and Arthur met Nanashi in Camelot at night, presumably right after that.

The way I see it, when you account for Donny's words about Camelot and Ardbeg's encounter with Arthur, the only explanation that fits is that Arthur turned evil pretty much right after obtaining his powers. It would take some days or weeks for everyone to learn about the end of the holy war, which resulted in some random demons attacking Ardbeg's village even though their king was already dead. It doesn't really make sense for there to have been some separate event that made Arthur become evil, because what could possibly be worse than the demons almost killing him and then wiping out his kingdom? Furthermore, I don't think Arthur became evil because of some sort of an incident with the other clans to begin with. Remember that he doesn't just want the other clans gone now, he's also started torturing his own subordinates. That's completely out of character for him and there's no reason why a bad experience with the non-human clans would make him behave like this towards his fellow humans. There's got to be some other explanation. When Arthur started torturing Ironside, his eyes suddenly turned black, which also happened when he first obtained his Chaos powers and attacked Meliodas in a rage. I think a loss of control is the actual reason behind Arthur turning evil, not some kind of a dispute that soured his opinion of the other clans.

As for the movie, the only real scene with Arthur involves him placing rocks as grave markers in the ruins of Camelot. He gives a speech while crying just as he is interrupted by some mind controlled fairies and giants. In a brief post-credits scene Arthur is still standing in that same spot and we see a couple of skulls, which I think is meant to imply that he killed them. No idea why there weren't any other remains though.
 

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When Lancelot said that Camelot still exists, he also said "you can't get there by normal means", which suggests that he was talking about the weird castle floating in space that appeared in that same chapter. Donny's not wrong, it's just that the general public only knows about the physical Camelot which indeed no longer exists. He does mention that Arthur is said to be in hiding, but normal people have no way of knowing about the existence of some kind of a separate dimension. The destruction of Camelot that Donny is referring to was the Demon King wiping out the kingdom, and that timeline also fits with some demons attacking Ardbeg's village. There's no way that incident happened 2 years after the DK's defeat because Ardbeg is specifically talking about the holy war when that scene is first shown. Also, didn't Arthur's revival happen right after the DK's death? As soon as the skies cleared after the destruction of the Commandments, Bartra declared that there would be a celebration that day. The Chaos stuff happened when Merlin teleported the Sins away during that party. Cath was dealt with by evening and Arthur met Nanashi in Camelot at night, presumably right after that.

The way I see it, when you account for Donny's words about Camelot and Ardbeg's encounter with Arthur, the only explanation that fits is that Arthur turned evil pretty much right after obtaining his powers. It would take some days or weeks for everyone to learn about the end of the holy war, which resulted in some random demons attacking Ardbeg's village even though their king was already dead. It doesn't really make sense for there to have been some separate event that made Arthur become evil, because what could possibly be worse than the demons almost killing him and then wiping out his kingdom? Furthermore, I don't think Arthur became evil because of some sort of an incident with the other clans to begin with. Remember that he doesn't just want the other clans gone now, he's also started torturing his own subordinates. That's completely out of character for him and there's no reason why a bad experience with the non-human clans would make him behave like this towards his fellow humans. There's got to be some other explanation. When Arthur started torturing Ironside, his eyes suddenly turned black, which also happened when he first obtained his Chaos powers and attacked Meliodas in a rage. I think a loss of control is the actual reason behind Arthur turning evil, not some kind of a dispute that soured his opinion of the other clans.
The demons were shown automatically retreating/leaving upon the defeat of the Demon King in Meliodas' body, likely because they were being made to fight under magical orders. And while it's possible that there were demons still running around, between the glimpses of Britannia we saw and character comments about things be too peaceful, it seem really unlikely that such assaults were still raging weeks later with no mention. Arthur was revived after the defeat of the Demon King in Zeldris' body, which was some while after his first defeat and the demons leaving. In fairness, Ardbeg would be wrong regardless in referring to the attack as during the Holy War, since the Holy War was over a single day and only known to those in Liones. As for the attack itself, I'm of the opinion that it was a false flag, as we've already seen Arthur employing monstrous familiars and such. Chaos is where all the monsters were born from.

