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But are there enough of the alternatives to go around?

What they can do though is acknowledge that there's a risk of blood clot, but the risk is much lower than the risk from taking birth control or I believe contracting covid. Either way, people are still going to be suspicious.
Further investigate the incidents of clots, what it's related to, etc....? They're doing it out of an abundance of caution.
 

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Further investigate the incidents of clots, what it's related to, etc....? They're doing it out of an abundance of caution.
I dont think they have health statistics enough between the infected vs the uninfected to correlate the issue with the vaccine. But they are in a great position with Pfizer and Moderna to replace all JnJ ones, so caution becomes extremely important.
 

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I dont think they have health statistics enough between the infected vs the uninfected to correlate the issue with the vaccine. But they are in a great position with Pfizer and Moderna to replace all JnJ ones, so caution becomes extremely important.
I think it would have been paused either way, it's the best public health choice. Especially with the same concerns existing for the EU vaccine.
 

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Conspiracy theories.

I guess these will be debunked shortly?

Don't know what the scientific aspect is.

Seeing indications of this being true btw.



 
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Don't know what the scientific aspect is.

Seeing indications of this being true btw.



The tweet says this is happening after being AROUND people who were vaccinated, not as a side effect of being vaccinated themselves. Very "weird vibes" indeed...
 

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The tweet says this is happening after being AROUND people who were vaccinated, not as a side effect of being vaccinated themselves. Very "weird vibes" indeed...

It appears to affect those who receive the vaccine. And those who are in close physical proximity to those who were vaccinated.

This could be an easier to accept source:


My stance on COVID vaccines is.

I would rather be kicked in the balls(by an unathletic woman), than take an untested vaccine that only lasts 6 months. Intended to immunize against an illness that is dangerous to less than 0.3% of the population.

The cure is worse than the disease.


:invalid

I am admittedly biased on this.
 

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It appears to affect those who receive the vaccine. And those who are in close physical proximity to those who were vaccinated.
The latter isn't mentioned anywhere in that article though. Vaccine "shedding" is what they call something like this, but it doesn't happen unless it's older technology that includes live virus.
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Irregular menstrual cycles have also been seen in women who've had covid. So the differentiation between this symptom from the vaccine and the actual infection doesn't seem concrete yet.
 

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I think one issue when it comes to women's health is that they don't often care about women, so even if the vaccine changing women's menstrual cycle wasn't possibly due to covid's mRNA or whatever the hell it is, they'd probably not do much with it.
 

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I think one issue when it comes to women's health is that they don't often care about women, so even if the vaccine changing women's menstrual cycle wasn't possibly due to covid's mRNA or whatever the hell it is, they'd probably not do much with it.
I'm not sure if it's about them not "caring", the issue is just more multifaceted than having a headache or fever. If you say 15% of menstruating people who take a particular vaccine may have irregular periods, and then 15% of the people in trials are menstruating, and then you have to factor in when they're having their periods, the side effect might not present itself until you're dealing with millions of people taking the vaccine versus a few thousand.
 

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I'm not sure if it's about them not "caring", the issue is just more multifaceted than having a headache or fever. If you say 15% of menstruating people who take a particular vaccine may have irregular periods, and then 15% of the people in trials are menstruating, and then you have to factor in when they're having their periods, the side effect might not present itself until you're dealing with millions of people taking the vaccine versus a few thousand.
but they can do the math and figure it out. I'm just going by reports and articles I've seen when it comes to women's care, like how doctors treat women in tremendous abdomen pain.
 

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but they can do the math and figure it out. I'm just going by reports and articles I've seen when it comes to women's care, like how doctors treat women in tremendous abdomen pain.
But in a clinical trial setting, there are a large amount of people reporting different symptoms.

Again, this is oversimplification and for the sake of argument, but if ~20% of people who had their period after receiving the vaccine report irregularities, but ~20% of those in the control group report the same thing, it's not going to be listed as a potential side effect. That doesn't invalidate it being the cause, but if a symptom doesn't present itself in a meaningful way in contrast to those receiving placebo, it's not going to get attention. Then you add in the fact that there were people in the trial that likely had covid, the picture could be even less clear.
 
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Forty-six percent said they like how Biden conducts himself in the job, compared to 27 percent who don't, and 44 percent of respondents said they believe Biden has changed the tone of political debate for the better, compared to 29 percent who said he's made it worse.

Imagine thinking that the tone of political debate is currently worse because the president hasn't yet dog-whistled to white supremacists, downplayed a pandemic, or stoked the flames of stupidity amongst conspiracy theorists.
 

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Chauvin is charged guilty, which is great. Now what'd be even better is that all killer cops are charged the same as well, and the best case would be abolishment of cops.
 

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I don't necessarily agree with this.

But applaud the effort.


:toc
 

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Chauvin is charged guilty, which is great. Now what'd be even better is that all killer cops are charged the same as well, and the best case would be abolishment of cops.
I think we need more reform with the police as well, like rewarding those who speak against their own, better training, laws that prosecute these cops even further to the effect that such trails dont need a year to close. its a start and the step in the right direction.




I don't necessarily agree with this.

But applaud the effort.


:toc
why dont you?
 

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As far as I can tell justice was served in this case. The entire defense strategy was to try and cast doubt so that the "beyond reasonable doubt" criteria wasn't met. But with the video alone it's clear what happened.... And heck, tbh based on the video the police was perfectly warranted to beating the crap out of floyd to take him in... But even in this scenario the police went to far and someone died for essentially no reason.
 

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why dont you?

I've seen more emphasis on George Floyd's pornhub career.

And him and Chauvin being co workers than most of what is on that graphic.

Internet is a very strange place.
 

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I think we need more reform with the police as well, like rewarding those who speak against their own, better training, laws that prosecute these cops even further to the effect that such trails dont need a year to close. its a start and the step in the right direction.
that's a horrible suggestion because you can't reform the police force, not when they continue to choose to abuse their power and kill people even during a trial and on the day of a cop's verdict. Who would reward cops who speak up? Ensure they're protected from other cops? Make the risk worth it when so many cops and cop apologists could ruin the whistleblower's life or the family's?

ABolishing cops is a much better path because cops are mostly useless.
 
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