Title of next chapter: Meliodas and Percival
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The way I look at it, both the Commandments and Graces make the holder immune to the effect of the curses, presumably due to them holding a portion of those gods' power. With Graces this works across the board and with the Commandments this works for everything for except each Commandment's respective curse. Why would the Graces be able to resist every curse and the Commandments every curse but one, if they both represent the same thing? To me this suggests that each Commandment was deliberately designed to keep the holder vulnerable to its curse, which fits well with the idea that the Demon King was using them to mess with his subjects, or perhaps to test their loyalty or something. I don't know if we'll ever get an actual answer to the question though.I understand it. However, when we consider the abilities of the Commandments, we must take into account the fact that vulnerability to the Commandments is their natural property, while immunity from them is an acquired property. That is, literally, the Commandment itself, when absorbed by someone, does not give vulnerability to it, everyone is ALREADY vulnerable to its action by default. It gives immunity. Here, it would be more logical to assume that the Demon King originally did not intend to give a specific demon from the commandment squad more than one Commandment. At the same time, from the information in the manga, the only logical conclusion would be that two or more Commandments will simply block the vulnerabilities to each other. Well, that is, what reason to believe that if Piety and Truth give immunity to each other in different characters, they will lose this property in one?
It's not always reliable so take it with a grain of salt, but Deepl translates those as:For the magic abilities, it is worth noting that the three names that appeared on bottles in NnT each have two names in Rising Impact. (Gawain is not a confirmed character and a Knight of Apocalypse in MnYK yet, but he will be one soon enough!)
Lancelot's is called Shining road and also 月の導き.
Tristan's is called Falling Star and also 風の流星群.
Gawain's is called Rising Impact and also 太陽の光跡.
The movie establishes that the demons and goddesses had always been fighting each other, because the SD and the DK saw it as a way to maintain balance in the world. Apparently this was something they were born to do, which is presumably related to why Chaos created them. The SD refers to this as the Holy War, which could be seen as a retcon. It's also debatable whether their desire to keep the conflict going in perpetuity contradicts the fact that the goddesses eventually got desperate and triggered the COED, especially since that involved Gowther manipulating things to put an end to the war.As I haven't seen the movie, are you saying it retcons what the manga showed as what triggered it - Meliodas switching sides? It's true that we were told the two races were basically always at odds, but the handful of glimpses we were given of their conflict nearly all had the goddesses as the offensive party - Rou and his his group Betraying Stigma due to either village being wiped outr just for saving a demon, Derieri's hatred because of them taking hostages and killing her sister, and the killing of the real Gowther's lover. The demons may be bad, but based on what we were shown, they were pushed towards that due to situations. And not sure how dependable the other races siding with the goddesses is when we know they're big on mental manipulation.
The people captured were mainly those whom had fallen under Piety's mind control, which is why Merlin had to trick Zeldris into deactivating the curse. It's hard to say how the number of people captured would compare to that of the people living in hiding, especially when factoring in that the number of people on the surface also included people from Liones that fell under Piety during the demons' attack on Liones. This is further complicated by the fact that Nakaba never drew a wide shot accurately showing the number of people. The panels he did draw showed a few dozen people on the surface, a couple dozen underground and about a dozen that Nanashi had tried to save either successfully or unsuccessfully. It's also worth noting that the number of captured people was constantly decreasing during the occupation of Camelot. In chapter 234 Orlondi says "the demons are preying on all the brainwashed humans and sacrificing them in order to break the goddess' seal." The demons occupied Camelot for over a month, so who knows how many people were killed before the Sins even got there. And yeah, it makes sense that Arthur would be cautious of Meliodas and I also think there could be some truth to Chaos being largely a power of creation rather than that of destruction.I would've assumed the number underground would have been less then those captured, which should have been quite a lot since it was Zeldris and his commandment that captured them. And I was under the impression that those underground were saved by Nanashi, or at the very less most of them. Remember that despite it's power, Chaos still got sealed by it's creations. So I don't think it's strange that as powerful as he is, Arthur would still be cautious, especially if it's as I believe and Chaos can't directly destroy things.