I don't believe that there was some event that made Arthur evil. I personally believe that it's Chaos using Arthur's body. And what I'm thinking is that some kind of incident happen sixteen years ago, perhaps such as Meliodas believing Arthur was being corrupted and attempting to stop it like he promised to do, which lead to Camelot and Liones coming into conflict. Arthur lost and moved Camelot from the world. I also think this is the "holy war" being referred, since the previous one only took place over a single day. Arthur having a change in personality and being more "cruel", would fit with the idea of his knights like Ironside "betraying" him yet being devoted to the current him - they betrayed the original ideals Arthur was working towards. It would also explain his reasoning for being against the other races, they betrayed Chaos and/or were failures, whereas humans were it's greatest creation.
 

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Lancelot's Shining Road doesn't only share its name with his counterpart's signature move from Rising Impact, but also looks and works almost the same:


Here's how Tristan's Falling Star appeared in Rising Impact:


So it's safe to assume that one of MnY's Tristan attacks will be a giant star falling from above. This can also explain his "fiery" appearance in ch.5
 
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So it's safe to assume that one of MnY's Tristan attacks will be a giant star falling from above.
I think Falling Star is the attack we see him use in the movie trailer. It involves 7 small stars instead of just a single big one, presumably as a reference to the Sins. The very last line of dialogue in NNT is Tristan saying that he wants to be one of the Seven Deadly Sins, so I could definitely see him creating an attack in their honor. It would also mean that the first special attack we've seen Tristan use is his signature move, just like with Lancelot.

The demons were shown automatically retreating/leaving upon the defeat of the Demon King in Meliodas' body, likely because they were being made to fight under magical orders. And while it's possible that there were demons still running around, between the glimpses of Britannia we saw and character comments about things be too peaceful, it seem really unlikely that such assaults were still raging weeks later with no mention. Arthur was revived after the defeat of the Demon King in Zeldris' body, which was some while after his first defeat and the demons leaving. In fairness, Ardbeg would be wrong regardless in referring to the attack as during the Holy War, since the Holy War was over a single day and only known to those in Liones. As for the attack itself, I'm of the opinion that it was a false flag, as we've already seen Arthur employing monstrous familiars and such. Chaos is where all the monsters were born from.

I don't believe that there was some event that made Arthur evil. I personally believe that it's Chaos using Arthur's body. And what I'm thinking is that some kind of incident happen sixteen years ago, perhaps such as Meliodas believing Arthur was being corrupted and attempting to stop it like he promised to do, which lead to Camelot and Liones coming into conflict. Arthur lost and moved Camelot from the world. I also think this is the "holy war" being referred, since the previous one only took place over a single day. Arthur having a change in personality and being more "cruel", would fit with the idea of his knights like Ironside "betraying" him yet being devoted to the current him - they betrayed the original ideals Arthur was working towards. It would also explain his reasoning for being against the other races, they betrayed Chaos and/or were failures, whereas humans were it's greatest creation.
I'm not so sure about the demons being made to fight under magical orders, since we just saw a village of demons that had apparently just refused to participate in the war. Some of them appear to have simply been evil, like the random red demon in Ban's side story that decided to burn down the Fairy King's Forest one day. I don't think the holy war being over in a day is really that meaningful here. That was the formal length of the war, but the lead up to it lasted for over a month and included the Ten Commandments wiping out villages, attacking Liones and taking control of Camelot. If you lost a loved one during that time, you'd probably just say it happened during the holy war, because it was part of the same conflict against the demons. It's not impossible for there to have been some trickery involved in the attack on Ardbeg's village, but it seems like an unnecessary twist when we know that the demons have already done things that would cause humans to hate them.

We've been told that the event that led to the demise of Camelot was the holy war against the demons, not a holy war against Liones. In fact we've never even heard about a holy war against Liones taking place, which wouldn't make much sense anyway since the holy wars involve the 5 major clans. Even the original holy war 3000 years ago only begun after the goddesses allied with the fairies, giants and humans, despite the fact that the demons and goddesses had already been fighting each other long before that. Camelot was also specifically wiped out in a single attack by the leader of the demons, which can only describe the second holy war, unless you believe Zeldris somehow showed up to wipe out the kingdom again with a new move. According to Donny, Arthur and his knights simply went into hiding after the destruction of Camelot instead of trying to rebuild it, and that's supported by Arthur turning the kingdom into a graveyard in the movie. It's hard to believe that Camelot would have been rebuilt only for it to disappear after some other conflict that people just forgot about. There are some other problems too, like how would Arthur and Merlin even lose to the forces of Liones in the first place? Merlin's got absurd hax and Arthur is apparently 10 times stronger than Meliodas back when he still had his demon king form.

