Discussion Luffy's Growth Rate & Stats

[Sachsenhesse]

Man you must be a jumpropemaster by all this jumping to conclusions.

And no:

Its a trollthread because you bring in other characters and even try to start a sanji vs. zoro debate, which is... in this forum... always bait.

 

[BlackTiger]

Man you must be a jumpropemaster by all this jumping to conclusions.

And no:

Its a trollthread because you bring in other characters and even try to start a sanji vs. zoro debate, which is... in this forum... always bait.

If you cannot answer my question because it will destroy your powercreep argument then no need to force yourself to post here. Zoro is the only character I can bring for powercreep argument since Zoro is always relative to Sanji in One Piece manga. It's different with Luffy and Doflamingo. Luffy was weaker than him pre TS but he's stronger than him post TS whereas Sanji and Zoro are always relative in strength with Zoro is a bit above him. Zoro is also the only character who went all out before he met Sanji who is on his tier since by your argument, going all out=powercreep. So it's not a troll thread..

 

[Fox666]

Brook has faster running speed not combat speed.

Yes he does

Check out the Zoro and Ryuma fight. Brook can keep track of their movements, but is shocked by the power behind their attacks.

 

[john ellis]

@BlackTiger there is clear evidence aCoC makes your more durable. One look at aCoC users the yonko. Two the second BM loses her will she becomes vurable. No this just isn't CoA clearly to hurt a aCoC user you need a will that can challenge theres or a method to break there will to turn off there aCoC. One piece is very much about out "willing" your opponents and no1 has beater "will's" then CoC users.

 

[Fox666]

@BlackTiger there is clear evidence aCoC makes your more durable. One look at aCoC users the yonko. Two the second BM loses her will she becomes vurable. No this just isn't CoA clearly to hurt a aCoC user you need a will that can challenge theres or a method to break there will to turn off there aCoC. One piece is very much about out "willing" your opponents and no1 has beater "will's" then CoC users.

Big Mom was durable even as a child.

It's not explained how she looses her invulnerability under stress... but this is a world which people can produce noodle from their nostrils, so that's not something unusual for a Human body to do.

 

[BlackTiger]

Yes he does

Check out the Zoro and Ryuma fight. Brook can keep track of their movements, but is shocked by the power behind their attacks.

I saw it he got blitzed. Zoro never once got blitzed like this by Ryuma. Running speed/combat speed. Do you think Brook could dodge Zoro and counter attack him like Carrot did?

@BlackTiger there is clear evidence aCoC makes your more durable. One look at aCoC users the yonko. Two the second BM loses her will she becomes vurable. No this just isn't CoA clearly to hurt a aCoC user you need a will that can challenge theres or a method to break there will to turn off there aCoC. One piece is very much about out "willing" your opponents and no1 has beater "will's" then CoC users.

Didn't Whitebeard use observation haki while he was sleeping? Whitebeard lost his will when he slept but his observation haki was still working. And even Big Mom in her durable mode still unleashed a big amount of conqueror haki so she had still will.

Conqueror coating users Kaido and Big Mom are durable because their bodies were tough since they were born. It has nothing to do with them unlocking conqueror coating.

Big Mom in her Olin mode (cannot use armament or observation haki) could still tank Queen's attack and she only felt asleep.