American Politics

[M3J]

really?
She called the father of a fallen US-veteran an 'angry muslim'?
That's low, even for republican standards.

Yes. Ann Coulter is a horrible, horrible person. She is also further proof how bad conservatives are, and I wish nothing but horrible things to her.

 

[Philia]

Yes. Ann Coulter is a horrible, horrible person. She is also further proof how bad conservatives are, and I wish nothing but horrible things to her.

She wants people to buy her books. These tweets are a way to get publicity.

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Apparently Hillary leading in polls again

 

[shionoro]

The times in which trump 'led' the polls were blown way out of proportion, too.
He won by a low margin in like 2-3 polls, while clinton still led in most.
There was never a time in which, looking at the broad picture 'polls' really saw trump ahead.

A good website to check is this one:

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

It accounts for outliers and gives you the broad picture of this race.

 

[M3J]

But Huffington Post is liberal!

 

[xi0]

Yes. Ann Coulter is a horrible, horrible person. She is also further proof how bad conservatives are, and I wish nothing but horrible things to her.

Wtf? She's one person dude. Ann Coulter is just an attention-whoring troll trying to sell books. Who honestly gives a shit what she says about anything?

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I mean, she's basically Milo Yiannopoulos before there was a Milo Yiannopoulos. The main difference being that even Milo says things that makes sense sometimes. Coulter makes a living off of being a self-loathing contrarian. People give her airtime in order to drum up controversy and attention, but nothing else.

 

[M3J]

I'm pretty sure a lot of conservatives agree with her. BEsides, if few terrorists claiming to be Muslims can represent the entire group, why can't few conservatives like Colter represent the entire group?

 

[xi0]

I'm pretty sure a lot of conservatives agree with her. BEsides, if few terrorists claiming to be Muslims can represent the entire group, why can't few conservatives like Colter represent the entire group?

Not really, not many in the mainstream do anymore anyways. She's a sideshow act at this point.

But wtf is this logic honestly? Do you really think about things like this in such a binary way?

 

[M3J]

I'm basing it off on thousands of conservatives I've seen, listened to, and read.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

Eh, I don't like to group conservatives over an ableist bitch's comments; just sounds unfair if you ask me (and this is coming from a Muslim).

3-4 more months and the Election is right around the corner (or I should say the demise of the nation); 5 more months and 2016 goes behind (I do hope 2017 becomes a decent year).
Hopefully, by the time that happens, I can only hope that this controversial election lessens ups by a margin (which I doubt that's the case).

 

[shionoro]

Actually this further fuels the 'trump is a plant by hillary' theory.

I mean, clinton presents this muslim father whose son died as a vet.
That's one thing republicans can agree with: vets have honour and should always be respected.

And trump does not let one daypass to badmouth the vet's father. I mean, anyone with a brain (and i do suspect trump is not as foolish as he acts) would know that this does not ring righ with a big part of the republican voters.
But he still did it.

Even if trump is actually trying to win the election, he has to be the best person ever at screwing himself over.

 

[Philia]

Actually this further fuels the 'trump is a plant by hillary' theory.

I mean, clinton presents this muslim father whose son died as a vet.
That's one thing republicans can agree with: vets have honour and should always be respected.

And trump does not let one daypass to badmouth the vet's father. I mean, anyone with a brain (and i do suspect trump is not as foolish as he acts) would know that this does not ring righ with a big part of the republican voters.
But he still did it.

Even if trump is actually trying to win the election, he has to be the best person ever at screwing himself over.

Trumps problem is his own mouth while Hillary's problem is her own record.

Apparently Pence tried to clean up Trump's mess and blamed Hillary & Obama for Iraq War.
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/mi...han-family-mess-reaffirms-muslim-ban-instead/
What did Obama do to trigger Iraq war? Why not blame Bush administration? Hillary has her fault in voting for Iraq war, but lions share of the blame has to go to Bush administration.

 

[xi0]

What did Obama do to trigger Iraq war? Why not blame Bush administration? Hillary has her fault in voting for Iraq war, but lions share of the blame has to go to Bush administration.

He didn't say Obama had anything to do with the War in Iraq, he blamed the rise of ISIL on Obama and Clinton. This is just classic politicking - trying any means possible to attach disasters to political opponents. Every conservative praised the Mission Accomplished bullshit pulled by GWB and was for reducing troop numbers in both Aghanistan and Iraq right up until Obama took office.

 

[M3J]

He didn't say Obama had anything to do with the War in Iraq, he blamed the rise of ISIL on Obama and Clinton. This is just classic politicking - trying any means possible to attach disasters to political opponents. Every conservative praised the Mission Accomplished bullshit pulled by GWB and was for reducing troop numbers in both Aghanistan and Iraq right up until Obama took office.

you conservative bastard, why can't you just blame Obama! He's black, so he's clearly unfit to be a politician!


#TeamConservative

 

[xi0]

you conservative bastard, why can't you just blame Obama! He's black, so he's clearly unfit to be a politician!


#TeamConservative

Well, there's something to be said about what a president can take blame for and be praised for in regards to their time in office. It always happens, regardless of any real-world nuance to such events/issues.

Even people outside of the GOP insist that Ronald Reagan singlehandedly brought down the Berlin Wall, ended the Cold War, got Iran to release the hostages, etc...Then you have someone like Jimmy Carter who is probably one of the morally-sound men who've ever held the office, but most would insist his was a terrible presidency, and that someone like Reagan "solved" all of the countries woes the moment he was sworn in.