It was never elaborated on so it's hard to say what exactly happened. All we know is that the alliance between Liones and the goddesses was formed at night and that by the time the battle started the next day, the giants and fairies had not only managed to gather their forces but also travel to the battlefield somewhere between Liones and Camelot, a distance of at least 100 miles from both Megadozer and the Fairy King's Forest. As for Talisker, you could take it that way, but to me "raze the earth" sounds more like Talisker just wanted Ordo to destroy the Gorge to prevent the fairies and giants from ever inhabiting it again. This kind of a less violent approach is consistent with his initial attempt to simply get Ordo to stop associating with them. Arthur desiring a land in which the other races don't exist to threaten humanity doesn't conflict with this approach either, because we know that the demons, goddesses and fairies have their own separate realms to live in, and that the giants are buddies with the fairies and could presumably live alongside them in the Fairy Realm. The demons are to be slaughtered, but the fairies and giants can just be forcefully evicted from Britannia. It's worth noting how similar this is to Deathpierce's view on things. He also wanted to build a kingdom exclusively for humans, but most of his hate was directed at the demons and goddesses.I missed that. I suppose it's possible, but that seems unlikely given the timeframe we saw - It doesn't seem like a lot of time past between Ludociel saving Gil and arriving in Liones, since the Sins saving Eli and the citizens happen concurrently, unless you meant Ludociel did it before saving Gil. As for Talisker, I think raze is suppose to mean eliminating them in that context, because Ordo's actions did scare off the fairies and giants, yet Talisker was still upset at them just being chased out and did remark about Arthur's goal being no other races existing to threaten humanity. Ardbeg also mentioned wiping out the other races and returning Britannia to humans.
It's a bit of a stretch to say that the people of Sistana believed Ironside when we only saw a couple of lines of dialogue from them, including one saying "horrid, if it's true" which clearly displays skepticism. It also shouldn't be that difficult to convince people that Camelot was wiped out with only a few survivors when anyone can go visit the giant graveyard where the kingdom used to be. That's pretty strong evidence in support of the claim, especially when every adult in Britannia lived through the Holy War and should have at least a rough idea of what happened back then. As for Camelot's population, it's entirely feasible that almost all of them were killed during the events of NNT. Galand's attack alone leveled about a tenth of the kingdom, then you had the demons conquering it and using the souls of the mind controlled citizens to fuel the opening of the COED(potentially for over a month), and then lastly the DK showed up to vaporize almost everyone who was left behind. I mentioned earlier that Nakaba doesn't really draw scenes with large crowds so it's difficult to judge the numbers accurately, but we only saw the Sins rescuing a few dozen people, which included citizens of Liones, and then Nanashi rescued about a dozen more. For comparison, the graveyard shown in the movie was massive, with at least thousands if not tens of thousands of graves. I'd say Arthur's conflict with Liones is largely because Meliodas is the king in charge of its forces. It was shown in the final chapter that Meliodas is very popular among his subjects, so even sealing him away wouldn't make the kingdom stand down. Destroying them is the only way.I brought up Ironside not merely because we see him lying, but that we were shown him lying to an entire town and having them believe him. If random people can believe that Meliodas and Liones are evil, they can also believe that Camelot was wiped out with only a few survivors. Unless we were misled with the original series, or Camelot's population was far larger then it appeared, there was more then just a few survivors from the previous Holy War. Seems more like the claim of a few survivors is more meant for sympathy then the situation as it was. That being said, the reason I believe that said potential conflict would have involved more then just Arthur and the Sins is that Arthur's goal involves destroying Liones, not merely the Sins, and we have had several comments mentioning Liones itself being in conflict with Arthur and Camelot. I suppose Liones could be a target just because of Meliodas, though we haven't seen characters having trouble calling out the Sins themselves as a threat. And perhaps it is merely due to plot, but Liones doesn't seem to be actively pushing back against Arthur's forces.
As far as we saw, Donny wasn't aware of much of the current situation, unlike Howzer - he knew about Lancelot's secret mission, and according to his own words, that they're in a war against Arthur. He also showed a greater concern about the CoED being used, with Donny seemingly not being aware of what the demons being sealed would mean, meaning he doesn't know what Meliodas is. It would come down to what Howzer actually taught Donny, which given his personality might not have been much, and what Donny would of picked up after leaving.
Maybe he mean not "personal meet, Donny just random brat anyway,,What happened to Dreyfus? He was one of the strongest "normal" Humans.
I expected something more exciting as well. But a private meeting between Percival and Mel like this is nice.
Now that I think about it. Donny not having met Meliodas is weird. Isn't he from Liones too or did I forget something about his backstory?
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Honestly, a part of me was like ''Why can't Lancelot just go see the Elizabeth (Queen) if Meliodas is not there?''Wonder where Elizabeth, normally mel and Eli will have fun together at boar hat,,
Well it's to be expected. 16 years is nothing to a Demon.I was really hoping for a dramatic change in Meliodas' appearance, but all I got was a stupid striped tie.
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Could be Tristan. Based on what we know about him, like Lancelot, he’s not the biggest fan of Meliodas being a boob groping alcoholic. I’m also assuming that the two are close and Nakaba did say that this group would join up faster iirc so it’s possible we get knight number 3 sooner rather than laterWhile Percival and Mel are chatting I wonder who Lancelot and co are going to meet. If they want to kill time I guess they aren't going to enter in the castle so no Elizabeth.