Overall, events like the reconstruction of Camelot and another war taking place right after the last one don't really seem to fit the information we've been given so far. These ideas are a very complicated way to explain such relatively minor oddities as a date being off by 2 years and Arthur appearing to Ardbeg at such a convenient time. Even if there were some kind of shenanigans involved, you could probably accomplish the same thing with less convoluted twists as well, such as memory manipulation causing minor confusion with the timeline. Wouldn't be the first time Nakaba used a plot point like that. I agree that knights like Ironside were involved with Arthur's corruption, but I see their role as being more direct. From a narrative point of view, Percival is likely going to be responsible for snapping Arthur out of his current state of mind, but he's set up to fight Ironside instead of Arthur. It follows that Ironside's defeat has to somehow contribute to Arthur seeing the light, so they might be actively keeping Arthur in this condition.
 

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Lancelot's Shining Road doesn't only share its name with his counterpart's signature move from Rising Impact, but also looks and works almost the same:


Here's how Tristan's Falling Star appeared in Rising Impact:


So it's safe to assume that one of MnY's Tristan attacks will be a giant star falling from above. This can also explain his "fiery" appearance in ch.5
What's Gawain's special????
 

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I think Falling Star is the attack we see him use in the movie trailer. It involves 7 small stars instead of just a single big one, presumably as a reference to the Sins. The very last line of dialogue in NNT is Tristan saying that he wants to be one of the Seven Deadly Sins, so I could definitely see him creating an attack in their honor. It would also mean that the first special attack we've seen Tristan use is his signature move, just like with Lancelot.
I reckon It depends on style and the conditions of use. We've seen Lancelot (Sin) using multiple "Shining Road(s)" simultaneously at Sistana and they were relatively small (barely house-sized) because he had many targets. But in the recent chapter, he used a single, but gigantic Shining Road to pulverize Fiddich & Sleipnir. Tristan too used 7 of them because he was targeting an army, not a single enemy.



By the same token, we've seen Escanor emitting multiple, relatively small "suns" (which are technically stars) using Crazy Prominence. And later on Mael used Greatest Sun which is a single, gigantic Sun.

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What's Gawain's special????
I think it is called "Rising Impact" and it is basically hitting the ball with great force to reach distant points.
 
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I reckon It depends on style and the conditions of use. We've seen Lancelot (Sin) using multiple "Shining Road(s)" simultaneously at Sistana and they were relatively small (barely house-sized) because he had many targets. But in the recent chapter, he used a single, but gigantic Shining Road to pulverize Fiddich & Sleipnir. Tristan too used 7 of them because he was targeting an army, not a single enemy.



By the same token, we've seen Escanor emitting multiple, relatively small "suns" (which are technically stars) using Crazy Prominence. And later on Mael used Greatest Sun which is a single, gigantic Sun.

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I think it is called "Rising Impact" and it is basically hitting the ball with great force to reach distant points.
Alright so i don't think these guys actually have the 4 graces either lance Or tristan Or percival(gawain definitely having it) but yeah definitely these attacks and powers might have inspiration taken from the graces of flash and sunshine

So basically if taken into consideration in this series, gawain's attack might simply be strong punches that throw opponents away to vast distances

I do remember that last chapter only that I've read where it's said Gawain and Lancelot being rivals and Gawain having infinite power of sun, and then later Tristan being said to be the strongest knight and all, but the thing with that is, there they were working for and under King Arthur
 

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Let's hope Lancelot uses some of the power he should have from Elaine, fairy magic is so crucially underdeveloped outside of the spirit spears.

I don't think Nanashi is related to Elizabeth at all.
He's an archangel, most likely.
 
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