 

[M3J]

Well, there's something to be said about what a president can take blame for and be praised for in regards to their time in office. It always happens, regardless of any real-world nuance to such events/issues.

Even people outside of the GOP insist that Ronald Reagan singlehandedly brought down the Berlin Wall, ended the Cold War, got Iran to release the hostages, etc...Then you have someone like Jimmy Carter who is probably one of the morally-sound men who've ever held the office, but most would insist his was a terrible presidency, and that someone like Reagan "solved" all of the countries woes the moment he was sworn in.

I was mocking Obama haters and insinuating that the opposition comes more from him being black than him being a democrat. Makes me wonder if similar would happen to Hillary just because she's a woman.

I thought Reagan did backdoor dealing with Iran to release the hostages, no? A source says Jimmy Carter did most of the work, but I remember reading in the textbook that Reagan was criticized for not letting anyone know. But I guess that could be due to washing of history.

 

[Philia]

Trump suspects voting fraud in the general election.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...he-devil-and-suggests-election-will-be-rigged

 

[shionoro]

Just wanted to post that one.
It is a conga line between him being a plant and him being genuinely insane, really.

I mean, people who say THIS:

"He also promised a “bloodbath” if the Democrats attempted to “steal” the election."

are generally people have to be either of the two, but not rational minds opting to be president.

 

[kkck]

Right, so we are supposed to believe from the Muppet colored, hero insulting moron that hillary is a witch. Sure, if a poll suggests he is winning somewhere and then he looses the whole thing must be rigged. Because polls are never wrong and they are representative this early!!!!1! I used to think there was a shred of thought behind what trump did but seeing the past week it is hard to imagine he has but scant braincells to work with. It is still terrifying that a man as overtly stupid and ignorant as this even has a chance of winning the elections. I wonder how much trump can push things until the republican party realizes it at some point had integrity and principles and simply stops backing down this guy. It was baffling enough that a republican presidential candidate would be so friendly to US enemies and even encourage russian intrusions at the US. But now even US fallen heroes get attacked?

 

[shionoro]

Right, so we are supposed to believe from the Muppet colored, hero insulting moron that hillary is a witch. Sure, if a poll suggests he is winning somewhere and then he looses the whole thing must be rigged. Because polls are never wrong and they are representative this early!!!!1! I used to think there was a shred of thought behind what trump did but seeing the past week it is hard to imagine he has but scant braincells to work with. It is still terrifying that a man as overtly stupid and ignorant as this even has a chance of winning the elections. I wonder how much trump can push things until the republican party realizes it at some point had integrity and principles and simply stops backing down this guy. It was baffling enough that a republican presidential candidate would be so friendly to US enemies and even encourage russian intrusions at the US. But now even US fallen heroes get attacked?

Wait until he attacks lincoln as a communist for freeing the slaves or something like that
This HAS to be deliberate. I don't want to live in a world with someone being so incredibly stupid and tasteless.
I also don't want to live in a world in which he can be the presidential nominee in a big party of a powerful modern nation, but that is a truth i will have to accept.

 

[kkck]

Wait until he attacks lincoln as a communist for freeing the slaves or something like that
This HAS to be deliberate. I don't want to live in a world with someone being so incredibly stupid and tasteless.
I also don't want to live in a world in which he can be the presidential nominee in a big party of a powerful modern nation, but that is a truth i will have to accept.

I can't fathom this being deliberate to be honest. It is way too stupid.... What would even be the point? Are you telling me you genuinely believe that trump gave this a serious thought and concluded that attacking this family in the same way he attacks everything else was the course of action that would get him the sort of attention he wants? That cannot plausibly be a thing. The most he could have thought it "Welp, there is no such thing as bad press" but event then this is too much. He has half the party being apologetical of him at this point... Unfortunately we do live in a world where someone this objectively stupid gets to be a presidential nominee. It wouldn't even be the first time. Just look at this quotes about or from good old reagan:

"Poor dear, there's nothing between his ears."
--British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher

"an amiable dunce"
--Clark Clifford (former Defense Secretary)

"President Reagan doesn't always check the facts before he makes statements, and the press accepts this as kind of amusing."
--former president Jimmy Carter, March 6, 1984

"His errors glide past unchallenged. At one point...he alleged that almost half the population gets a free meal from the government each day. No one told him he was crazy. The general message of the American press is that, yes, while it is perfectly true that the emperor has no clothes, nudity is actually very acceptable this year."
--Simon Hoggart, in The Observer (London), 1986

"Growing and decaying vegetation in this land are responsible for 93 percent of the oxides of nitrogen."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Los Angeles Times, October 9, 1980. (According to Dr. Michael Oppenheimer of the Environmental Defense Fund, industrial sources are responsible for at least 65 percent and possibly as much as 90 percent of the oxides of nitrogen in the U.S.)

"Trains are not any more energy efficient than the average automobile, with both getting about 48 passenger miles to the gallon."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Chicago Tribune, May 10, 1980. (The U.S. Department of Transportation calculates that a 14-car train traveling at 80 miles per hour gets 400 passenger miles to the gallon. A 1980 auto carrying an average of 2.2 people gets 42.6 passenger miles to the gallon.)

At least for me it was hard not to find reagan's own idiocy and complete disregard for, well, facts and knowledge oddly familiar considering trump. So not only there is area possibility of trump winning this, which is terrifying, but there is also a chance that the republican party might even like it if he does the stuff he wants to do. And then will go on to basically "edit" the parts they don't like about his record as they did with reagan. Of course, this is the age of the internet and it would be much harder to pull of than before.